Can you guys buy this game for me...........?

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Interesting thread. Its funny how people get when money is involved.

 

I don't like some of the asumptions people make but yes OP should not expect his request to go well down.

 

Thing is I hate beggars but I also remember what it was like to be q kid that could not work and having tight parents that thought the internet was just for paedophiles and that gaming was the devils work meaning I had to go round to friend houses all the time.

 

To op I will be gifting a couple of copies in a week or so to randomly selected applicants. I will PM you

[Neil]

That's a hell of a good statement, Neil. You nailed it. Couldn't have expressed it better.

Thank you Blooddawn, my parents spoiled me too much and it did not helped me to believe in myself... so I had to learn alone a lot of things of life...like how this world works! long story!

I am always learning, and it is a fantastic journey.

[beepee]

.....No.

[Wulf]

His parents have already told him he can't have it.  I assume they have their reasons.  Maybe they don't have the money, maybe they don't believe he deserves it - maybe they think he should be focusing his energies on his studies rather than flying games.  Whatever the case, I don't think we should be undermining their authority by doing something they've already expressly ruled out.    

[Guest deleted@13284]

His parents have already told him he can't have it.  I assume they have their reasons.  Maybe they don't have the money, maybe they don't believe he deserves it - maybe they think he should be focusing his energies on his studies rather than flying games.  Whatever the case, I don't think we should be undermining their authority by doing something they've already expressly ruled out.    

Best reply so far.

 

I'm a very generous type,I have given away multiple items on a very popular flight sim forum in the past but I draw the line at begging unless that person is in dire need of help.A game isn't covered by that.

[sallee]

His parents have already told him he can't have it.  I assume they have their reasons.  Maybe they don't have the money, maybe they don't believe he deserves it - maybe they think he should be focusing his energies on his studies rather than flying games.  Whatever the case, I don't think we should be undermining their authority by doing something they've already expressly ruled out.

 

Do you know, I think that's the most pertinent point so far.

[Lusekofte]

I have fundraised a home for one friend on internet about to get homeless, I have donated Rudderpedals, joysticks and throttles for several hundreds of $ . I have given internet friends about 800 $. I am probably a fool. But it is my right to choose to be one.I like to help if I can.

And it is something with this guy making me believe he is sincere in his request. A donation of a game is piece of cake , and he probably be a loyal player here.

I think the whole thing is a mix of language barrier and little to none patience. Like all young fellas got.

I really can see myself inpatient not having the opportunity to fly. But it is not good just having it all for free. But I agree, it is not upon us to raise this kid, so we should not judge him.

We can only welcome him to this community 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

If the OP was in response to one of the "game/plane give away" posts from the generous few would the reactions, mostly negative, be the same?  Just wondering.

[TheDog]

Hi Ravindus, you are a new profile, so people do not know you at all, and that is the problem. you could be anybody and ripp off people on internet.

post more useful reply to topics, help the community , show your love to this sim and maybe something good to you will happen. 

People have to know you, to trust you first.

If someone you do not know give you straight a gift with nothing in return , how could you be proud of that and raise the confidence in yourself?

Thanks! But My knowledge is 0 about this game. Is there any way that I could help the community????? Or Do you mean anything else??????

[Neil]

Thanks! But My knowledge is 0 about this game. Is there any way that I could help the community????? Or Do you mean anything else??????

You are welcome and welcome by the way in this community. 

This is a simulation, not arcade game, thus people playing this sim are mostly passionned about world war 2 aircrafts.

Some of them like figthers, others like bombers (or both) or even transport/liaison aircrafts

 

You know nothing about this game? no problem, watch some videos on youtube, (type "IL2 battle" or "IL2 BOS" "IL2 BOM") and you will discover many things.

when I talk about helping the community, it is about participating in this forum: you can simply start by telling your opinion in the dev team updates, and encourage them if you like their work. You will find other opportunities by reading this forum. Do not be shy : people are mostly gentle and it does not matter if you do not own the sim yet.

Edited March 19, 2016 by Neil

[Beazil]

Welcome Ravindus to the community. I hope you enjoy your time here.

[Adler_]

The game is like 7$ on G2A.. lol I think you can save up that much!

[Kling]

I am single, can anyone of you get me a wife? Cheers. I will swop for a copy of BOS (and if she is pretty also BOM)

Why on earth would want to screw up your life by getting wife?

[Uufflakke]

Thanks! But My knowledge is 0 about this game.

 

 

So you want someone to pay you BOS or BOM while you don't know anything about the game itself?

And before starting your 1st post you haven't undertaken any effort to understand what this game is about?

Not having watched any of the hundreds of videos on YouTube? Not looking into the forums, reading the topics, Dev updates etc. before posting?

Simply to find out you might like this sim at all?

 

Just starting a topic and begging for a free copy.

 

I hope that -at least- you know the time frame of the game is WWII, location Russia (Stalingrad/Moscow).

[Mysticpuma]

Why on earth would want to screw up your life by getting wife?

 

Where were you with that sage of wisdom 28-years- ago

[KoN_]

Have you asked on the Russain forums too . ??

 

Or are you asking here because its the EU forum .

 

You can get this very cheap from other websites ,  As already quoted .

However i think you should listen to your parents . No means NO. !!!

Edited March 20, 2016 by II./JG77_Con

[URUAker]

Really can´t understand the overreaction of some ppl.

Who are you to judge? What do you know about the reality of the kids life?

Maybe he is a aerly aviation fan, he got ROF because there is a FREE version! And of course having tried ROF he probably wants to try the WWII version.

 

Smoetimes it looks that some people really can´t or really won´t try to understand what it is like to live in a poor country. They just say work hard and thats it, pfff, you dont know nothing. You don´t know what is like to be months without a job, and when you apply to the simplest job because it is the only one available and they say that you are overqualified.

 

During a harsh economical crisis in 2002 I had 3 jobs, and could not pay the rent, I had to take my wife and kid to live in a closed Hotel, my rent was in dollars and i had debts in dollars, and the dollar doubled its price, banks closed and kept ppl money, interest rates where up to 100%, inflation was huge. so no, just working hard won´t cut it sometimes.

 

I understand if you don´t want to encourage begging, but there is no need to be all condescending, don´t want to give, don´t do it

Edited March 20, 2016 by URUAker

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Really can´t understand the overreaction of some ppl.

Who are you to judge? What do you know about the reality of the kids life?

Maybe he is a aerly aviation fan, he got ROF because there is a FREE version! And of course having tried ROF he probably wants to try the WWII version.

 

Smoetimes it looks that some people really can´t or really won´t try to understand what it is like to live in a poor country. They just say work hard and thats it, pfff, you dont know nothing. You don´t know what is like to be months without a job, and when you apply to the simplest job because it is the only one available and they say that you are overqualified.

 

During a harsh economical crisis in 2002 I had 3 jobs, and could not pay the rent, I had to take my wife and kid to live in a closed Hotel, my rent was in dollars and i had debts in dollars, and the dollar doubled its price, banks closed and kept ppl money, interest rates where up to 100%, inflation was huge. so no, just working hard won´t cut it sometimes.

 

I understand if you don´t want to encourage begging, but there is no need to be all condescending, don´t want to give, don´t do it

 

I'm with you on this. 

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Me too. I've had to pick myself up from the ground, just out of high school and with no experience, living in a Scandinavian capital. Everything worked out fine in the end, but it was a tough year or two and one where I didn't buy myself anything for recreation or entertainment, simply because I needed to pay rent for a crappy room in a flat shared with a drug dealer, a prostitute and a rude pothead old lady. Those times would have been much easier if people I was close to had extended their hand and given a help even with the simplest things like a little game to make the hour or two I had free per day, after working low pay and writing dozens of cover letters, a little brighter. If 'get a job' did miracles poverty would have been eradicated and we would live in an utopia.

 

If you don't want to help the kid or you believe his parents' will should be upheld that's fair, you're not obliged to help. That being said it doesn't give you the right to be rude and play tough parent, spare this to your kids if that's how you treat them.

Edited March 20, 2016 by Lucas_From_Hell

[Rjel]

Why on earth would want to screw up your life by getting wife?

 

The secret, obviously, is to choose properly. Alas, I on the other hand....

 

 

 

As to the original poster, there is a lot to be said to earning what you desire. It's more rewarding and in the long run, it will make you value the sim more once you get it.

Edited March 20, 2016 by Rjel

[TWC_Ace]

- maybe they think he should be focusing his energies on his studies rather than flying games. 

So many cynical replies here, but this one is complete b******t

I studdied and finished one of the toughest universities here...I have high education and Im very good in what Im doing...I was playing good old Il2 Sturmovik to death when I was studying...

 

Give kid a break (thats said if hes not a troll)

 

Like nobody was kid once, here....

 

If you dont want to donate just play the game and spit your bitterness at home...

Edited March 20, 2016 by blackram

[Lusekofte]

Well he asked for a game, and did anyone give a positive feedback on that question?

 

We all had our up and down, I still think this request is out of the blue and rais much more questions than we ever can get a answer to , if not one of his parents do not show up here and say it is ok. Sure I can buy him this game, but if I do would not this be a intervention against his parents wishes?

 

Gentlemen this is the real question, can we buy this game to him against his parents will? 

 

So I say we quit judge and start think, if we know these answers, I buy him this game, if not we ignore this topic 

[Wulf]

Really can´t understand the overreaction of some ppl.

Who are you to judge? What do you know about the reality of the kids life?

Maybe he is a aerly aviation fan, he got ROF because there is a FREE version! And of course having tried ROF he probably wants to try the WWII version.

 

Smoetimes it looks that some people really can´t or really won´t try to understand what it is like to live in a poor country. They just say work hard and thats it, pfff, you dont know nothing. You don´t know what is like to be months without a job, and when you apply to the simplest job because it is the only one available and they say that you are overqualified.

 

During a harsh economical crisis in 2002 I had 3 jobs, and could not pay the rent, I had to take my wife and kid to live in a closed Hotel, my rent was in dollars and i had debts in dollars, and the dollar doubled its price, banks closed and kept ppl money, interest rates where up to 100%, inflation was huge. so no, just working hard won´t cut it sometimes.

 

I understand if you don´t want to encourage begging, but there is no need to be all condescending, don´t want to give, don´t do it

 

 

 

I'm with you on this. 

 

 

 

So many cynical replies here, but this one is complete b******t

I studdied and finished one of the toughest universities here...I have high education and Im very good in what Im doing...I was playing good old Il2 Sturmovik to death when I was studying...

 

Give kid a break (thats said if hes not a troll)

 

Like nobody was kid once, here....

 

If you dont want to donate just play the game and spit your bitterness at home...

 

 

 

Me too. I've had to pick myself up from the ground, just out of high school and with no experience, living in a Scandinavian capital. Everything worked out fine in the end, but it was a tough year or two and one where I didn't buy myself anything for recreation or entertainment, simply because I needed to pay rent for a crappy room in a flat shared with a drug dealer, a prostitute and a rude pothead old lady. Those times would have been much easier if people I was close to had extended their hand and given a help even with the simplest things like a little game to make the hour or two I had free per day, after working low pay and writing dozens of cover letters, a little brighter. If 'get a job' did miracles poverty would have been eradicated and we would live in an utopia.

 

If you don't want to help the kid or you believe his parents' will should be upheld that's fair, you're not obliged to help. That being said it doesn't give you the right to be rude and play tough parent, spare this to your kids if that's how you treat them.

 

 

So go on then; put your money where your mouth is and  buy the kid the game.  Go on.

 

Hey, what about this for an idea.  Maybe you could crowd-fund some sort of trust so that, in future, 'every child' has the opportunity to play flight sims.  This guy probably has friends who'd also like a copy of the game.  It doesn't really seem right that only one kid gets a free copy, so why not fund them all?  When I was a kid we had to do stuff like mow lawns and do gardening jobs and crap like that to raise cash for the stuff we wanted but hey; why should these guys have to do that?  After all, flight sims are a human right.  This kid (assuming he even is a kid) has a God given right to play and I think you're just the guys to make it happen.  

Edited March 21, 2016 by Wulf

[Ala13_Kokakolo]

Topic starter has a good chance he will earn for the one copy of BOS. Even though he is living in a poor country. Looking at your avatar and seeing your reaction to topic matter [Edited]. So nobody can help you there, listillo.

First of all, my reaction was light and friendly, to make a joke about the fact we all need something in our life.

Second, I never insulted anybody or make the point the request was for him, implying anything about his country or the fact he may or may not "earn for the copy" , actually it was address to all.

 

I understand by your reaction you were offended by my words. If that is the case I apologise. Anyway I believe you should count to 10 before write posts personally insulting other members of the forum. Just my opinion. And that last insult in Spanish does also sobra.

[Mac_Messer]

Really can´t understand the overreaction of some ppl.

Who are you to judge? What do you know about the reality of the kids life?

Maybe he is a aerly aviation fan, he got ROF because there is a FREE version! And of course having tried ROF he probably wants to try the WWII version.

(...)

I understand if you don´t want to encourage begging, but there is no need to be all condescending, don´t want to give, don´t do it

You can look at it differently. I know your pov, when original IL2 came out I`d have to work 5 whole business days if I wanted to get it. I didn`t because my parents plain bought me that game back then, but if I wanted to work for it, I`d have to work long and probably hard - around 30 hours. The prices and wages weren`t different when I went to work after finishing my university.  It is easy to get all worked up over this kid`s attitude to get it for free when one had to work for it himself.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Well, OP, my best advice is either wait for one of the sales or wait for one of the community members to make a benevolent gift thread. They happen on occasion and your request will be better received there than the perceived begging of your title. I attribute the negative reactions to a probable language barrier than anything else.

 

To this community. We are already perceived as hostile to outsiders. Looking for possible solutions is probably better than clubbing newbies. Especially when the context is a bit murky.

 

Outside of that, this thread has obviously run it's course.

Edited March 21, 2016 by [LBS]HerrMurf

[Ace_Pilto]

I'm tempted to buy him the  game just to watch everyone flip.

 

Not that tempted though.

[Wulf]

Sure Jim, why not.  Of course, there'll always be those people who wonder why you'd fund this particular guy when there are people out there in real need but then 'you guys' always did have unusual notions about what was and wasn't fair ....cough, cough, [underarm bowling] cough, cough......

 

Been keeping up with the cricket Jim?

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Sure Jim, why not.  Of course, there'll always be those people who wonder why you'd fund this particular guy when there are people out there in real need but then 'you guys' always did have unusual notions about what was and wasn't fair ....cough, cough, [underarm bowling] cough, cough......

 

Been keeping up with the cricket Jim?

 

Never mind this....what's up with your politicians and flying dildos?

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

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[Wulf]

Never mind this....what's up with your politicians and flying dildos?

 

 

Love the expression on the face of the woman at the back.  Sort of like, "where the hell's mine?"

 

Just shameless!

Edited March 23, 2016 by Wulf

[Ace_Pilto]

Been keeping up with the cricket Jim?

 

I haven't really kept up with it since I played in high-school, just watching people get clobbered by that ball makes me wince. Copping a cricket ball to the fingertips on a fresh spring morning is something I don't need in my life anymore. I don't know how I came out of all the sports I played without a serious injury tbh. Lillie had the right idea, he was a obviously being a humanitarian, it's not our fault his gesture was lost on the non cricket playing public. 

[URUAker]

You can look at it differently. I know your pov, when original IL2 came out I`d have to work 5 whole business days if I wanted to get it. I didn`t because my parents plain bought me that game back then, but if I wanted to work for it, I`d have to work long and probably hard - around 30 hours. The prices and wages weren`t different when I went to work after finishing my university.  It is easy to get all worked up over this kid`s attitude to get it for free when one had to work for it himself.

Mac I know what you are saying, right now i can not give the OP anything, and even if I could i don´t know if I would. But in the worst case i would just ignore the thread. What got me is the harsh, patronising and even racist responses. And the fact that some ppl just won´t get out to see out their boxes that there are other realities, there are places where you can´t mow your neighbors lawn because there are no lawn around, no errands to run, etc, sometimes and for a big big percentage of the world population will power and hard work are not enough.

And Wulf up here is a clear case, he quoted 3 post that he obviously didn,t read because there is no one saying that someone must pay for the kids game, so I don´t know where he came up with all that funding and God given rights nonsense, what I do know is that no matter how hard you try to explain it to that kind of people they will never see another way, and i find that very sad. And not worth trying.

[Ace_Pilto]

Never mind this....what's up with your politicians and flying dildos?

 

I guess they've finally found a use for them. 

 

Politicians that is.

[Wulf]

Mac I know what you are saying, right now i can not give the OP anything, and even if I could i don´t know if I would. But in the worst case i would just ignore the thread. What got me is the harsh, patronising and even racist responses. And the fact that some ppl just won´t get out to see out their boxes that there are other realities, there are places where you can´t mow your neighbors lawn because there are no lawn around, no errands to run, etc, sometimes and for a big big percentage of the world population will power and hard work are not enough.

And Wulf up here is a clear case, he quoted 3 post that he obviously didn,t read because there is no one saying that someone must pay for the kids game, so I don´t know where he came up with all that funding and God given rights nonsense, what I do know is that no matter how hard you try to explain it to that kind of people they will never see another way, and i find that very sad. And not worth trying.

 

 

Maybe you should read what the kid actually said.  He doesn't say his parents can't afford the game, he says "he cannot force them to buy it" for him.  So who the hell gave you the right to go around interfering with the family's dynamics.  You have absolutely no idea what's going on here anymore than I do and yet you somehow believe it's appropriate to interfere and second guess the parent's decision.

 

And by the way, you can drop the bs insinuation about racism as well.  You're  the one who seems to be suggesting that Asian parents can't be trusted to make appropriate decisions about their children and you seem to be the one suggesting that because these people are Asian they must therefore be impoverished.  Maybe you need to have a hard look at yourself in the mirror before branding other people as racist. 

Edited March 24, 2016 by Wulf

[URUAker]

Maybe you should read what the kid actually said.  He doesn't say his parents can't afford the game, he says "he cannot force them to buy it" for him.  So who the hell gave you the right to go around interfering with the family's dynamics.  You have absolutely no idea what's going on here anymore than I do and yet you somehow believe it's appropriate to interfere and second guess the parent's decision.

 

And by the way, you can drop the bs insinuation about racism as well.  You're  the one who seems to be suggesting that Asian parents can't be trusted to make appropriate decisions about their children and you seem to be the one suggesting that because these people are Asian they must therefore be impoverished.  Maybe you need to have a hard look at yourself in the mirror before branding other people as racist. 

 

Soooo...? You are hilarious Mr. "interfering with the family's dynamics."??? How? please enlighten me, because what i said is that instead of posting negative comments just ignore the thread, so how does ignoring the thread will  interfer with the family´s dynamics? please elaborate.

 

And I never call you a racist so hold your horses, I was refering to this post down here...

 

....

Remember this Comic? It just might have a bit of trurtth in it.

 

 

... Bloody hell.

 

 

 

Apologies accepted

[FuriousMeow]

ravindus, I do recommend securing a job if you can. It will help you pay for your own things and you'll be able to enjoy a lot more without having to rely on others for handouts or ask others for something.

 

However, for some reason I have an extra copy of BoS. If you don't have BoS yet send me a PM and I'll get you the key. And you better use it. I have 3 other keys I sent that are still not activated and that is a little frustrating since they are Early Access which means they were sent over a year ago and haven't been used.

Edited March 28, 2016 by FuriousMeow

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

That's weird. I gifted about ten keys over the last couple of years, mostly aircraft, and they were all activated same day.

[FuriousMeow]

It is very strange, it appeared the individuals were genuinely interested in a copy I thought.

 

After this long, however, I am curious as if they lost interest due to the atmosphere surrounding BoS at the time and all of the bad, albeit a significant portion being intentionally malicious towards the title/devs back then due to some very odd online version of an attempt to destroy a new game I've ever seen (it's actually the first time I've ever seen anything so hateful by some very "off" individuals in air combat sims and I've been playing MMP since Confirmed Kill v.94), and were going to check back later to see if things improved - which they obviously have - or if it was something else that sounds conspiracy-ish but, again, considering the tumultuous environment back then kind of makes sense in that some individuals were creating multiple accounts to grab up any give-aways to prevent truly interested parties from getting any of the free keys. I'll freely admit, that sounds so unhinged it makes me scratch my head but then again - looking back at the campaign against BoS during those days, and still to this day I see a bit of it, it isn't that far fetched and is even more depressing that it even happened.

 

But, I hope that ravindus can get into BoS, and hopefully he'll be able to get BoM as well.

 

Offer still stands ravindus, if you don't have a key for BoS - I have a Premium Early Access key. (Just don't want that lost in case he checks back)

Edited March 29, 2016 by FuriousMeow

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I stopped flying for about two mos during EA because it was so toxic and the Fw interior was so off. The game and forums were really depressing. It wouldn't surprise me if a couple of those guys did that. It was, overall, a bizarre attempt at sabotage.

 

Glad the Devs got past it. Really happy with both arenas now and looking forward to to future development.

Edited March 29, 2016 by [LBS]HerrMurf