Can we fix the engine busting on rough landing??

[GridiroN]

So, I get this often...

 

I glide in for a landing, my plane bounces (maybe I came in too fast, or my flaps were too strong, causing lift) and on the second touch down my engine pops with a broken propeller even though my propeller was no where near the ground.

 

It happens in BF109's most. Surely this is not intended??

Edited April 8, 2016 by GridiroN

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Tape your landings. I'm pretty sure you will find the prop DM is done well and you are striking it on landings. Taping will also help you improve your landings overall. Gotta be in a good 3 point in this sim and the nose does seem much higher than in the old '46 in particular. I have rough landings on occasion but survive them because I keep the nose high on a bounce. Don't relax the stick too much or you will prop strike every time.

[TP_Jacko]

I think you answered your own question. Control your descent rate and hold off the last point before touch down to let the speed drop then pull back very gently on the stick so it looks like you are in a take off position. The 109 is easier to land than the LaGG

[Ace_Pilto]

You can fix it by not landing your plane like it was a golf ball.

[GridiroN]

Guys, obviously you'd want to land properly in an ideal world. My point is, in the event of a rough(er) landing, my propellor and engine shouldn't be breaking from a 3 point landing regardless how rough it was so long as the propellor doesn't hit the ground.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

As others said, make a track and report back after watching it carefully. Most of the time you think you come in a 3-point attitude you're not.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I have not experienced an engine break from a hard landing in a true three point, only on a prop strike.. If I understand correctly you are breaking engines from impact alone? I've hard landed a lot of AC in the sim, particularly when suffering previous damage and not had an engine failure in this way. I suspect you are landing flatter than you believe.

 

In the 109, in particular you have to be very nose high. Study the position of the AC before take-off. It is much higher than I remember from '46 and the gear is sprung MUCH higher. You have to be very precise to avoid bouncing in all of the AC in this sim and use the ground effect for the flare. It is modeled quite well.

 

Additionally, if you change attitude at all on a landing bounce (nose rises or falls) you have not actually landed in the 3 point and your front/rear landing gear are rebounding at different rates. If you bounce in the 3 point you should continue to hold attitude and let her settle while, maybe, adding a very small amount of throttle so you don't stall. Just relaxing the stick to maintain airspeed will result in a prop strike most of the time. There is not much clearance if you land even remotely flat.

 

I had to shoot a bunch of landings in the 190 recently becuase I was approaching too high and settling in the flare. I was initially blaming the new FM but it wasn't the case. It was all pilot error on the approach that was making the last 5 meters feel awkward. It illustates that a minor early error has real consequences at the end of the landing sequence.

Edited April 10, 2016 by [LBS]HerrMurf