Anyone else feeling a bit of a noob?

[=BKHZ=Furbs]

I know i havnt been flying that much the last year, but still. The crosswind landing is making me feel a bit of a noob, feels like learning to fly all over again and im loving it.

[=38=Tatarenko]

Yep! I really like that.

 

This morning I crashed 5 times before landing the crosswind mission twice.

[Volkoff]

I know i havnt been flying that much the last year, but still. The crosswind landing is making me feel a bit of a noob, feels like learning to fly all over again and im loving it.

 

Any and all landings make me feel like a noob. When landing, I dribble my LaGG-3 down the runway like a basketball. I need some serious remedial help with landings. 

 

MJ

 

A picture is worth a thousand words. Here (below) is one of my better landing attempts. 

 

Edited November 20, 2013 by =69.GIAP=MIKHA

[smink1701]

YES.  This game is going to take some time to master which is a good thing.  Seems many were worried about this being a true sim vs arcade and so be careful what you wish for.  

[FuriousMeow]

Four years with RoF has made this relatively painless for me. The biggest noob part were the additional engine controls and how they worked/what does what, but after a few flights I've got them worked out.

[=LD=Hethwill]

Sqadrilla Commander is writting report after report to the high command to justify the breakdown of machines.

 

Yesterday i swear i saw a NKVD commissar arriving at the base...

[limeymcscrote]

I haven't had a landing yet where the plane didn't get broken. I think it will be easier once we're able to trim the planes properly.

[Finkeren]

I'm surprised at how quickly I got past the initial n00bness. I'm by no means a completely safe pilot yet, but neither am I struggling just to do simple maneuvers.

 

It'll propably change, once we get guns and actually have to fight for our virtual lives.

[=BKHZ=Furbs]

Its just that crosswind landing...FFS...prob got it right all the way to engine stop and still on the runway 2 times out of 10 so far.

[71st_AH_Hooves]

My first attempt to take off i felt like a total failure lol. Then i realised my mixture and my prop pitch were not inverted properly. After that getting the torque figured out. I felt less nooby.

[II./JG27_Rich]

I know i havnt been flying that much the last year, but still. The crosswind landing is making me feel a bit of a noob, feels like learning to fly all over again and im loving it.

YES!!! That is the fun of it! Although I'll be out of this Lagg forever and all other Russian aeroplanes once the 109 and other German aircraft come out this has been a total blast. I figger the 109 will be much harder also. I think it will be much nicer in the air but watch out on the landings once you're on the ground  But all the same you have to love those things

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfG9Tn9vm-0&feature=channel_video_title

Edited November 20, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich

[[TWB]Ewertsp]

No problems whatsoever. The crosswind is very consistent so putting the plane down gently isnt that hard. Its demanding, not hard. And I can't make a comparison with dcs p51 due the differences between planes but il2 feels like dcs in general.

[BeastyBaiter]

I don't really have any trouble landing without breaking the plane. Coming from RoF the physics engine is very familiar. The only thing that does give me a bit of trouble is the suspension on the LaGG-3. I think they have the rebound on it set too high, it bounces no matter how gently I touch.  Decent rate 0.1m/s, still kicks me back up 5m.

[JaMz]

I like the way you really have to work on getting it down and its certainly no breeze getting it up and it looking nice either...

 

This is very much missing in sims we have around atm..

 

I cannot wait to get me hands on that 109, hopefully its still on track for next week

[Karost]

I happy to be a noob again

 

Setting 1.5X

First time landing made hard bouncing and end  up with plane upside down. 

Second time try  landing with 3 point  and seem smonth landing I just lose  chance to see stall speed with full flap open when I made 3 point landing.

 

on This week-end I will try to make my first Video for this stuff

[Dutch]

I know i havnt been flying that much the last year.

 

Naaaah, gerraway Furbsy me ole china. Do you mean to say that you've been sitting there making nice screenshots of Rise of Flight, with graphics settings so high you get 3 frames per minute, and now you're doing the same with 'Stalingrad'? Surely not. And all this time you could've been shooting down poor innocent RAF pilots, like me for instance? I just don't believe you mate.

[=BKHZ=Furbs]

LOL Dutch, ive been dipping in and out of CLOD(Shooting down silly spits with my Emil) with the excellent TF patches all year, just not as much as i used to, the same with ROF(single player campaign) but as good as ROF is, WW1 is not really my cup of tea.

This is the first time in a long time, ive got the bug, that feeling again, much like the first time flying the original IL2.

 

Really, really looking forward to my 109F4, though not its ground handling characteristics...lol.

[SYN_Ricky]

I still botch too many landings, feeling like a noob about it

 

Playing CloD gave me a good training on engine management and relying on gauges only (no HUD), so I quickly felt at ease.

 

Now back to those landings

[FlatSpinMan]

Which bit of the noob are you guys feeling? He doesn't mind?

[OBT-Psycho]

yep, giving all my experience as a virtual pilot, with 1000's of hour behind me, some good skill on manoeuvers and landing and all, it took me 4h to manage a "not-so-crappy" landing.

I still bounce a couple of time, but I can walk from my plane, which qualifies as a "Good" landing.

 

Tight turns seems to be tricky though. Everybody is able to slam the stick on the edge and turn, but doing so without ending up as a sitting duck managing to stay in flight close to 230kph is another story.

 

It is the first time in a while that I feel like totally relearn all I thought I knew about flying a warbird. The Messerschmitt will help to compare how hard it is to fly the new version of a wellknown aircraft. I am ready and waiting for it

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 The ground handling of the Bf109 is partially an overblown myth. Pilots were scared poopless with it because when it came to service Luftwaffe had never had such a high performance plane. It took a bit to learn the ropes of it and sure lot of pilots crashed. This I blame on wrong training to it and wrong procedures. This is solely my opinion, but from what I've read from all the German memoirs of pilots it seems the errors were passed on to next pilot group and again. To simplify it VERY much the throttle use was basically the main culprit, they firewalled it too early when there was not enough rudder authority. As a sidenote the Finns who were picking up our brand new Bf109G-2's from Germany in 1943 did not feel the Bf109G was any harder to take-off, fly or land in. 

 

 Nevertheless I am very keenly waiting for the Friedrich I think it will be a challenge as the LagG-3 has been  

[=38=Tatarenko]

I am DREADING any kind of turn fight in the LaGG. I feel after half a turn I'm stuck. I'd so love an I-16 or similar!

 

I feel that with the LaGG it'll be two passes against an enemy then home if we're still in one piece.

[Anatta]

Well, after arriving at home I won't be in one piece anymore for sure. Up, smooth as butter, down, basketball

Edited November 21, 2013 by Anatta

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 You can do allright in a LagG-3 if you use it in it's own turf so to say. That is well below 5km altitude. It seems quite responsive at low to medium altitudes, but higher up the lack of power really starts to show. And it will have more than adequate armament as well. Sure a challenge but speed is life, do not get into a knife fight in it.

[SYN_Ricky]

Which bit of the noob are you guys feeling? He doesn't mind?

 

I won't tell

[SOLIDKREATE]

I think the runway is now completely made of wing panels from my aircraft

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Spektre, didn't they have wood planked runways somewhere At least in memoirs of JG5 pilots they seemed to have runways covered by wood up in Norway...So I think the trick has found it's way to Stalingrad as well 

[FlatSpinMan]

Deltawood, no less, so those runways are extra strong now, thanks to our efforts.

[J4SCrisZeri]

Always. Expecially when I come here

[CPSWolff]

It's been over 50 years since I was in an L-19 in Germany, but starting this game up brought me back. I didn't pilot the plane, I was just the observer. Always wanted to fly, but never had the time due to the demands of my job. Started playing the sims when they first came out, and almost evey sim since, including Black Shark, etc. This is the first time I really had that feeling of Lt. L. Howard was still in the front seat trying to have me barf on my combat boots (and he did several times). Really a great job on this game and looking forwad to every addtition. The bounce on landings does seem a little high, but I'll leave that to the real pilots.

 

Again, thanks for making one of the really old players a young man again.

 

(Only problem I noticed is that I can't use some of the keys on my Razer Naga Epic for plane controls. Has never been a problem on the old IL2 game. Hope that changes as the game evolves.)

Edited November 21, 2013 by CPSWolff

[FuriousMeow]

Wolff,

 

It may be because of Windows, or the mouse's drivers, that some of your mouse buttons aren't recognized, and they may have to be configured as actual keys (like Ctrl-L or Shift-M or T) in order to function. I have a Logitech G700 and only the standard buttons are detectable as buttons (left/right mouse button, scroll wheel, and two side buttons) but it has several buttons that don't work at all in any games unless I define them through the Logitech software suite as keypresses (such as Ctrl-L or Shift-M or T).

 

Could just be my mouse that has these issues, but it's driver related for my mouse for certain because about half the buttons can only be assigned for certain Windows functions or defined by myself as keystroke - or simply do nothing at all.

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

I bask in the Noobness! Its nice to know as you land ..you may not!   Crosswind landing, not so well:

Glad I didn't bend my prop!

 

Edited November 21, 2013 by Blackwolf

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

Sqadrilla Commander is writting report after report to the high command to justify the breakdown of machines.

 

Yesterday i swear i saw a NKVD commissar arriving at the base...

 

...with a truck load of pistol ammo.  He said he wanted to meet the arriving aircraft.  Plan on accidentally strafing his staff car.

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Which bit of the noob are you guys feeling? He doesn't mind?

I just caught this..lol you sick man! Who said its a he? 

[FlatSpinMan]

Welcome to a couple of days ago, Blackwolf. Nice to have you with us.

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Nice to be here

[II./JG27_Rich]

I think the runway is now completely made of wing panels from my aircraft

I think the runway is one big trampoline!!

Edited November 23, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich

[Marrond]

I guess it rather comes down to adaptation skills rather than experience. I'm noob (write War Thunder mouseaim all arround my face) and successfully landed on 1st attempt... without a bounce.

 

The biggest noob part were the additional engine controls and how they worked/what does what, but after a few flights I've got them worked out.

Pretty much this. Is there any guidance yet for different situations in terms of engine management in LaGG3? Also I am the only one who find it rather tough job to destroy the engine with wrong management? I mean I can do it only right after startup with utterly wrong settings (everything the opposite way it should be according to mission briefing) then applying rapidly 100% mixture. Anyone so far managed to jam the engine during any action in air or I were the only one who cared to check that aspect of the Alpha? Edited November 23, 2013 by Marrond

[JV44Rall]

I'm feeling quite noobish. I've flown a number of sims for the last 20 years (does anyone recall Air Warrior on GEnie dial up?), real airplanes the last 7 years and have about 800 hours in Cessnas, Pipers, Beechcraft and a Citabria. In real life, I've bounced more landings than I'll ever admit but have grown to love windy days for the challenge of crosswinds. From my POV, the LAGG crosswind landings kick my butt - too much so. I have much easier time landing a Bonanza in a 15G25 cross wind than the LAGG in the crosswind mission. And although I have absolutely no time in warbirds (I feel very fortunate just to get close to my neighbor's T-34 Mentor once in a while), the current LAGG is too fragile, imho. If gear, wings and empennage would snap off with every hard landing back in 1942, the VVS wouldn't have had enough airworthy aircraft to fight off a large swarm of black flies.

[Phat]

LOL Dutch, ive been dipping in and out of CLOD(Shooting down silly spits with my Emil) with the excellent TF patches all year, just not as much as i used to, the same with ROF(single player campaign) but as good as ROF is, WW1 is not really my cup of tea.

This is the first time in a long time, ive got the bug, that feeling again, much like the first time flying the original IL2.

 

Really, really looking forward to my 109F4, though not its ground handling characteristics...lol.

 

Hi Furbs!  Yes I know that feeling you speak of.  I havent even had a joystick connected to my PC for the first time in almost 15 years since CLOD died an unceremonious death.  (A very deep disappointment that I know everyone felt) I tried to get back into it with the TF patches but it still felt lifeless, soul-less and a waste of time for so many reasons that have been discussed to death.

 

Now this Alpha, which I only got to play around with on keyboard (because stuff is all packed ready for a big house move next week)... it's been like the anticipation of CLOD that we all had, except with the payoff of being much more than I was expecting. (again.. thats only playing on a keyboard!) I cant wait to get this house move over so I can get into it properly next week for round II.