Junkers JU-88

[Pharoah]

I'm in love with this bird - quick, versatile, carries a mean bombload (esp after you unlock extras), has dive brakes, and is quite easy to manage engine-wise (only pitch and engine cowls to manage). From what I understand this was the most versatile a/c in the Luftwaffe in WW2 ie. it did level bombing, dive bombing, torpedo bombing (pls 1C gimme torps!!), recon, etc plus acted as a night fighter against the bomber stream. Apparently that 20mm cannon in the nose can be used for ground attack too (haven't unlocked it yet).

 

A good example was on a mission last night on the WoL server...I had everything set up to drop my ordnance on the enemy depot..only to get there and realise the target was covered with cloud. If I was in a H111, that would require going around on the bomb run (never advisable)...but with the JU-88, I just nosed over and dive bombed the target!! lol.

 

Thank you 1C.

 

on that note though.. can we get more multi engine a/c? I love the feeling of flying something large. Maybe the PE-8 or preferably a B25 or A20.

[xvii-Dietrich]

I'm in love with this bird

 

Bird?

 

Dragon!

[ShamrockOneFive]

 

on that note though.. can we get more multi engine a/c? I love the feeling of flying something large. Maybe the PE-8 or preferably a B25 or A20.

 

I'm sure we will... but remember that they are almost always the more complex types. So they can take a while to put together. We won't get a lot of them all at once.

 

An A-20 would be great. I have had so much fun flying the A-20G in Il-2 1946.

[Pharoah]

All good. I guess it will be determined by where IL2 goes ie. which theatre (if they keep on the eastern front, I'm assuming there's no further m/e a/c).

[LLv44_Damixu]

... Apparently that 20mm cannon in the nose can be used for ground attack too (haven't unlocked it yet)...

 

In-game Ju-88 is not equipped with  20mm cannons. Those would be lovely to have, though.

[Asgar]

the three things i miss about the Ju-88 in game. Stuvi, 20mm canon replacing the bombsight and the ability to fire the forward firing MG in it's fixed postition

Edited May 23, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[Pharoah]

In-game Ju-88 is not equipped with  20mm cannons. Those would be lovely to have, though.

 

oh really? there's an unlock with a 20mm cannon in the belly from memory (I assumed it was for ground attack). The whole ground attack thing I only realised they did from the wiki on it.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

I think you are mistaking it with the 20mm cannon available on the He-111 in the sim

[Pharoah]

ah ok doh!!

[Jade_Monkey]

A great plane indeed! Probably my favorite

[SharpeXB]

I tried this once for the first time and have lots of questions. Some things don't seem to work or require a different understanding?

 

Engines won't reach full power on takeoff, so I can't get any takeoff speed and just start spinning. They only hit about 1.0 ATA

Pilots gun can't be fired by the pilot, I assume that's who fires the gun that's in the pilots position

Bomb sight not accessible by the bombardier position. Only the pilot can use the bombsight?

The gun blocks the view of the engine MP and RPM which is awkward. Maybe a snap view will be necessary for that.

[Lusekofte]

Naah the PE 2 is better 

[Willy__]

Engines won't reach full power on takeoff, so I can't get any takeoff speed and just start spinning. They only hit about 1.0 ATA

You have to set prop pitch to 100% before take-off, the ju88 doesnt have auto prop pitch like the 109s.

 

Pilots gun can't be fired by the pilot, I assume that's who fires the gun that's in the pilots position

Our version of the 88 doesnt have a gun for the pilot. The forward MG you see is for the forward gunner/bombadier.

 

Bomb sight not accessible by the bombardier position. Only the pilot can use the bombsight?

Yep, limitation of the game engine, all bombers work the same way

 

 

Hope it helps!

Edited May 29, 2016 by Herr_Istruba

[Asgar]

Naah the PE 2 is better 

keep dreaming

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Square it off the old-fashioned way: pistols at dawn, Pe-2 vs. Ju-88, head-on start, 2000m high, no firing during the merge

 

EDIT: On a more serious note, they both have great strengths and limitations. The Ju-88 is a far better level bomber while the Pe-2 is a much better dive-bomber and ground attack aircraft. If I want to flatten a factory I'll take the Junkers, but if I need to do some demolition at the front it's Pe-2 all the way.

Edited May 29, 2016 by 55IAP_Lucas_From_Hell

[SharpeXB]

Hope it helps!

Oh yeah. Manual RPM control, just like the other Junkers plane in the game.

[Pharoah]

lol it took me a while and a lot of trial and error to figure out what a/c use what (prop pitch, mixture, oil rads, water rads, engine cowls, etc etc). Luckily I have a CH multi-throttle quadrant so I just basically jam everything into open!! lol.

[Lusekofte]

I like the JU 88, but nothing really made me leave the PE 2 , except from the MI 8 module in DCS that is. But other than that , meh.. Wait you got the IL 2 in FNBF , but other than that nah nothing. 

I think a JU 52 , DO 17 , HS 129 , A 20, PE 8/ TU 7, HS 126, JU 188, DO 217, IL 4 , SB 2 , HE 115, SU 2, PO 2 just might get me in mood for changing opinion 

 

But seriously the JU 88 feels right and authentic in the air, among the German planes this is pretty exclusive

Edited May 30, 2016 by 216th_LuseKofte

[-TBC-AeroAce]

very nice apart from the fact it has the worst visibility of any plane ever PE-2 is still my n#1

[Monostripezebra]

very nice apart from the fact it has the worst visibility of any plane ever PE-2 is still my n#1

 

 While the Ju-88 is the most efficent bomber in terms of speed and bombload.. it maneuvers a bit weird and looks ugly as sin. Nothing beats the Pe2 in terms of elegance and fun flying in the bomber department.

[Asgar]

eeh you pesky traitor you. Nothing is more beautiful, fast or effective as the Ju-88. At level bombing or dive bombing

[No601_Swallow]

Forward visibility isn't great in the '88. I prefer the Heinkel for "interior design". But the 88's soooooo faaaaaaaaast....   We should have an ahistoric siren unlock for the 88, for those "Can't believe I'm dive-bombing in this!" moments.

[Asgar]

i pass if the siren would sound as bad as the ones on the Stuka...i wish they would use a historical sound for that

 

Edited May 30, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[LukeFF]

 

 

You have to set prop pitch RPM to 100% before take-off

 

Fixed

[III/JG2Gustav05]

I tried this once for the first time and have lots of questions. Some things don't seem to work or require a different understanding?

 

Engines won't reach full power on takeoff, so I can't get any takeoff speed and just start spinning. They only hit about 1.0 ATA

Pilots gun can't be fired by the pilot, I assume that's who fires the gun that's in the pilots position

Bomb sight not accessible by the bombardier position. Only the pilot can use the bombsight?

The gun blocks the view of the engine MP and RPM which is awkward. Maybe a snap view will be necessary for that.

Actually you still can access the bombsight in any gun positions by firstly pressing the key assigned to "nestle to the gun sight" . I think they did a bad job on what they were trying to fix on this respect, maybe because they are a small team. but for Ju88 there really has a plenty of bugs need to be fixed.

 

For the gun blocking the front view I think we should have an option to removal the front machine gun in plane setup menu.

 

other stuffs should be implemented,

- auto-pilot function on course only, this can dramatically release the human effort during climb. 

- auto mechanism for dive-bombing.

- fuel jettison ability.

- more bomb load patterns.

- multi-fuel tank management (This is in the development list already)

Edited June 2, 2016 by III/JG2Gustav05

[xvii-Dietrich]

- auto-pilot function on course only, this can dramatically release the human effort during climb.

Absolutely! This is definitely needed.

[Asgar]

i think Han was asked about it and he said it's "possible in the future" ...i know it's one of his standard answers but still better than "not planned"

[Yogiflight]

And it would be nice, if the forward machinegun would be in its real flightposition, lashed in a sling at the right side of the cockpit, so the pilot was able to see the engine instruments at the right side of his panel. The position in game was only for shooting the machinegun from the pilot, when the navigator was either at the bombside or the right rear machinegun, supporting the radio operator with his defensive fire.

And of course, it would be nice, if the navigator was sitting on his seat and not in  front of it, behind the bombsight, where he was only during the bombrun.

And has anyone ever seen those plates in front of the radio equipment? I very much doubt, that this was IRL.

Edited June 3, 2016 by Yogiflight

[LukeFF]

 

 

And has anyone ever seen those plates in front of the radio equipment? I very much doubt, that this was IRL.

 

What plates? 

[Yogiflight]

The, I guess, armorplates under the rear machineguns. Under them you can see the lowest parts of the radio equipment.

[Ernst_The_Ace]

It would be nice if you could unlock defensive 13mm for the A-4 like you could with the 20mm on the He 111.

 

It would also be nice if the front mounted 7.92mm could be fire by the pilot.

[Willy__]

 

 

It would also be nice if the front mounted 7.92mm could be fire by the pilot.

 

I want that so bad

[III/JG2Gustav05]

I have one question about Ju88's dive brake, It seems if you dive from higher than 3500 m,(engines already set to idle before the dive begins) the angle is equal or larger than 60 degree and quite the dive less than 1000 m, you will have a big chance to damage the air brake, because the speed exceeds 650 kph. seems the air brake is not efficient as it should be. Will we have the same problem in real life?

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Well diving with the Ju-88 was restricted to 60° max for a reason.

 

That being sayed I have yet to damage my divebreaks in this aircraft. Did you check your entry speed? You should let it slow down before setting airbrakes and entering the dive.

[Asgar]

It would be nice if you could unlock defensive 13mm for the A-4

that's one of the upgrade modules that's missing if you ask me. the other is the Revi

 

edit:typo

Edited June 6, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[Monostripezebra]

I want that so bad

 

you can.. since you can fly from any position, just swich to front gunner, fly from there and map the reargun triger to the stick. Just one MG is not sooo satisfactory, though.

 

 

in any case, the Pe2 is better then the Ju88, here is a direct comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycXaUW6DFE

[III/JG2Gustav05]

Well diving with the Ju-88 was restricted to 60° max for a reason.

 

That being sayed I have yet to damage my divebreaks in this aircraft. Did you check your entry speed? You should let it slow down before setting airbrakes and entering the dive.

Hi 5tuka, thank you for the advice. I normally start the dive with 300-320 kph IAS. what is your speed? I remember that there also has some luftwaffe pilots account mentioned that they dive Ju88 exceeding 70degree occasionally.

[wtornado]

you can.. since you can fly from any position, just swich to front gunner, fly from there and map the reargun triger to the stick. Just one MG is not sooo satisfactory, though.

 

 

in any case, the Pe2 is better then the Ju88, here is a direct comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycXaUW6DFE

The mating ritual did not go well.

 

PE birds genes are just too strong.

[KoN_]

thanks gents ,  i am learning the JU-88 .

[CisTer-dB-]

Wasn't it the Jumo engine had a normal starter instead of the inertial one that we ear right now?