APIKalimba Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Here is what I can remember off the top of my head.. I know I probally missed a few in 20+ years of flight simming Aces High Aces of the Pacific Aces of the Pacific 1946 Aces over Europe Aerofly FS Air Warrior (AWSVGA) Air Warrior II (AWII) Air Warrior III (AWIII) B-17 Mighty eight B-17 Mighty eight II BOB2 Wings of Victory Battle hawks 1942 CFS 1 CFS 2 CFS 3 Chuck Yeager's Air Combat (CYAC) CoD Comanche 3 Confirmed Kill (aka beta Warbirds) DCS A-10C DCS Black Shark DCS Flaming Cliffs DCS Flaming Cliffs 2 DCS Lock-On DCS P-51 Eurofighter Typhoon European Air War (EAW) F-19 Falcon Falcon 3.0 (and all the addons) Falcon 4 Fighter Squadron: Screaming' Demons over Europe Gunship IL-2: All versions Janes F-15 Janes F-18 Janes F-18 Janes Longbow Janes WWII fighters MS Flight Pacific Air War 1942 (PAW) Red Baron Red Baron 3D Rise of Flight Rowans Battle of Britain Rowans MiG Alley SEF-2000 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (SWOTL) Strike Fighters Strike Fighters Europe Strike Fighters Vietnam TFX Their finest hour Warbirds Hello Ace, Did you actually own all of these !!??? If so, you really have contributed to the industry ! Salute !
BlueHeron Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) Installed: Cliffs of Dover Rise of Flight DCS World: A-10C, P-51D, Ka-50 Shelved: IL2 Sturmovik IL2 Sturmovik: Forgotten Battles IL2 Sturmovik: Ace Expansion Pack IL2 Sturmovik: Pacific Fighters IL2 Sturmovik: 1946 MS Flight Simulator X MS Flight Simulator 2004 Combat Flight Simulator 1, 2, 3 Edited December 18, 2012 by BlueHeron
GOAT-ACEOFACES Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Hello Ace, Did you actually own all of these !!??? If so, you really have contributed to the industry ! Salute ! Yup! And I have the box for most of them too.. The ones that had boxes! Also I made alot of mods for the AOTP and AOE games back in the day, that you can still find onlnie at Chris' ACEPAGE (see mods by Tagert) http://acepage.beckament.net/aotp.html Hard to belive I have been donig this for 20 some years now!
Force10 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Yup! And I have the box for most of them too.. The ones that had boxes! Also I made alot of mods for the AOTP and AOE games back in the day, that you can still find onlnie at Chris' ACEPAGE (see mods by Tagert) http://acepage.beckament.net/aotp.html Hard to belive I have been donig this for 20 some years now! I didn't see the Flanker series on your list Ace! I'm willing to bet you had them though :D Flanker is one of those sims that I had...but I always forget I had it...lol. Wasn't a huge Flankerite and it sure caused some controversy back in the day over at Combatsim.
EdwardGale Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Let's see... -RoF -IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 with UP3.0 -DCS A-10C Warthog -MSFS 2004, X -MS Combat Flight Simulator 1, 2, 3 -B-17 The Mighty Eighth -Wings over Europe -Wings of Honour -Combat Wings: Battle of Britain And probably more I'm forgetting
APIKalimba Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Yup! And I have the box for most of them too.. The ones that had boxes! Also I made alot of mods for the AOTP and AOE games back in the day, that you can still find onlnie at Chris' ACEPAGE (see mods by Tagert) http://acepage.beckament.net/aotp.html Hard to belive I have been donig this for 20 some years now! Good to know you a little better Ace. I see you are a real passionate of the genre...And have some know how in the matter... We are all in for another long journey here....I am confident this one will be a better and friendlier one... Salute !
gn728 Posted December 18, 2012 Author Posted December 18, 2012 Hey how come no one listed these gems...
GOAT-ACEOFACES Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 I didn't see the Flanker series on your list Ace! I'm willing to bet you had them though :D Flanker is one of those sims that I had...but I always forget I had it...lol. Wasn't a huge Flankerite and it sure caused some controversy back in the day over at Combatsim. DOH! Your right I did forget about that one.. It was one of the first jet sims I actully liked! That and it was one of the first PC flight sims to impliment a full 6DOF FM! If I remeber correctly, the SSI group that made that sim went on to become something else.. I want to say they had something to do with LockOn but not sure Eitherway thanks for the heads up! I can't belive I forgot that one Good to know you a little better Ace. I see you are a real passionate of the genre...And have some know how in the matter... We are all in for another long journey here....I am confident this one will be a better and friendlier one... Salute ! S! Every year sims get better! Every year I get older
vl6 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Installed:IL2 46 with tons of modsROFClodIn the shelve:IL2, IL2 complete editionCFSCFS2CFS3 (I still can remember my frustration :D )Lost forever:F-16 aggressor ( my first pc simulator)Eagle one - harrier attack, Ace combat 1 and 2 ("simulator" enough for mine beloved ps1)
Dutchvdm Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 (edited) Current - ROF - CloD - DCS A10 (But i can't force myself to actually play it) - Il2 1946 Not a flightsim, but still a sim - Silent Hunter 4 with the superb(!!) trigger maru mod. Looking forward to BoS!! In the past? (Spitfire 40, Knight of the sky, Gunship 2000, USNF (And the "37" add-on's wich came later), Longbow 2, Jane's F15, EAW, Jane's WW2 Fighters, Il2 (the first 1946 and everything in between), Grtz Martijn Edited December 18, 2012 by martijnvdm
Jetlagg Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Rise of Flight *** Il-2 Cliffs of Dover Il-2 1946 *** FSX FS2002 FS2004 X-Plane 9 CFS3 OFF-p3 Lock On: Flaming Cliffs Those marked with *** are the ones I currently play. As you can see, there aren't many.
Bearcat Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Here is what I can remember off the top of my head.. I know I probally missed a few in 20+ years of flight simming Aces High Aces of the Pacific Aces of the Pacific 1946 Aces over Europe Aerofly FS Air Warrior (AWSVGA) Air Warrior II (AWII) Air Warrior III (AWIII) B-17 Mighty eight B-17 Mighty eight II BOB2 Wings of Victory Battle hawks 1942 CFS 1 CFS 2 CFS 3 Chuck Yeager's Air Combat (CYAC) CoD Comanche 3 Confirmed Kill (aka beta Warbirds) DCS A-10C DCS Black Shark DCS Flaming Cliffs DCS Flaming Cliffs 2 DCS Lock-On DCS P-51 Eurofighter Typhoon European Air War (EAW) F-19 Falcon Falcon 3.0 (and all the addons) Falcon 4 Fighter Squadron: Screaming' Demons over Europe Gunship IL-2: All versions Janes F-15 Janes F-18 Janes F-18 Janes Longbow Janes WWII fighters MS Flight Pacific Air War 1942 (PAW) Red Baron Red Baron 3D Rise of Flight Rowans Battle of Britain Rowans MiG Alley SEF-2000 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (SWOTL) Strike Fighters Strike Fighters Europe Strike Fighters Vietnam TFX Their finest hour Warbirds Y'know...... this explains a lot..
Jupp Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Currently Installed : IL-2 4.11.1 (stock) IL-2 HSFX 6.0.17 (mod) IL-2 Ultra Pack 3.0 (mod) IL-2 Dark Blue World (mod) IL-2 Cliffs of Dover (with FXAA injector) Microsoft Flight Microsoft Flight Simulator 2002 Microsoft FSX (with FS Water Configurator) Microsoft Combat Flight Simulator 3 (stock) MSCFS3 Mediterranean Air War (mod) MSCFS3 DPC Korea (mod) MSCFS3 European Theater of Operation (mod) MSCFS3 Rising Sun (mod) Rise of Flight World of Warplanes (closed Beta tester) Enemy Engaged 2 (helicopter gunships game) I've also had FS98, CFS1 & 2, Abacus' expansions + utilities for those, plus countless downloads, and other assorted games in the past. I'd like to add that a greater part of this hobby, for myself, was skinning, mission building, and sharing and receiving such things as that.
AndyJWest Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Currently just Il-2 '46 stock and UP (out of date I think), CloD and RoF - though really only RoF gets much use. I keep meaning to start another career in stock '46, on the Slot map with the improved AI - I'll probably leave it for the next TD patch though, as it'll hopefully be along soon.. At some point I'll have to try CloD out properly online too - I think it is only the steep learning curve, and the knowledge that I'll be easy meat to the experten that has held me back so far. Then again, I don't do much better in RoF.
GOAT-ACEOFACES Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Y'know...... this explains a lot.. I PLEAD INSANITY BECAUSE I'M JUST CRAZY ABOUT FLIGHT SIMS!
Rangi Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Surprised no one has mentioned Tornado by digital intergration, this game had the best truely dynamic campaign ever in a flight sim even up to today. I'm surprised there havnt been any better dynamic campaigns since (falcon 4 came close).
FlatSpinMan Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Hey Rangi, welcome to the forum. You wouldn't be from NZ, would you? Strangely I've never even heard "Tornado" mentioned before.
APIKalimba Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 So how many of those top sim companies ar still alive today ? I guess not so many. I also remember Jane WW2 Fighters being the first real good looking one on the market with gorgeous cockpits. And I remember an interview with those guys who were working on the next "generation" with better everything...And then ...nothing...Gone....Stange things happen... Salute !
dburne Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Ahh no kidding, those were the days ( Janes Sims)
gn728 Posted December 19, 2012 Author Posted December 19, 2012 So how many of those top sim companies ar still alive today ? I guess not so many. I also remember Jane WW2 Fighters being the first real good looking one on the market with gorgeous cockpits. And I remember an interview with those guys who were working on the next "generation" with better everything...And then ...nothing...Gone....Stange things happen... Salute ! That was the main reason I asked the question - my answer from this thread was basically that everbody buys/bought all of it! So what kind of numbers does it take to be viable!? If I'm reading it right the 1C forum has like 60 thousand members, SAS has like 20K - I couldn't find totals for SIM HQ and ROF, but they've got to be comparible if not bigger, not to mention western Europe, Russian forums etc. Now I know there's a lot of member crossover but it seems like a pretty big audience (to me). I'm dying to know what kind of sales it takes to be profitable.
APIKalimba Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 That was the main reason I asked the question - my answer from this thread was basically that everbody buys/bought all of it! So what kind of numbers does it take to be viable!? If I'm reading it right the 1C forum has like 60 thousand members, SAS has like 20K - I couldn't find totals for SIM HQ and ROF, but they've got to be comparible if not bigger, not to mention western Europe, Russian forums etc. Now I know there's a lot of member crossover but it seems like a pretty big audience (to me). I'm dying to know what kind of sales it takes to be profitable. What it shows, is that the traditionnal business system , like buying the game for $50 and then wait for free updates , is obviously not economicaly viable. Even Microsoft got out.... So probably ROF and WT model is more suitable for a long term profitable niche market like sims.... To those who don't like to pay for upgrades and additionnal planes / options /whatever, well, look at those lists.... Salute !
GOZR Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 I do own many but here the ones left on my HD RoF FSX DCS's IL2: 1946 IL2: ClOD Condor
Dutchvdm Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 60K members or sold copy's is nothing compaired to the sales numbers of Call of Duty and Battlefield. I guess 60K is just not enough. Currently there's are petition going for GTA5 because Rockstar does not want to bring it to the PC market. I think that explains a lot. Grtz M
LoneRanger Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) Currently: DCS World with A10-C, P-51D, Black Shark 2, Flaming Cliffs 3 & Combined Arms Rise of Flight IL2-1946, but I rarely play it now. Every now and then on my HDD: Falcon4 BMS, but I can't stand the graphics for long. CoD, but I can't stand the overall state of the game for long. Edited December 20, 2012 by Bricks
jokerBR Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) IL2 1946 several modded versions DCS world A-10, P-51 DCS black shark LOMAC FC3/FC2/FC BMS Falcon SF2 wings over europe/israel/vietnam/north atlantic FSX ROF Aerofly FS ClOD 7-G demo oh and BoB II wings of victory CFS3 Silent Wings Oh and to include stuff still laying around somwhere Falcon 4 AF Falcon 4 Janes WWII fighters Janes F/A-18 That ED flanker game forgotten it's name CFS 1/2 rowans battle of britain rowans WWI sim forgot it's name Mig Alley B-17 mighty eigth European air war Wow - pretty much the same, except for B-17, that "7-G demo" (?) and Silent Wings. Edited December 23, 2012 by jokerBR
ACG_Bobo Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Clod IL-2 RoF RB3D Falcon 3-4 BMS Allied Forces and all EAW Pacific Fighters Hellcat Ace and too many to remember, from wee toggle switch joysticks to MSFF2!
310thWillyVic Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) Aces of the PacificAces over EuropeB-17 Mighty EigthCFS 1CFS 2CFS 3Chuck Yeager's Air Combat (CYAC)Crimson SkiesDCS A-10CEuropean Air War (EAW)Fleet Defender (F14 Tomcat)F117 Stealth FighterFalconFalcon 3.0 (and all the addons)Falcon 4 AFFighter Squadron: Screamin' Demons over EuropeIL-2: All versionsMicrosoft Flight Simulator: All VersionsPro-Pilot 99Red BaronRise of FlightSecret Weapons of the Luftwaffe (SWOTL)Wings over Europe And assorted C64 "simulations" WV Edited December 23, 2012 by 310thWillyVic
Bearcat Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 I PLEAD INSANITY BECAUSE I'M JUST CRAZY ABOUT FLIGHT SIMS! Yeah but i'dn it great!! I tell ya what... what does this mean to you..... (picture a hand..) Ennnnnnnnrnnnhnhnnnrhhhhrrrnnrnnrnhhrhhrhhhrrrhhhhhhhhhh That was probably my first flight sim now that I think of it..
GOAT-ACEOFACES Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) That's how it all starts.. Or at least that is how it all use to start prior to the PC! Back in the 60s we use to build models and than run around the back yard making the zoom zoom rat-a-tat-tat-tat sounds.. In a way I kind of feel sorry for the kids today who never used their hands and went zoom zoom.. In that they are not exercising the best sim of all.. Imagination! Edited December 24, 2012 by ACEOFACES
352nd_Wheels Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 IL2 - 1946 : 4.09 fully custom modded (90% playing time) HSFX 6.17 custom modded - waiting for Asura's modded Dgen to give it a full spin 4.11 vanilla (just as future mod installations starter) 4.10 - DBW 1916 - curious what vpmedia and co. can make of this ( so far looks promising ) Wings of Prey - pure fun Cliffs of Dover European Air War fully modded - still the best offline playing experience (IMHO) ... too bad it's lost Nvidia drivers support dust magnets: CFS CFS2 CFS3 reg Z Check out the SimHQ EAW forum. http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/85/1/European_Air_War They have upgraded it quite extensively and continue to upgrade it. It will play on newer systems now. Hey - I fogot to ask - you can't play Mig Alley on any current system can you? According to this thread you can play it using WIndows 7. Mig Alley on Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3471260/1.html Wheels
jdo3 Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 Man I have so little... Il-2 1946 Il-2 Cliffs of Dover (though I need a better machine to play it...) Wings Over Vietnam I had the free version of Rise of Flight for a while, and I tried out the DCS World - both of which would require a better machine... (sense a trend XD)
Heywooood Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 MSFSX RoF DCS A10 WoP these are all I have on the HD...there have been others but this is the current, active list current rig is Pi5 @ 3.4g GTX670 win7 64 prem. 6gigs RAM SSD an inexpensive home build that runs everything real well
Skoshi_Tiger Posted December 25, 2012 Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Strangely I've never even heard "Tornado" mentioned before. Tornado was good, I didn't own it but played it quite a few times on my Bro's machine. First sim I can remember that allowed you to loft bombs! Edited December 25, 2012 by Skoshi_Tiger
MB_AVRO_UK Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Hi all, Going back some time: Spitfire Zombies (Great maps! Rowan?). Mustangs Over Mars (Grafix to die for!). Double Jugs (P-47s skimming the decks). Bristols Aloft (Exploits of the famous Bristol F2b Fighter WW1. Slightly dated now, but ok on older machines). Avros and Beyond (The many Avro varients in their natural habitat, the sky. A challenge and a joy. Highly recommended).
nynek Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Salute Gents !!! Airwarrior - al ver. Red Baron WarBirds Aces High Jane's WWII Fighters B-17 Mighty 8th Rowan's BOB European Air War Microsoft CFS 1,2,3 Il2 plus UP3 and Hsfx 6.... Microsoft FSX plus REX plus two continents plus many airfields plus yada,yada,yada... Cliffs of Dover ROF and no I will not install again Microsoft Flight
Monk Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Some impressive lists. I flew a few back in teh past, then took a few years off flight simming, came back recently. Currently installed (play time varied) ROF - main title since discovering it a couple of months back. CLOD- More I fly it, the more I like it now it runs on my system as a reasonable compromise between bling and performance. Il2 - 2 installs, one with DBW and the other with HSFX - All time fave, still play anything up to 10 hours a week. Best sim ever. DCS - Basic World and A-10, however i am only learing the Hog and havent fired a shot in anger yet. Love the Frogfoot though, simple, deadly, ugly as a hatful. DCS Blackshark v1 - Not bought the upgrade yet, to be honest I am hopeless at it. LockOn + FC1 + FC2 will get FC3. Fly mainly the Russian jets due to simpler avionics Falcon 4 AF** Falcon 4 BMS** Open Falcon** Free Falcon** (Viper) **I am no good at modern ultra technical aircraft, so no idea why i have 4 version of the one game installed when i can barely shoot things with it lol. I am determined to learn however when I get time so have them hanging about. MFSX - with addons Strike fighters 2 + all ex pacs - simple, moddable and great for some instant gratification. Siim light yes but I enjoy the eras represented. As you can see, the bulk of my gaming library these days are flight sims, then add about as many racing sims to that list lol. I'm a big Iracing particpant. in the past I have tried: CFS all versions Flanker 2 Rowans BoB Di's Hind DI's Apache Jane's Longbow Janes F-18 (I think it was a Jane's title) EF2000 First Eagles tinkerd with WWIIOnline as a pilot. MFS9 MFS2004 Flight Gear Xplane Warbirds Have Warthunder half installed, but to be honest I really don't care and have little time for playing it. Also dabble in some sci fi stuff, such as the X and Evochron series. I have found, while my first love is the IL2 series and ww2 stuff, I have learnt more about flying and found it is probably more suited to my flying style in ROF. As a confirmed ground pounder I never really did much dogfighting till I started ROF and have learnt alot, which I am slowly converting to the ww2 machines flying around in the 109's in CLOD and 46. Having spent my gaming budget int eh past on racing peripherals I really suffer for decent flight controls. Need a throttle badly. Least I got TrackIR for xmas
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