wtornado Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 A victory is a victory - shooting down an undefended He111 is equally as valid as engaging a 109... If not more so for the strategic implications. The HE-111 pilot has defected and is fighting heavy Mechs with his Catapult Mech
FuriousMeow Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Despite the misleading "stats" in the OP, the P40 isn't bad regardless. As with all aircraft, the experiences in sim vs in what was historical are so different that they can't even be compared. That's why historical references mean very little in terms of just about everything. Very little 1vs1 engagements on the deck occurred in WWII, not to mention the rest of the ridiculous crap that happens in online servers. The way to truly use these virtual planes would be in actual scenarios, using coordination with squads and designated targets to attack/defend. All aircraft will perform significantly different from the historical memoirs compared to the yank and bank and "Imma turn so hard guys!" of online that it is truly absurd to reference historical engagements to compare to the tripe that occurs online. There have been so many occasions I've watched a 109 just try to level flat turn with another fighter, or a 190 blow a pass and then just run away without even thinking about using that energy advantage to go vertical into any form of vertical maneuver that would a) throw off the trailers aim and b) set the pursuer into a disadvantage when their energy runs out. Everyone's pet plane is insufficient, but it isn't them. Never. 3
Irgendjemand Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Well, i am not full certain about the circumstances. But yesterday on berloga a friend of mine was caught by a P40 on a treetop chase. He was emergenypower and the P40 gained from like 1000m to firingdistances and shred him. So I dont have the impression the P40 is crappy. But thats just from a perspective of someone that doesnt fly it but observes buddys geting shot down by it. Edited April 23, 2016 by Irgendjemand
Mac_Messer Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Despite the misleading "stats" in the OP, the P40 isn't bad regardless. As with all aircraft, the experiences in sim vs in what was historical are so different that they can't even be compared. That's why historical references mean very little in terms of just about everything. Very little 1vs1 engagements on the deck occurred in WWII, not to mention the rest of the ridiculous crap that happens in online servers. The way to truly use these virtual planes would be in actual scenarios, using coordination with squads and designated targets to attack/defend. In other words - coops.
BlitzPig_EL Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Well, i am not full certain about the circumstances. But yesterday on berloga a friend of mine was caught by a P40 on a treetop chase. He was emergenypower and the P40 gained from like 1000m to firingdistances and shred him. So I dont have the impression the P40 is crappy. But thats just from a perspective of someone that doesnt fly it but observes buddys geting shot down by it. Quite possibly the P40 started out with an altitude advantage and converted it to speed. I'm not sure how the game models it, as I don't have BoM yet, but the real Hawk 87 was redlined at 500mph (805 kph) and could safely dive at that speed, and it also picked up speed rapidly in the dive. This is the best tool in the P40's kit. And do remember that medium to low level is where the P40 works best. I really do have to get this thing soon...
ShamrockOneFive Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 Quite possibly the P40 started out with an altitude advantage and converted it to speed. I'm not sure how the game models it, as I don't have BoM yet, but the real Hawk 87 was redlined at 500mph (805 kph) and could safely dive at that speed, and it also picked up speed rapidly in the dive. This is the best tool in the P40's kit. And do remember that medium to low level is where the P40 works best. I really do have to get this thing soon... You definitely should The speed in a dive thing the P-40 does really well here. Its the what happens after that gets a bit difficult as it struggles to regain altitude and speed. Its workable... and definitely an underdog but it can surprise.
7.GShAP/Silas Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 In other words - coops. There is absolutely no reason why you can't do those things("using coordination with squads and designated targets to attack/defend") in multiplayer on a decent server. But the cohesion and plan need to be able to actually work when faced with humans rather than just being masturbatory in purpose. If one approaches this as a dogfight windtunnel, the P-40 is pilot killing garbage. But I've seen guys use their brains and do well at more than jousting.
[TWB]kmac31 Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 hey guys i put together some clips of my successes in the p40. i used the gun cam script and some filters, all the clips are from wings of liberty i hope it inspires some of u to fly the p40 more. this is my first attempt at a video dont be to harsh lol. i hope you guys enjoy watching the sparks fly from the .50 cals like i do! https://youtu.be/OUMw5uhlvjI 9
pilotpierre Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Bloody brilliant, just like the real thing. Well done and a good first post.
=EXPEND=Dendro Posted April 30, 2016 Author Posted April 30, 2016 hey guys i put together some clips of my successes in the p40. i used the gun cam script and some filters, all the clips are from wings of liberty i hope it inspires some of u to fly the p40 more. this is my first attempt at a video dont be to harsh lol. i hope you guys enjoy watching the sparks fly from the .50 cals like i do! https://youtu.be/OUMw5uhlvjI 1st Post!!!??? Whaaaaaa? :o: Like Pilot Pierre said awesome first post. I posted this thread because whenever I fly with you, you're always getting good results in the 40. This is living proof of the carnage you bring to the battlefield. That is a whole bunch of hurt you're dishing out there. How many kills right there?? True warrior! 1
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Excellent video! I'd suggest making a separate thread for it in the video section, you deserve it
BlitzPig_EL Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Wow!! Great video and great use of the P40! I really need some lessons on it...
[TWB]kmac31 Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 Than you guys I'm glad you liked it. I'm not sure how many kills dendro it was a compilation of this last week of flying.
Jason_Williams Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 That's a really great video kmac! Good job. Jason
1CGS LukeFF Posted April 30, 2016 1CGS Posted April 30, 2016 hey guys i put together some clips of my successes in the p40. i used the gun cam script and some filters, all the clips are from wings of liberty i hope it inspires some of u to fly the p40 more. this is my first attempt at a video dont be to harsh lol. i hope you guys enjoy watching the sparks fly from the .50 cals like i do! https://youtu.be/OUMw5uhlvjI Very good! Just needs that old film projector sound to give it that '40s authenticity.
Venturi Posted April 30, 2016 Posted April 30, 2016 hey guys i put together some clips of my successes in the p40. i used the gun cam script and some filters, all the clips are from wings of liberty i hope it inspires some of u to fly the p40 more. this is my first attempt at a video dont be to harsh lol. i hope you guys enjoy watching the sparks fly from the .50 cals like i do! https://youtu.be/OUMw5uhlvjI Yeah, yeah... excellent yada yada, now you must get Dave and I flying line astern strafing and flying through the secondaries
PatrickAWlson Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Observation: it seems that if you fly at 2KM alt you immediately have a 1.9KM alt advantage over 90% of the rest of the world 1
Tektolnes Posted May 6, 2016 Posted May 6, 2016 I can live with the P-40 - it is what it is and you just have to work around its limitations as best you can. If you can get on target those .50 cals rip planes to shreds. I just hope they change the .50 cal gun sounds at some point. I feel like I'm hearing a gun fight from the A-Team tv series every time I pull the trigger.
Alkyan Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Well, the P40 is crappy... but it can fly with with one wing
BlitzPig_EL Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 I flew you under power to the crash site. not exactly the same as actually flying.
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Well, the P40 is crappy... but it can fly with with one wing Dont see anything wrong with it, its not impossible, either from theoretical or practical point of view. There were such accidents where aircraft lost 1/2 or even 2/3 of its wing and still made it back to base. Kanichi "One Wing" Kashimura can serve as such example : Of course in reality it required a lot of skill to regain control of damaged aircraft and keep it flying. If you can repeat that and fly back to your base, that will be truly an achievement
=362nd_FS=RoflSeal Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) This is now a one wing thread. Edited May 7, 2016 by RoflSeal
Alkyan Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) If you can repeat that and fly back to your base, that will be truly an achievement Challenge accepted. I'll will kindly ask 109s to aim for the wing when I fly the P-40. Nice screenshot ! Edited May 7, 2016 by Alkyan
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