von_Tom Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 Is it possible to set auto-balance say +/- 5 players, so if the numbers are say 30 to 25 auto-balance kicks in? It might help with the current abandonment of the VVS (possibly because the Yak flaps have been resolved). This would allow squads to stick together mostly provided they're not all jumping online at the same time. eg 30 x 25 means a squad of 10 can join so it becomes 30 v 35 von Tom
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I've always been in favor or +/- 2. Five seems a little steep for exactly the reason you stated. Suddenly the other side has an extra 10 AC. +/- 2 means you and your mate or even your flight can get in. More than that is probably too much. It's fine if you are joining in on the predominantly Russian side where the complaint often is, "why so many Lufties," but what happens if four Germans suddenly show up and shift the balance away from the Allied side. I think you'd see a lot of people rage quitting when the balance shifted suddenly and radically. That's not good for the servers either.
von_Tom Posted March 18, 2016 Author Posted March 18, 2016 Perhaps but you'd never be outnumbered more than 5, and that allows far more flexibility. Outnumbered 10 v 5 is a big deal if the map is tiny but it's not really a problem if it is 35 v 30 on such big maps. I understand what you mean about a swing in numbers but at the worst it'd be going from a +5 advantage to a -5 disadvantage. Rough with the smooth etc. von Tom
Original_Uwe Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 It's a good way to make sure some people stop playing. Personally if I showed up to wings of liberty and I tried to log in but it told me I have to take a ruski plane, I just shut it down and go play DCS. Furthermore during our squad mission nights when I show up with 10 pilots what are we supposed to do when half are told they have to fly for the vvs? It's simple-we don't fly/fly something else. This is really only going to be solved when a more interesting theater is created. I'll take one for the team and fly RAF every once in a while, but never vvs.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 What has the VVS done to break your heart so badly, my friend? j/k (For the record, I don't give a squat about autobalance. More enemies = more targets)
Original_Uwe Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Lol! Nothing at all! I just find their aircraft abysmally boring and have zero interest in them. I don't get a lot of time to play, so when I do I'm not going to be forced to do something I don't want to do. ETA: now if we're talking mig-15/21/29 or Su-27 in DCS, they are my preferred rides as th 15 is like I said boring. So it's not a bias against Russians. Edited March 19, 2016 by II./JG53_Uwe
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 Makes sense I don't think balance is all that important. What's more aggravating is the imbalance between organised units within a MP atmosphere. For each 6-pilot Allied unit there are ten Axis units with 10+ pilots. This is a big failing on the Allied side, and one that I am working to address in the short run. The truth about numbers per side is, even if you are outnumbered 4 to 1, the enemy is usually spread out across the map so factually you only ever face 4-6 aircraft together. A pair or flight working in concert can establish local air superiority and hold it for 3 minutes while the bombers wreck stuff without problem. 1
von_Tom Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 It's a good way to make sure some people stop playing. Personally if I showed up to wings of liberty and I tried to log in but it told me I have to take a ruski plane, I just shut it down and go play DCS. Furthermore during our squad mission nights when I show up with 10 pilots what are we supposed to do when half are told they have to fly for the vvs? It's simple-we don't fly/fly something else. This is really only going to be solved when a more interesting theater is created. I'll take one for the team and fly RAF every once in a while, but never vvs. Squad mission nights using WOL? I've heard of server raids - do you mean that? Theatre isn't important though. Planeset maybe. +\- 5 could be +\-7 or 10 or whatever. I don't think it will affect you personally though if you are LW or nothing, though I would raise my eyebrows if your squad came on with LW 35 and VVS 15, and all 10 went LW. (not a criticism but an observation). if needs be you can always populate another server with or without autobalance. I say that as someone who has been flying VVS to try and avoid stupid imbalance on WOL. I'd much much rather be in a FW. von Tom
Lusekofte Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) I fly VVS mostly, I find the german planes totally soul less in this game. I fly German planes in COD. But I do not like auto balance. I fly sometimes in DED server, it is often 30 germans against 5 russians. I do not care. The risk of being found there is about the same as if it was equal numbers. And AB only means like Uwe says, someone gonna leave. I choose VVS first , but if the LW is outnumbered I fly LW. That is my preference, my choice. But I do not mind if it would become a option for the ones setting up Servers. Edited March 19, 2016 by EG14_LuseKofte
Adriani268 Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 what any autobalance software needs is a way to distribute players based on their kills/level while letting them make some kind of a party that enables them to play with friends without the harsh crude autobalance you see in any game. Anyone no one didn't even brother to care
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