Battle of Moscow campaign nightmare

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Please give your impressions about the Battle of Moscow solo campaign, personally I find it very near unplayable and frustrating.

 

Please note that I only play in Hardcore in order to unlock stuff and that I'm normally not interested in single player and I wished I didn't have to grind and unlock in a supposed simulator game, if you want to talk about normal mode please create your own topic because i'm not even remotely interested in your opinion if you don't play in Hardcore mode.

 

So here's the thing, in my I-16 (worst plane to play the campaign easily facing armies of 109F2 the only plane luftwaffe throws at you) or other planes for that matter, I constantly find myself isolated facing waves after waves of stupid lazer like accurate AI who appears in large numbers from nowhere and one shoot me most of the time with lazer accuracy in head on passes disabling my engine or killing my pilots thus ending the mission and making me waste more and more time for unlocks and skins.

 

The stupidity of the AI when it fights with you is insane, they are not covering you or each other and they are shoulder shooting next to you taking your kills even in one or two burst of small caliber with lazer accuracy, ramming you or enemy planes, same goes for the enemies who get in your six sometimes with 3 planes at once firing at you altogether.

 

The AI seem to have a sixth sense that tell her if you are on his low six right where you should normally be undetected.

 

Some missions are also poorly designed (not like the map who was made by talented people), I found myself being shot at by enemy AAA standing next to the airfield right after takeoff or having to fight ground attack planes over an enemy airfield for no apparent reason (action point right over it) thus getting cut into pieces by the famous WW2 radar guided AAA we get here like in multiplayer games, these can of course shoot you easily in a 700+ km/h dive as you may already know.

 

These are my first impressions of that campaign that I know assimilate to torture you pay for.

 

Feel free to tell me if you think i'm wrong but in that case tell me why please.

 

Sorry for the long post, here's a sexy potato:

 

Edited April 1, 2016 by 5./ZG1_Haug

[Finkeren]

At higher pilot levels the campaign can indeed get frustrating at times with the unfair odds it throws at you. That being said, I have found it quite playable so far.

 

The I-16 in my experience is actually the easiest fighter to take on the hordes of 109s in (the BoM campaign features E7s, F2s and F4s). You can easily trick the AI into low level furballs, where you can use your superior wing loading and power/weight ratio to completely outfly them. I got 3 kills against F4s on my first I-16 mission.

 

About AAA, the answer is to simply avoid it, as pilots did in real life. I think heavily AAA defenses areas are even marked on the improved map. If your flight path goes straight over an enemy airfield, fly around it. If your objective is right near AAA hold back your attack until it has passed out of the danger zone. If you see tracers coming your way, turn sharply and run away.

 

Hope that helps.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Alright but the issue I have is i'm fighting with small caliber machineguns without unlocks so I sometimes find myself shooting over and over at the same target and without the cannons it's just not easy at all especially when several 109s jump on you all at once while my wingmans go straight for the objective ignoring fighters completely.

[Finkeren]

Agree, but in this case all I can say is, that you share your grievance with the pilots who actually flew the Ishak in combat.

 

What I do is, that I shoot the 109s till they spew either black smoke (engine damage) or white fumes (leaking radiator) at that point I switch target and let nature run its course. With damage like that the enemy fighter is usually doomed anyway and will try to leave the fight, let him.

 

On the way home, I often get messages that I destroyed this aircraft, then that aircraft. Planes I damaged several minutes earlier.

[YoYo]

Didn't start the BoM campaign yet (I use Expert mode also)  but perhaps is a problem described here: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/21563-should-i-avoid-levelling-campaign/ .
 
If you have a bigger level of pilot You will recive super sniper hero AI as enemy, so if You have in BoS for example 10th level You will receive the best sniper enemy in the sim in campaign BoM too. Pity................
 
I hope it will be solved soon, for me its a wrong idea totally, for example: if Galland was a good pilot he met only the best pilots (with eagle eys) or AAA team on the World in RL? No!

Edited April 1, 2016 by YoYo

[Willy__]

Alright but the issue I have is i'm fighting with small caliber machineguns without unlocks so I sometimes find myself shooting over and over at the same target and without the cannons it's just not easy at all especially when several 109s jump on you all at once while my wingmans go straight for the objective ignoring fighters completely.

 

Aim for the weak spots! A small burst of MG can completely wreck the 109 engine/radiators.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Herr_Istruba

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Thanks a lot for your answers guys.

@ Yoyo I do believe this has to do with my pilot which has a level 9-10...no wonder.

@Finkeren The fact that black smoke is specific to engine damage I didn't knew thanks! About white fumes the issue is it could be a fuel leak (that won't burn ofc).

[=FEW=Hauggy]

lol tried again got one shot by bf 109 with engine smoking black...

Then I shot down 3 He-111 and guess what my game crashed...

Edited April 1, 2016 by 5./ZG1_Haug

[Finkeren]

Thanks a lot for your answers guys.

@ Yoyo I do believe this has to do with my pilot which has a level 9-10...no wonder.

@Finkeren The fact that black smoke is specific to engine damage I didn't knew thanks! About white fumes the issue is it could be a fuel leak (that won't burn ofc).

Black smoke is always engine damage or oil leak. An oil leak puts the engine on a very short timer before it dies, but usually there is no loss of power in the meantime. Engine damage can sometimes be fatal, meaning the engine dies after X number of minutes, or it can sometimes be minor and the engine can continue running at reduced power. In both cases however power is reduced, and hence the fighter will be less of a threat, especially it it's an AI, because the AIs flying often becomes erratic when they're forced to fly on lower power.

 

You can tell the difference between a radiator leak and a fuel leak quite easily: Fuel leaks are thin, grey-greenish vapor trails that are somewhat harder to see, while coolant leaks are long, brightly white and very opague, looking kinda like the clouds (which is essentially what they are)

 

Coolant leaks like oil leaks puts the engine on death row with no immediate loss of power, but the time it takes is generally longer. Still, it is considered "serious engine damage" and the AI will normally try to quit the fight, if you let it.

 

Fuel leaks are a bit different, in that they of course put a timer on the aircraft, but usually a slow one unless there are multiple leaks. In the meantime the diminishing fuel load actually makes the enemy more dangerous and often the AI won't turn home until fuel levels become critical.

[pilotpierre]

Didn't start the BoM campaign yet (I use Expert mode also)  but perhaps is a problem described here: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/21563-should-i-avoid-levelling-campaign/ .

 

If you have a bigger level of pilot You will recive super sniper hero AI as enemy, so if You have in BoS for example 10th level You will receive the best sniper enemy in the sim in campaign BoM too. Pity................

 

I hope it will be solved soon, for me its a wrong idea totally, for example: if Galland was a good pilot he met only the best pilots (with eagle eys) or AAA team on the World in RL? No!

I am with you here, as soon as I got to level 10 in BoS I stopped playing the campaign as it was just too frustrating. In my opinion the pilot level is the siliest and most unrealistic thing in the game.

 

I will give the BoM campaign a go but unfortunately the pilot level carries on from BoS so I am already level 10, ergo I cant see me investing too much time with it, which is unfortunate as with no pilot level I think it would be fun.

[Finkeren]

I am with you here, as soon as I got to level 10 in BoS I stopped playing the campaign as it was just too frustrating. In my opinion the pilot level is the siliest and most unrealistic thing in the game.

 

I will give the BoM campaign a go but unfortunately the pilot level carries on from BoS so I am already level 10, ergo I cant see me investing too much time with it, which is unfortunate as with no pilot level I think it would be fun.

 

Don't worry Pierre. They've cranked it up a notch. I'm working my way toward lvl 11 now, and who knows how far it goes? By the end of the BoM campaign the mission odds might just start out with you alone in an already damaged plane going 150 km/h at tree top height with five flights of 109s looming like vultures 1500m above.

[Turban]

Well, my feelings are similar I guess

 

1) Wingmen are pretty useless. They don't cover, they don't attack much if at all. Often end up doing all the ground attack by myself, they just orbit around keeping their bombs. Always frustrating to be on the way home and see them still carrying bombs. And when facing fighter I try to give them orders but they don't do much at all. At least I wish they'd cover me. Just that would be great. But they don't. I get engaged and they just orbit around waiting for something.

2) Due to my wingmen being useless, I often get shot. I do my best to cross the border and land somewhere. But I don't reach the exit point. So the mission is a fail even if the task was accomplished. That's too punishing considering the wingmen low level. If I can't have reliable support, at least give me a break and let me have a "mission completed" for completing the task and making it to the frontline alive.

 

Other than that, as you said, the map and the effects are beautiful, and I actually enjoyed missions when I was lucky enought that it went well.
Didn't have problems with AAA, but that might be because I wasn't flying the I16 which is slower.

 

Got all my unlocks for my plane of choice within 2 hours, but might still play campaign for fun, but it would be so much better if the IA was more balanced. For now it does feel like S&M at times

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Don't worry Pierre. They've cranked it up a notch. I'm working my way toward lvl 11 now, and who knows how far it goes? By the end of the BoM campaign the mission odds might just start out with you alone in an already damaged plane going 150 km/h at tree top height with five flights of 109s looming like vultures 1500m above.

Level 20 be like ... 

 

 

 

1) Wingmen are pretty useless. They don't cover, they don't attack much if at all. Often end up doing all the ground attack by myself, they just orbit around keeping their bombs. Always frustrating to be on the way home and see them still carrying bombs. And when facing fighter I try to give them orders but they don't do much at all. At least I wish they'd cover me. Just that would be great. But they don't. I get engaged and they just orbit around waiting for something.

This I concur, Ai is not helpful. I simply dont rely on them, use them as decoy and drop on enemies who go after them. That is not fun, but its the only way to win most of the mission. 

[Asgar]

if you want to talk about normal mode please create your own topic because i'm not even remotely interested in your opinion if you don't play in Hardcore mode.

 

holy S**t...first of all the mode is not "hardcore" and that means you ARE NOT hardcore (as you seem to think) get off your high horse. i prefer expert mode myself, but that doesn't mean i have to be an ass about it.   

If you want to discuss the campaign everyones imput should be considered

Edited April 1, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[Finkeren]

Well, my feelings are similar I guess

 

1) Wingmen are pretty useless. They don't cover, they don't attack much if at all. Often end up doing all the ground attack by myself, they just orbit around keeping their bombs. Always frustrating to be on the way home and see them still carrying bombs. And when facing fighter I try to give them orders but they don't do much at all. At least I wish they'd cover me. Just that would be great. But they don't. I get engaged and they just orbit around waiting for something.

 

2) Due to my wingmen being useless, I often get shot. I do my best to cross the border and land somewhere. But I don't reach the exit point. So the mission is a fail even if the task was accomplished. That's too punishing considering the wingmen low level. If I can't have reliable support, at least give me a break and let me have a "mission completed" for completing the task and making it to the frontline alive.

 

Other than that, as you said, the map and the effects are beautiful, and I actually enjoyed missions when I was lucky enought that it went well.

Didn't have problems with AAA, but that might be because I wasn't flying the I16 which is slower.

 

Got all my unlocks for my plane of choice within 2 hours, but might still play campaign for fun, but it would be so much better if the IA was more balanced. For now it does feel like S&M at times

 

I actually think the improvements in attack patterns for ground attack planes in recent patches have made the AI quite deadly in ground attack, both when I lead them and fly cover for them.

 

Before, when I flew cover for especially IL-2, I had to linger forever over the target area, while the Sturmoviks circled around making useless attacks one at a time, usually getting killed by light ground fire and failing my mission. Now, they attack several aircraft side-by-side in very convincing patterns and usually obliterate soft targets in short order, though they still struggle with tanks. When leading a flight of attack aircraft the important thing to remember is not to give them the order "attack ground targets" but instead give the order "do like me" - gives far better results.

 

AI fighters effectiveness largely depend on the aircraft type. P-40s are useless unless they attack with altitude advantage in which case I've seen them obliterate an entire formation of 109s in one pass. A single AI I-16 on the other hand can tie up 3 - 4 Messers in endless circles, while you pick them off one-by-one. 

 

When bombing the AI still seems pretty useless. The best thing to do is equip them with the most powerful bombs posible and pray they drop them close enough to the target for the blast radius to do its job.

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Well, my feelings are similar I guess

 

1) Wingmen are pretty useless. They don't cover, they don't attack much if at all. Often end up doing all the ground attack by myself, they just orbit around keeping their bombs. Always frustrating to be on the way home and see them still carrying bombs. And when facing fighter I try to give them orders but they don't do much at all. At least I wish they'd cover me. Just that would be great. But they don't. I get engaged and they just orbit around waiting for something.

 

2) Due to my wingmen being useless, I often get shot. I do my best to cross the border and land somewhere. But I don't reach the exit point. So the mission is a fail even if the task was accomplished. That's too punishing considering the wingmen low level. If I can't have reliable support, at least give me a break and let me have a "mission completed" for completing the task and making it to the frontline alive.

 

Other than that, as you said, the map and the effects are beautiful, and I actually enjoyed missions when I was lucky enought that it went well.

Didn't have problems with AAA, but that might be because I wasn't flying the I16 which is slower.

 

Got all my unlocks for my plane of choice within 2 hours, but might still play campaign for fun, but it would be so much better if the IA was more balanced. For now it does feel like S&M at times

Yeah Turban pretty much what I've felt but now after suffering throught the unlocks of the I16 I feel invincible. XD

Btw what is your plane of choice? I want to know.

Edited April 1, 2016 by 5./ZG1_Haug

[=FEW=Hauggy]

holy S**t...first of all the mode is not "hardcore" and that means you ARE NOT hardcore (as you seem to think) get off your high horse. i prefer expert mode myself, but that doesn't mean i have to be an ass about it.   

If you want to discuss the campaign everyones imput should be considered

My thing is immersion so yes that is correct i'm not interested in the opinion of people who play normal only and that is my right.

Now If you have interesting things to say you are welcome, no need to be vulgar.

Edited April 1, 2016 by 5./ZG1_Haug

[Jade_Monkey]

Nice opening there.

 

I'm with Haug, doing expert is a total immersion killer. You cant see the targets and the lack of icons is completely killing the campaign.

 

Like Haug, i have to resort to normal mode to be able to play the campaign.

[Turban]

[Edited]...first of all the mode is not "hardcore" and that means you ARE NOT hardcore (as you seem to think) get off your high horse. i prefer expert mode myself, but that doesn't mean i have to be an ass about it.   

If you want to discuss the campaign everyones imput should be considered

 

 

When you play on expert mode, when you get the debrief with the different achivement icons, the difficulty icon is "hardcore".

 

Just saying

 

Also my plane is the Mig3. It's not very good at low alt under the clouds where most fight happen, but that thing is sexy as fuuuc* .. I feel fancy flying it

Edited April 2, 2016 by Bearcat

[=FEW=Hauggy]

When you play on expert mode, when you get the debrief with the different achivement icons, the difficulty icon is "hardcore".

 

Just saying

 

Also my plane is the Mig3. It's not very good at low alt under the clouds where most fight happen, but that thing is sexy as fuuuc* .. I feel fancy flying it

Man since I've seen that soviet film about Alexander Pokryshkin I dream of this plane day and night. :D

Apprently it will be very competitive on a Battle of Moscow map without the modern German planes in 1941, imo it's quite fast ^^

Edited April 1, 2016 by 5./ZG1_Haug

[LeRocket]

i've always enjoyed the campaign in these il-2s, not that they're better than pwcg missions or old il-2 campaigns. tbh i feel like the missions themselves in all three are pretty similar except the unlocks and no pilot records. i've been attacked on takeoff, on way to action point, intercepted bombers when i was coming into land.

 

one thing i dislike is the fact that wingmen act on their own when you reach the action point. they immediately go for bombers at action point or ground targets. except when bombing where they hold formation. outside the action point it's no problem.

 

oh and i want to bomb in my 110

 

edit: just realized they added ground attack missions for 110

Edited April 1, 2016 by LeRocket

[simplyjames]

I like the campaign but its dramatically too hard sometimes. Flying BoM campaign has been a mixed bag so far. Usually I fly all the way out to the action point just to get sniped by a 109 in a huge ball of 109's. But one time I had to shoot down a single il2 which was pretty easy.

 

I wish I could choose the actual difficulty as opposed to my pilot rank choosing it for me.

[YoYo]

 

; )

[Finkeren]

Ok, I gotta say: So far I'm having no trouble what so ever with the BoM campaign. I've flown mainly fighter missions for the VVS (I-16s and MiGs) ground attack in the IL-2  and a few fighter missions with the Bf 109 E7. 

 

So far, I've not faced the unfair odds, that other people talk about. Case in point: My latest mission with the E7. We were a rotte (pair) of Emils escorting 5 Ju 87s (who flew at medium altitude and actually performed dive bombing - bravo!) Above the target we were intercepted by a pair of P-40s, which we quickly downed, never had a chance against us. Immediately after, my wingman spotted two low-flying MiGs heading towards us. After a short turn fight, I shot down one and lost sight of the other. By this time I recieved the message, that the Stukas had safely reached the exit point, so we turned for home. Then I spotted, what I assume was the second MiG from before slightly above us and I set after him. He spotted me and turned away, just as I was about to open fire, but after no more than 2 or 3 turns, I had gotten in two good bursts and he suddenly lost control and spun into the ground. Back at home base we found the airfield under attack by high flying Pe-2s. They were far too high up to pursue, but our AAA got one of them, and their bombs did little damage. I landed safely and was awarded a ****load of points for my succesful mission, landing and 4 fighter kills.

 

Perfectly fine and well balanced mission, and it's been the same on the Soviet side. No unfair odds, no sniper AI, a good balance between missions with lots of opposition and virtually no opposition. AAA is a threat, but one that can easily be avoided, if you don't take unnecessary risks.

[Napping-Man]

Personally, I'd like to see more types for fighters...free-hunt, sweep, lone-wolf, etc.

[[CPT]Pike*HarryM]

I've flown perhaps 10 or so missions with the 110 and didn't have too much of a problem. The only one that was really bad was getting a ground attack mission with the draggy bomb-sled attached, no aircover and got jumped by I-16s. Other missions were pretty decent, one we had to intercept an Il-2. I damaged him pretty badly but my wingman stole the kill. I decided to do some strafing. I ordered the wingman to attack ground targets and he actually did it, destroyed a GAZ with M4. I destroyed a fixed M4, so it wasn't too bad and I'm level 9 pilot. 110 seems to do pretty well, if it's clean it can even handle I-16s with care. Murder against P-40s. Pe-2s are very fast and hard to catch when intercepting. Haven't tangled with any MiGs yet, but they've been about mostly DFing 109s. 

[simplyjames]

I've only done 3 BoM missions so maybe I just had bad luck. One mission was me and a fellow 109 vs 1 il2, easy. The other was vs a huge fleet of PE2's which was fun but a challenge. This morning it was me and a fellow i-16 vs 5 109's and 2 110's, first shot of the engagement went through my skull.

I get that the missions seem random and when they're good they're amazing but sometimes it can be frustrating. Which is why a difficulty slider would be nice.

[Dakpilot]

Due to the random nature of mission creation, if it spits out a bad/unrealistic situation it is better to scrub it and generate a new one rather than frustrate yourself, regardless how annoying it seems

 

Some tweaking to minimise this situation happening needs some attention IMHO, this seems more of an issue than 'pilot level'

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[LLv24_Zami]

I have pretty much same experience as Finkeren in BoS and now BoM campaign missions.

 

If I do stupid things, I die just like it should be. Mission difficulty is not always the same, I don`t get jumped by million enemies on every mission. Plane counts vary quite a lot actually. I am playing at pilot level 10.

And avoid AA when you can. If you fly level above them within range, they will shoot you down 100%. 

 

But maybe some kind of adjustment for the enemy AI levels would be useful.

[BraveSirRobin]

I just had an intercept mission with 2 I-16s against 4 F4s and 3 He-111s.  

[Finkeren]

I have pretty much same experience as Finkeren in BoS and now BoM campaign missions.

 

If I do stupid things, I die just like it should be. Mission difficulty is not always the same, I don`t get jumped by million enemies on every mission. Plane counts vary quite a lot actually. I am playing at pilot level 10.

And avoid AA when you can. If you fly level above them within range, they will shoot you down 100%.

 

But maybe some kind of adjustment for the enemy AI levels would be useful.

Just to be clear: I actually did encounter the ridiculously unfair odds in the two BoS campaigns once I reached lvl 8. There I'm constantly faced with shooting down bombers when the escort outnumbers us 2 to 1 or trying to protect helpless IL-2s (who never, ever have rear gunners) against droves of Bf 109s, where one flight seem to replace another the longer we stay over target area.

 

My point is: So far, I haven't experienced this in BoM. Missions have been varied and generally fun to play rather than frustrating (other than trying to navigate the endless patchwork of small forrests, fields and steppe)

 

Hope the trend continues.

I just had an intercept mission with 2 I-16s against 4 F4s and 3 He-111s.

If such a mission happened to me, I'd think "Ok, that was harsh, but it does kinda represent the desperate situation of the VVS in late 1941."

 

If it happened again and again, I'd say "F... this s...! I play this to have fun, not endless frustration."

[Saurer]

Yesterday I had an Escort Mission were the Pe 2's were really intercepted, before usually the enemy planes were circeling somewere over the target and would wait for you.

[Finkeren]

Yesterday I had an Escort Mission were the Pe 2's were really intercepted, before usually the enemy planes were circeling somewere over the target and would wait for you.

It happens once in a while, but I usually ascribe it to chance. There is a chance, that an enemy flight will spawn as you reach the first waypoint. If it's a flight of fighters, and they spawn close enough, they will attack you, giving the impression, that you've been intercepted.

 

Most often though, the enemy flight will have an opposing number spawn closer to it, and normally they will pick a fight with them instead. I remember one particular mission some months ago where I lead a flight of 4 Yaks escorting 6 Pe-2s. At our first waypoint a flight of 4 109s opposed by 4 LaGGs spawned ahead of us at higher altitude. The two flights started a fight, quickly losing altitude and the furball descended right into our formation, which became tangled up in a chaotic 18 plane melee. It was a wonderful mess.

[LLv24_Zami]

Just to be clear: I actually did encounter the ridiculously unfair odds in the two BoS campaigns once I reached lvl 8. There I'm constantly faced with shooting down bombers when the escort outnumbers us 2 to 1 or trying to protect helpless IL-2s (who never, ever have rear gunners) against droves of Bf 109s, where one flight seem to replace another the longer we stay over target area.

 

My point is: So far, I haven't experienced this in BoM. Missions have been varied and generally fun to play rather than frustrating (other than trying to navigate the endless patchwork of small forrests, fields and steppe)

 

Hope the trend continues.

That was the case when the BoS campaign was released.

 

I have been level 10 for a long time now. Missions has been tweaked a lot from the release and IMO now it is like we have in BoM. Or maybe I have just been lucky, it is random generator after all. Of course unfair odds happens sometimes, but so it did in real life.

[LLv24_Zami]

I just had an intercept mission with 2 I-16s against 4 F4s and 3 He-111s.  

What about it?

 

You think that war in the eastern front was always fair and teams were even?

[cellinsky]

What about it?

 

You think that war in the eastern front was always fair and teams were even?

 

Exactly My thougths...Im at level 9 and have some 5 missions in BOM by now. I flew the first with the 109E and me and my katschmarek have been ambushed by hordes of I16 Snipers. We didnt last long. The other four missions however where a totally different affair. Some were very easy actually....IMHO that is the way it has to be.

 

If we are at it: In the first mission I followed the waypoints exactly, whereas in the other missions I did my own navigation. Totally ignoring Waypoints. Avoid overflying enemy positions too low.. Thats what I usually do.

 

Is it possible to miss some of the triggers in doing so and in turn have less opposition? Sombody knows?

 

Marcel

Edited April 2, 2016 by cellinsky

[ShamrockOneFive]

I'm at level 10 and while the AI is quite good... They aren't better than many of the pilots I've flown against online. I assume that many of these AI pilots are the kind of top notch fight pilot I expect and I fly accordingly. Standard evasive maneuvers work against these AI in a way that the old Ace AI in IL-2 1946 (before TD updated the AI) never did.

 

The only thing I wouldn't mind seeing as an improvement is more of a range of AI experience levels. Not every Luftwaffe or VVS fighter pilot was an ace and I don't know how much the AI generated in the campaign reflect that.

 

So far I've been having fun flying the I-16 against some tough odds. It feels like the leadup to the Moscow battle to me

[BeastyBaiter]

For grins I decided to try to do all the I-16 unlocks without using my premium access to them, this is the general result:

 

Mission 1: Intercept He-111's at 4500m escorted by 4x Bf-109F with 2x I-16. Result: Mission complete but shot down by escort, 0 points towards I-16 unlocks

Mission 2: Intercept He-111's at 5500m escorted by 4x Bf-109F, solo mission. Result: Shot down by escorts while trying to catch up with bombers.

Mission 3: Intercept single He-111 at 5500m without escort, 4x I-16's tasked to it. Result: lol.

Mission 4: Ground attack against train with 4x RoS-82's and MG's. Enemy fighter cover 12+ Bf-109F vs my two ship. Locomotive survived, we died horribly.

Mission 5: Duplicate of above

Mission 6: Duplicate of above

Mission 7: Duplicate of above

Mission 8: Intercept "attackers", attackers never spawned.

Mission 9: Duplicate of above

Mission 10: Duplicate of above

Mission 11: Duplicate of above

Mission 12: Ground attack against train, 6x I-16 (2 my flight, 4 escort) vs unknown # of Bf-109F, mission success. Bounced by 2x Bf-109F and 2x Bf-110 on way home, but managed to glide to exit point for 50% credit

Mission 13: Intercept attackers, 3x Ju-87's in overcast and rain, mission success

Mission 14: Same as above.

 

That isn't an exact list since I'm going by memory, but it does show how frustrating it can be. One thing I quickly noticed is the generator seems to get caught in a loop repeating missions and won't break the loop until you do something totally different (like select a different plane and airbase and actually fly it). I'm a little over halfway up the I-16 unlock tree. BTW, I still have only the 4x MG's on it, the cannons are at the very end. Killing a locomotive with the peashooters is no easy task and hitting them with the rockets is virtually impossible. My pilot started this process and remains at level 10 and I'm playing on expert settings.

Edited April 2, 2016 by King_Hrothgar

[6./ZG26_Gielow]

You guys should broadcast your missions. This is totally fun :D

[=FEW=Hauggy]

Mhhh the campaign seems to make my game crash often...

Also the winter part is easily the worst the clouds are at like 200 meters with snowstorms 90% of the time and enemy planes see throught the clouds...

Edited April 2, 2016 by 5./ZG1_Haug