GTX1080

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080

[SharpeXB]

Lookin good :-D

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Looking very good.

 

One thing I find interesting is that these cards are faster, better, more power efficient and also cheaper than the current high-end ones in the market. From what I've read the GTX 1080 is going to market for about US$ 699, while the GTX 1070 for US$ 379, and both outperform the Titan X in most aspects.

 

As a bonus, it's probably good news for the VR crowd since these new GPUs will slash the entry price for a VR PC by about a third. Once they come up with a more refined and accessible headset we will see more people trying it out, and ultimately find out if VR is the be-all and end-all addition gamers were looking for.

[kestrel79]

When are these coming out? 2016? Think I will hold out for the next round of cards.

[Picchio]

End of May/June.

[kestrel79]

Cool!

 

Maybe I'll finally switch to NVIDIA cards. Been meaning to do a full reformat of my aging system.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

$599.99 for the entry level the $699.99 is over clock founders edition looks like the bat mobile.

 

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-pre-order-listing/

[Goanna1]

Thanks for the info... as I'm in process of determining Hardware for new computer build...

Edited May 9, 2016 by Goanna1

[jaydee]

Hi mastiff !. I am going to wait for the Ti...My upgrade plan this year is a  30- 34  Curved High res Monitor with a 1080 ti....

I am not spending any money on VR. I don't think ANY Sim is Compatible with VR, Yet. VR is in its infancy and prone to lots of problems.

Anyone thinking of buying a (Gimme,Gimme, Now !) Founders Edition 1080 ?... Read This : http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/geforce-gtx-1070-1080-founders-edition-explained.html

For Pilots on a Budget :  The 980ti is going to drop in price and it still one hell of a video card !

~S~

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

cool I wonder when the Ti will be out?

[jaydee]

cool I wonder when the Ti will be out?

 

I'm Guessing about 3 months !

[Zettman]

$599.99 for the entry level the $699.99 is over clock founders edition looks like the bat mobile.

 

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-pre-order-listing/

 

The founders edition is just a normal reference design and should not be overclocked at all, you just pay 100 extra for the name and the refernece design. The 599.99 ones will be the variants with non-reference coolers.

 

Zettman

Edited May 11, 2016 by Zettman

[jaydee]

cool I wonder when the Ti will be out?

 

I just noticed you have the same monitor as me...I think this monitor was well worth the money. So far its the best monitor I have had. Having that 144Hz RR allows me so much more Variables in my game graphics. Such as "disable V-sync ".DSR  etc....Not to mention the "Mouse" controller !..No more leaning over trying to find Menu Buttons on the Monitor. I have a Profile for BOS,DCS and Arma3...Button 1,2 or 3. Brilliant design !

Also , (I believe but have no proof) it smoothens Track IR viewing significantly... In all my games. I think Track IR likes a high RR.

I paid the same money for this BenQ as my 970...It was worth every cent...at 1080 FHD.

Now I am on the lookout for a new BenQ with High res, G-sync, that can be run by a 1080 ti GTX.

~s~

[Livai]

I just noticed you have the same monitor as me...I think this monitor was well worth the money. So far its the best monitor I have had. Having that 144Hz RR allows me so much more Variables in my game graphics. Such as "disable V-sync ".DSR  etc....Not to mention the "Mouse" controller !..No more leaning over trying to find Menu Buttons on the Monitor. I have a Profile for BOS,DCS and Arma3...Button 1,2 or 3. Brilliant design !

Also , (I believe but have no proof) it smoothens Track IR viewing significantly... In all my games. I think Track IR likes a high RR.

I paid the same money for this BenQ as my 970...It was worth every cent...at 1080 FHD.

Now I am on the lookout for a new BenQ with High res, G-sync, that can be run by a 1080 ti GTX.

~s~

 

I sitting here, scratching my head, wondering why a 144Hz RR allows you so much more Variables in your game graphics. Such as "disable V-sync ".DSR  etc....Not to mention the "Mouse" controller !. My 60hz RR can do the same thing. Disabled V-sync and my SLI-Graphiccards will draw faster than the 60hz RR and the gameplay will be more smooth without problems. If a 120hz/144hz RR go below this value and this will happend every times you can expect problems. The above 60hz RR how the 120/144hz RR thing is just a idea same as the Idea from Nvidia with the founders edition. With the founders edition talking about their better overclocking ability myth is Jen-Hsun Huang at the same level how steve jobs was. A very good advertising salesman.

[Dakpilot]

GTX 980Ti was released at least 9 months after normal GTX980 and after Titan edition, I would expect similar timeframe with GTX1080 range

 

Possibly with even less need on Nvidia's part for speed of release due to AMD's next cards being aimed at more general/mid market than high end

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

I have a GTX 660 and still good Core i5 4670k, so I was wondering if making a jump to GTX 1070 would be a good idea in this case, since CPU should still be sufficient. 

[Dakpilot]

^^ In most instances (but not all) it is the minimum FPS experienced that you will find is limited by CPU, in your instance you will be able to run much higher resolution (or DSR) with much higher graphics setting with much higher FPS in many situations

 

If you have not already, an overclock (for small improvement in min FPS) and a GTX1070 would see a big change, higher resolution or high DSR make a big difference to visual quality, coupled with smooth playing = improvement

 

TLDR = yes but maybe best to wait for real world tests/experiences

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Well, I dont have the money to make a complete change of the platform, not to mention that I see no reason to do so. I might buy a small SSD to run new system and new GPU like this should greatly improve the experience (and FPS), but 4-cores in 3.4 Ghz ( I never overclocked that thing, since I got a standard out of box cooler) and 8 GB Ram should do totally fine.

 

And I agree, I will wait for some tests, as they say over the net, GTX 1080 is expected to be released soon and I hope 1070 will follow. Performance of Titan X in range of 380 $ sounds really great. 

[Dakpilot]

Cheap closed loop watercooler and overclock to 4.0ghz+  ( best dollar performance ratio mod) and you will see a big improvement of min FPS in all situations, your CPU is good for quite a bit yet, SSD highly recommended 

 

GTX 1070 looks to be the best value option, 970 was very good value at the time even if quite expensive

 

Titan performance (with many tech improvements) for $380 seems too good to be true! ( if $380 can be considered a 'cheap' thing LOL)

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

 

 

if $380 can be considered a 'cheap' thing

Not in my country lol with current "price" of Dollar here, a single GTX 1070 is equal to a minimum wage we have. But its still relatively cheap for the supposed performance it has. 

[Dakpilot]

Tell me about it, in my country a single GTX1070 would be a GOOD average monthly salary, keeps things in perspective

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Livai]

The 1070 GTX will be faster as 970 and 980 GTX that is sure. But never surpass 980 GTX TI or Titan X. Why 980 GTX TI and Titan X have a higher Memory bandwidth and a much higher Shader count. The 1080 GTX will be the one what is more interesting. Same price level how the 980 GTX TI faster as a 980 GTX TI and Titan X. I expect with the 1080 GTX a 30 FPS improvement over 980 GTX TI and Titan X. Even more interesting will be the 1080 GTX TI with a higher shader count and 640 GB/s Memory bandwidth. Short said a 1080 GTX TI will be again 30 FPS faster than a 1080 GTX if you play 4k!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijx-1wz2FSA

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

AS far as I remember no details were given yet about 1070 construction, which leaves some room for speculations. Not to mention this :

 

 

The step-down GeForce GTX 1070 outpunches the Titan X too, according to Nvidia—though it never said exactly what was being compared.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3067377/components-graphics/nvidias-beastly-geforce-gtx-1080-and-gtx-1070-the-10-key-things-you-need-to-know.html

 

Sure 1080 will be interesting, and 1080 Ti even more but those are top GPUs and they are expected to best everything produced before. And price reflects that. 

[SYN_Lt_Dan]

Poor AMD what they going to do now go nuclear on their next line of cards

[kestrel79]

Think my next plan of attack will be a summer reformat upgrading to a SSD, 1070 gpu, overclock my cpu for the first time by getting a aftermarket cooler, and see how far that gets me upgrading my over 5 year old PC that is still going strong!

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Think my next plan of attack will be a summer reformat upgrading to a SSD, 1070 gpu, overclock my cpu for the first time by getting a aftermarket cooler, and see how far that gets me upgrading my over 5 year old PC that is still going strong!

 

Paired with an SSD and a GTX1070 you should be pretty solid - the 2500K is getting older but is still (IMO) one of Intel's best chips - I absolutely loved mine and she's now serving a friend's system just as well as she did mine.

 

I was able to push my 2500K to 4.5GHz @ stock voltages with temps in the mid 60s under a full load.

 

Sorry for the OT but upgrading PCs gets me a little giddy. 

[Dakpilot]

2500K should be remembered as one of Intel's 'landmark' moments in CPU history 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Capt_Stubing]

^{I've been waiting a while for this card to come out... Not biting the first go around because these cards don't support the biggest performance gain because they will be using DDR5 or DDR5x memory.  I will wait for the H2MB versions to come out as that is the real game changer.}

Edited May 12, 2016 by 14./JG5CaptStubing

[Rjel]

The price vs performance of the 1070 sounds appealing. If it does perform or maybe even surpass the best current Nvidia cards, it would do everything I'd want in IL-2 for months maybe even a couple of years to come. By then there will be something newer in the pipeline to drive down prices. I think I'm less likely to be looking for the "best" card anymore as that distinction is usually short lived.

[kestrel79]

Good to know Space Ghost,

 

What cpu cooler did you use to overclock your 2500k? Never overclocked before, want to do it right and safe.

[unlikely_spider]

Good to know Space Ghost,

 

What cpu cooler did you use to overclock your 2500k? Never overclocked before, want to do it right and safe.

It's not difficult to get a better cooler than the stock one that most CPUs come with. I use one very similar to this Deep Cool one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6J32TP7756&cm_re=deep_cool_cpu_fan-_-9SIA6J32TP7756-_-Product

 

I've also had good experience with Cooler Master coolers in the past.

 

It keeps my i4770k (overclocked to 4.2 GHz) at about 30° idle and in the 40s under stress. Make sure your case has room - measure the distance from the top of the CPU to the case and get the biggest cooler that will fit. Not only do larger heat syncs cool more, but it allows for bigger fans which are quieter since they don't have to spin as fast. Take the airflow in your case into account, but in my experience the larger upright coolers where the fan blows the air horizontally across the fins, like the one linked above, are more effective than the ones similar to stock coolers that lay flat (where the fan is parallel to the CPU). I always position the fan to blow air across the fins, then directly into the case fans out of the case.

Edited May 16, 2016 by engrish_major

[Lusekofte]

Personally I have more use of a better CPU , changing CPU , GPU and maybe motherboard it would be cheaper to buy a new. So I am on the fence right now. 

I would of course wished for a new with:

big CPU and a 1080 TI and a huge SSD , but flying almost nothing it would be a waste of money as long as this game is not compatible with the latest VR gadgets

[JG27_Chivas]

The higher general performance of these new cards is great, but the more important question for VR users is how effective these new cards VR optimizations are.   There is new hardware on these cards that allows for multi projection in a single pass, which would mean an added significant boost in performance for VR headsets.  Another question is, what the requirements are to use this new hardware features?  Some people are suggesting that these VR hardware optimization can only accessed  thru DX12, and NVGameWorks  game engines but this hasn't been verified yet. 

[jaydee]

The higher general performance of these new cards is great, but the more important question for VR users is how effective these new cards VR optimizations are.   There is new hardware on these cards that allows for multi projection in a single pass, which would mean an added significant boost in performance for VR headsets.  Another question is, what the requirements are to use this new hardware features?  Some people are suggesting that these VR hardware optimization can only accessed  thru DX12, and NVGameWorks  game engines but this hasn't been verified yet. 

 

64 million dollar questions Jim ? that's why I'm holding off on VR !

~S~

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Good to know Space Ghost,

 

What cpu cooler did you use to overclock your 2500k? Never overclocked before, want to do it right and safe.

 

I used an H100i for that project.

[Dakpilot]

Have used H100i with my 3570k 24/7 at 4.46ghz for quite a while now (couple of years at least), no issues whatsoever and the software is quite nice as well

 

Gets a highly recommended from me

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

 

So I know what I'm spending my money on this summer And all those nay sayers claiming it cant be as good as Titan X cause not enough CUDA cores or whatever other reasons must be surprised. 1070 is as good as Titan X, sometimes even slightly better, while costs a lot less. And its only reference card now, the custom editions can get it even higher.  

[BlackSix]

The problems with the fan on GTX 1080 Founders Edition

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/938256/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-founders-edition-fan-issue-/1/

 

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

That's why reference (aka "Founders" edition) should be skipped. Custom cooling like Gigabyte Windforce systems always work better. Plus it may be issue with drivers. Early purchases always come with defects and issues.  

[Lusekofte]

yesterday I was about to buy a new rig, with the founders edition, then I thought, maybe I should wait? because I will not be flying much during summer anyways.

Oh god I am glad I sometimes manage to think before I hit the buy button

Edited May 30, 2016 by 216th_LuseKofte