Optimal PC for best settings in BoS

[Blakhart]

I m planing to buy a new PC for specially for BoS.

Now its ok on medium settings and medium resolution ( +/- 1200 x 700 ) with :

 

- i3 3,4 ghz / 4gb RAM / 1gb graphic / 26" screen

 

but I want to play with best graphic and higher resolution ( 1900 x 1200 ).

 

 

I`m thinking about new i5 4670k  on 1150 socket with + 8gb ram + new motherboard + old 1 GB graphic card.

 

Any of you have similar set ?

How its working with BoS ?

 

 

[ATAG_Slipstream]

I'm getting 50-60 fps, everything on maximum except landscape textures, v synch on. I run 1920x1080 on a 32" TV. Don't forget this is currently an alpha build, so it might be due some optimisation yet.

i5 2500k @ 4GHz

8GB ram

GTX670 2GB

Edited November 19, 2013 by 9./ZG26Oster

[Blakhart]

On a TV ? Hmm... What with your eyes after 2-3 hours of playing ??? 

I was reading a lot about cons and pros of using TV or regular monitor.

Finally I bought a 26 " Iyama, its very good but 26 its not a 32... ;] Bigger is better no matter what modern magazines says... XD

 

 

thx for all replies

[Marrond]

On a TV ? Hmm... What with your eyes after 2-3 hours of playing ??? 

I was reading a lot about cons and pros of using TV or regular monitor.

Finally I bought a 26 " Iyama, its very good but 26 its not a 32... ;] Bigger is better no matter what modern magazines says... XD

TV doesn't differ all that much from monitor since they're essentialy the same (unless you meant some old TVs with 480p ). Same refreshing, technology (unless you're using monitor with IPS from Eizo from graphic design, these eat more energy than regular monitor and have much wider color palette as well as color accuracy) and experience - just way bigger. Contrast and colors are just cranked up in settings by default but nothing you couldn't adjust.

 

I'm now 4 years in after I've set up my 40'' TV as my main gaming screen (I still use old 19'' 1280x1024 5:4 to browse web and do other office stuff since it eats way less energy) and I'm sitting like ~1,5m far from it? It's ok, any problems that would occur is motion sickness if game has no FOV slider and if you're vulnerable to it (for example Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 when FOV is arround 50 and it would be maybe ok if you sit like 4m from the screen... same goes with let's say Battlefield Bad Company 2) - it's not the case in any flight simulator since you can adjust FOV with buttons during flight however you pleases.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Marrond

[Dakpilot]

I use a 40" TV @ 1920X1080 not had any probs with eyes, (RoF/IL-2...etc.) no more than watching movies  I dont think i could go back to a smaller screen even with better resolution, and it was cheaper than a decent monitor

 

Still downloading so cannot help with performance of PC in my sig

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Marrond]

I m planing to buy a new PC for specially for BoS.

Now its ok on medium settings and medium resolution ( +/- 1200 x 700 ) with :

 

- i3 3,4 ghz / 4gb RAM / 1gb graphic / 26" screen

 

but I want to play with best graphic and higher resolution ( 1900 x 1200 ).

 

 

I`m thinking about new i5 4670k  on 1150 socket with + 8gb ram + new motherboard + old 1 GB graphic card.

If you've already got 1150 socket then i5 4670k would be excelent choice for gaming and other heavy duties. If however your i3 is using 1155 socket it's just not worth the change (since performance gain is not worth the extra price and changing of motherboard) for now. Go for i5 3xxxk since it will fit your socket (again, all depends on what you have right now). 8GB ram should be enough for gaming, I have 16GB and never saw any game using more than 2GB of memory anyway (this may change just now since games are now written in 64bit without backwards compability - for example BF4, most 32bit aplications are limited to adress arround 2GB of memory). If you want to play in 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 you should have atleast 1,5GB graphic card. As it is right now game eats ~1,2GB video memory with maxed out settings and 1920x1080. I recommend 680/770/780 (I think 660Ti would also work without any issues) or 7950/7970 with 2GB+ for best results. That is unless you want to throw tons money into GTX Titan or something.

 

 

 

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tl;dr: not worth to change motherboard, just get Ivy Bridge i5 (3xxxk) and replace graphics card with one with 2GB memory or more.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Marrond

[Marrond]

Oh and another important thing many people overlook: remember that when you add more memory make sure it's the same model, mhz and cl to avoid any unexpected stability problems. If you can't get the same model, just sell your current one you have and buy 8GB dual channel (2x4GB) . Other brands and models might work without an issue but they might also cause unexpected problems so it would be wise to get the same as you have or replace them.

[Blakhart]

Thx Marrond, I have 1156 now, so no big difference for me.

 

Main thing is do I must buy i7 /2gb graphic/16gb ram/m-board or I can save some money on cheaper i5 and buy all equipment in 1 week.

 

At now I see i7 is not so important.

[SeaW0lf]

I m planing to buy a new PC for specially for BoS.

Now its ok on medium settings and medium resolution ( +/- 1200 x 700 ) with :

 

- i3 3,4 ghz / 4gb RAM / 1gb graphic / 26" screen

 

but I want to play with best graphic and higher resolution ( 1900 x 1200 ).

 

 

I`m thinking about new i5 4670k  on 1150 socket with + 8gb ram + new motherboard + old 1 GB graphic card.

 

Any of you have similar set ?

 

How its working with BoS ?

 

 

Like Marrond said, if you have an 1155 motherboard, just buy an i5-3570K and upgrade the GPU. If you upgrade the CPU and maintain the GPU, you are probably not going to see any fps improvement. But without knowing your actual specs there is no much to say.

 

Could you post you current complete configuration?

[ATAG_Slipstream]

i5 is fine for gaming unless you need hyperthreading.

[SeaW0lf]

Thx Marrond, I have 1156 now, so no big difference for me.

 

Main thing is do I must buy i7 /2gb graphic/16gb ram/m-board or I can save some money on cheaper i5 and buy all equipment in 1 week.

 

At now I see i7 is not so important.

 

And what's the VGA that you intend to keep?

[Marrond]

Thx Marrond, I have 1156 now, so no big difference for me.

 

Main thing is do I must buy i7 /2gb graphic/16gb ram/m-board or I can save some money on cheaper i5 and buy all equipment in 1 week.

 

At now I see i7 is not so important.

Oh so it is that ancient i3, well fair enough then

 

2gb graphic card but preferably one of listed above. You might check out tests in other games to suit your need, not worth it to judge by current alpha state since it runs with older hardware better than with new one and for one with monstrous rig it's working perfect while for other it's stuttering. We should wait for full release and then check performance on various rigs. 16GB might be unnecessary, as far as gaming purposes go. As I've said up to date there are very few games that can use more than 2gb of memory regardless of how much you have. There's no problem for going straight to 16GB it just not needed and actualy these extra 200zł may serve well to get better GPU if you're low on budget or you could get SSD drive (although decent ones are for ~500zl for 120GB)

 

i7 might be important if you're going to buy it for work with video and 3d graphics editing (and 2d digital painting on HUGE canvas) - but just to make it faster and smoother experience, not as necessity For gaming i5 2500k (Sandy Bridge, LGA 1155) is more than enough currently so I'm pretty sure i5 4xxxk will serve you well.

If you upgrade the CPU and maintain the GPU, you are probably not going to see any fps improvement. But without knowing your actual specs there is no much to say.

He would see improvement but he would be unable to play at full hd resolution or higher since these resolutions eat more than 1gb video memory. He would run game and experience freezes every few seconds as texture size would be too big in total for available memory pool. He would still be able to play just fine at, let's say, 1600x900 (just a wild guess actualy might have tune it down to 1366x768 or even 1280x720)

Edited November 19, 2013 by Marrond

[Blakhart]

Now I have GTX 460 SE

 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-460-se/specifications

 

I can buy better, ie. 2gb card or buy another one with 1 GB.

 

 

At now I think about such set:
 

i5 4670K + Thermalright HR-02 Macho

 

graphic card - leaving old GTX460 SE and buy in future something with 2 GB at least.

 

MSI Z87-G43 - motherboard ( medium price and a lot of USB for Joystick/ Pedals/ Throttle, TrackIR, etc. )

 

RAM: ??? dont know ;/ I think 8 GB will be far enough, some propostions ?

 

power: now I have TAGAN 600W, I think it is enough for 1gb at now

Edited November 19, 2013 by =LG=Blakhart

[Virus*]

i think you should also upgrade your graphic card

[Livai]

The fps are great on my HTPC. 

 

My HTPC:

 

AMD A8-3870K with AMD HD 6550D (inside the CPU)

8 GB Ram (2GB used for the Graphic Part)

 

I play on 1920x1080 all Settings on Maximum

Vsync and Antialiasing are disabled.

 

Edit: With this Machine I played Cliff of Dover with all Settings on Medium at 1920x1080. 

Edited November 19, 2013 by Superghostboy

[Marrond]

Now I have GTX 460 SE

 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-460-se/specifications

 

I can buy better, ie. 2gb card or buy another one with 1 GB.

 

 

At now I think about such set:

 

i5 4670K + Thermalright HR-02 Macho

 

graphic card - leaving old GTX460 SE and buy in future something with 2 GB at least.

 

MSI Z87-G43 - motherboard

 

RAM: ??? dont know ;/ I think 8 GB will be far enough, some propostions ?

 

power: now I have TAGAN 600W, I think it is enough for 1gb at now

 

I wouldn't go into SLI as many games have problems with it (current BoS alpha have problems too according to forum reports) and SLI itself isn't scaling well (although still better than few years ago). Better just replace it with one with higher memory. Remember memory is only needed for handling higher resolutions, while GPU performance is the whole another story. I.e. if you replaced your GTX 460 SE with version with 2GB (not sure if there's one, but that's just example) it may or may not run well in high resolution since memory would be enough but not the GPU itself. Now keep in mind it's just an example. Anyway if you're going for fresh new hardware you should look into something from GPUs I've listed (they're 100% sure shoots - other cards like 7870 might work well too but it's too early to judge that

 

i5 4670K is Hasswel - you won't have need to OC it (and personaly I wouldn't recommend OCing anything unless you need to because it simply shortens live of your hardware in the long run) and slight OC is handled well enough to not bother with additional cooling. When I had C2D I ran it with Scythe Infinity (which was and considered best air cooler) - when I swapped to i5 2500k I decided to not bother with mounting it because there was completely no overheating problem. i5 4670k is smaller architecture therefore it eats less energy and provide less heat. Unless you already have that cooler or you really want it there's no need to buy it. Reference cooler is enough (it may be an issue if you're some silence purist but then you would propably go for water cooling)

 

As mentioned in 1st paragraph make sure that "something" will fit the requirements as higher memory doesn't necessarily compliment better hardware. 2GB is needed for 1920x1020 and higher but it's not the most important thing.

 

Current Intel processors realy don't care about motherboard as well when it goes to OC so pick one that suits your need (enough USB ports, or PCI ports, or SATA ports - whatever you need) - if you're gonna to make crazy OC then just make sure your motherboard is having strong power section.

 

Cheapest one you can get in DualChannel should be enough. Antyhing from 1600MHz CL9 to 2333MHz should work without any visible difference. Back in C2D days memory was very important if you wanted to OC CPU, today however it isn't. OCing new Intel procesors is as boring as pressing the button

 

600W is propably WAY more than enough for you right now. It should be enough even for new hardware, you just might want to prepare for change - not because 600W would be insuficient but because PSU is getting worse over time (and your is pretty old if you have it since last hardware change) so if you have any possibility to check it's current performance (voltage metters, etc.)  is stable then it would be nice - just to prevent frustration I'm using Enermax 920W but I intended to run CrossFire setup (just found it not worth the price so I sold one 6950 2GB and freed near PCI port for Asus Xonar Essence ST audio card). Yesterday my friend bought new parts for his PC and similar setup (same i5, 8gb ram, GTX760) and it's running perfectly fine with 500W PSU.

[SeaW0lf]

Now I have GTX 460 SE

 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-460-se/specifications

 

I can buy better, ie. 2gb card or buy another one with 1 GB.

 

 

At now I think about such set:

 

i5 4670K + Thermalright HR-02 Macho

 

graphic card - leaving old GTX460 SE and buy in future something with 2 GB at least.

 

MSI Z87-G43 - motherboard ( medium price and a lot of USB for Joystick/ Pedals/ Throttle, TrackIR, etc. )

 

RAM: ??? dont know ;/ I think 8 GB will be far enough, some propostions ?

 

power: now I have TAGAN 600W, I think it is enough for 1gb at now

 

 

You could keep the GTX 460 for now, but don't expect a whole lot of difference with the i5. You might gain some frame rates, take the graphics a little higher, but the VGA will keep you on the middle size of things with lots of compromises. But the CPU upgrade needs to be first, because if you replace the VGA and keep the first generation i3, you are going to have some serious bottleneck. And I also don't advise to go for SLI. People are having problems, and I wound not expect a miracle in the coming months. It might never be fully optimized for SLI.

 

If you intend to get serious with gaming, be ready for overclock, so the i5-4670K is the choice, in my opinion. The Thermalright is not the best choice: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermalright-Macho-CPU-Cooler-Review/1449/6. You can check other coolers.

 

And 8GB of RAM is enough for the next (few) generations of games.

 

If you buy a new VGA, don't get less than 2GB. BoS is more than safe with 2GB, but 1GB is not enough to play at higher settings.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Seawolf

[Mirtma]

I m planing to buy a new PC for specially for BoS.

Now its ok on medium settings and medium resolution ( +/- 1200 x 700 ) with :

 

- i3 3,4 ghz / 4gb RAM / 1gb graphic / 26" screen

 

but I want to play with best graphic and higher resolution ( 1900 x 1200 ).

 

 

I`m thinking about new i5 4670k  on 1150 socket with + 8gb ram + new motherboard + old 1 GB graphic card.

 

Any of you have similar set ?

 

How its working with BoS ?

 

All graphic settings on max, steady 60 FPS. My PC spec on sig.

[Fifi]

You know, it's not needed to through that much money to run this sim full settings...

An I5 3470 @ 3.2Ghz + GTX 580 (mine is Zotac) + 8Gb RAM does the job just fine on BOS/ROF/DCS.

Furthermore, all can be found second hand.

[JG300_Fried]

So far, I run the game maxed out at 50-60 fps  (1920 x 1080) with 8gb of RAM, a GTX660 Ti and a OC-ed i5 3750k.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Fried300

[=BLW=Pablo]

hello Black!!! S! well i use this conf

DH61CRBR | Intel Pentium I-5 2500 K 3.3/3.7 GHZ | Corsair 8gb DDR3 1333MHZ| HD500/HD320 SATA 2 | EVGA GTX 670 2GB DDR5 | Enermax Naxn 600w

 

and all run at max and sweet

[Blakhart]

What you think about that card :

 

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX760OC 4GB ?

[Marrond]

What you think about that card :

 

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX760OC 4GB ?

It's good, but 4GB looks like an overkill to me - it might be good for 2560x1600 but don't take my word on that. You won't need 4GB memory and 760 might be not sufficient to run 3 displays (because this is where you MIGHT need more memory, not sure though you've got to ask people here since few of them are actualy running multimonitor) - even if you don't have to add much more money to 4GB version it stills looks like an overkill. 2GB should be more than enoguh for running any game in 1920x1080 (and this is your target, right?).

 

You know, it's not needed to through that much money to run this sim full settings...

People upgrade PC once in a while - let them last longer

As for GTX 580 - if I had choice I would pick used 660Ti - price is not that much higher and it's quiet (in comparisment to 580 that is) and has lower temperature and power consumption while offering greater performance. Difference in price between these two is totally worth it imo.

Edited November 19, 2013 by Marrond

[FuriousMeow]

I'm running a GTX770 2GB, RoF only used half the memory - actually a little less with everything maxed out but no AA. Using SweetFX for AA. Running 2560x1600. I haven't looked at BoS's memory usage because at this stage it really won't reflect on the end product - but I suspect it'll be around the same as RoF when it's released.

 

I upgraded for several different reasons - totally new system and for other games I play besides BoS.

 

Upgrading for BoS at this juncture is a little premature, I would play out the alpha and beta with your current hardware. With feedback from systems low to mid range, the devs can create settings to accomodate those systems with the appropriate feedback and could delay upgrading a little while longer - and then when we get closer to 80% complete look into upgrading for all the bells and whistles because we don't know what they could introduce later on down the line. Additionally, the video cards will be cheaper then.

[=69.GIAP=YSTREB]

I'm getting 50-60 fps, everything on maximum except landscape textures, v synch on. I run 1920x1080 on a 32" TV. Don't forget this is currently an alpha build, so it might be due some optimisation yet.

i5 2500k @ 4GHz

8GB ram

GTX670 2GB

 do you get view distortion for ouside view for your TV. I get view distorted on my 27inch wide hd monitor. how do I choose resolution for real world pic like view. now lagg from outside view looks so strange stretched out of shape