Thank you for the Emil in its BoS environment.

[Yakdriver]

hey Team,

The 1946 Emil used to be ugly, have a lot of edges, It seemed, like the Mig-3, to be a Plane trapped in too little polygones.
did not have the appeal of the Friedrich, and was, in my mind the ugly stepchild of the WWII Luftwaffle.

 

In CFS3, FS9 or even recently in FSX, i saw many Emils come, and immediately be ditched or relegated to hangar queen status.

Same with the CLoD version, which i never really got into.
every time i even looked at it, something in my head screamt "vade retro, retro vade" or "take your MG-FF and Get the hell off my hard drive"

 

 

 

Too many air intakes, lumps and bumps along the Cowling..., still ugly AF whilst being Technically  much better represented than ever before.

This local page on Emil Skins though...

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/18965-bf-109-e7-skins/page-8

Shows me the same damn plane with a Propeller cone, and no other Visual changes...
and the way she stands in the Grass, the Environment she moves and thrives in... the way you make her look...

I won´t cheat on my LaGG for an Emil.
Not yet.
But damn, that is the nicest Emil i have ever seen.
I no longer hate that piece of trash, and might one day fly her in a Campaign as a Jabo.

I see her in a different light as a result of your massive, continued, combined efforts.

Thank you.
Keep making these planes, because i like how they turn out.

Thank you tons.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

I no longer hate that piece of trash.

 

One of the best aviation-related comments I've ever seen in my life

 

From the other side of the fence, I grew up on the Emil and never quite understood the appeal of the Friedrich - it was as if it had grown a big ugly nose. But indeed other Emils in different sims never quite looked as nice as the real thing, until this one. The team's done a great job

[Trooper117]

Out of all the 109 variants, the Emil has always been my favourite... Stylish with a hint of brute thrown in...

[LLv24_Zami]

Yeah, in my mind it is the most legendary Bf-109 from childhood comic books. And team has made great job in modeling it.

[6./ZG26_Gielow]

Emil is a killer 

[Finkeren]

Only 109 I fly regularly. It's nothing but great fun.

[Lusekofte]

Yes same here , it is one of 3 Luftwaffe planes I bother to fly, I never been extremely picky, I only see the wrong when others pick it out. But you got a point, it is truly a great model. But the Emils in COD are also nice, so it is not alone

[wtornado]

The Emil is the nicest flying German aircraft in this sim.

[Gort]

The Emil is the nicest flying German aircraft in this sim.

 

 

It is pretty nice. Much better handling than the P40 for example. 

 

Did the early Emil's not have the nose cannon? When did that mod arrive?

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

The early Emils had it, but it was eventually removed in the E-4 I think due to unreliability.

[LukeFF]

Emils (E-2s, specifically) with a nose-mounted cannon were very few in number.

[Finkeren]

The Bf 109E was originally planned to feature an engine mounted 20mm cannon. However very few were built this way due to the lack of a proper gun. Basically they waited for the MG 151 to become available in numbers.

 

The MG-FF and its derivatives proved impractical and unreliable when mounted as "motorkanone", in part because of the trouble of fitting the large drum magazine in the engine compartment.

 

The MG 151 was a perfect fit for engine mounting however.

[Freycinet]

I wrote this about the Messerschmitt eleven years ago on another forum, and it stills holds true to me:

 

And, yup, when I think of the 109 it is mainly the Emil for me.

 

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I'm not a special fan of the Messerschmitt Bf-109. I don't want to fly only that plane, I don't think it is the most beautiful plane of WWII, and I don't think it was the best fighter of the war.

Still, however, I have to recognise that it does have something special. Its huge following among FB flyers attest to that. But what is it?

Is it the looks? Not pretty, not sexy, not slick and elegant, but... ruthless. Edgy, efficient-looking, business-like, masculine (penis-shaped?!), hard, powerful. Call it what you will, but the looks of the Bf-109 do have a certain rough and deadly aesthetic to them. A weapon is meant to look squarish, metallic, heavy and hard. No damsel-like elliptical wing planforms and bulbous canopies here, please. We want our fighter to look like a killer.

So, is it the culture the 109s sprang from? Is it a nazi thrill, a fascination with that modern-day Sparta, a warrior-state that wanted to conquer the world and ended up holding out much longer than could be expected against overwhelming odds, due to supremely well-built machinery such as the Bf-109? - Well, I hope that's not a big part of the attraction that many feel towards the 109, for Nazi-Germany was truly an evil state, that deserves no more than our heartfelt disgust.

Still, the 109 was the mount of pilots that excelled in their field. It produced numbers of kills that have never been matched, and never will be matched.

Maybe the fascination the Messer awakens is due to its superior armament, those massive cannons that outgunned all opposition in the early days of the war, and was carried to almost ridiculous extremes in the later war years, when it flew against US bombers. Everyone who flies the 109 in FB will feel a great satisfaction at the seemingly effortless manner in which it shreds the opposition to pieces, compared to lesser-armed fighters. Instant destruction, instant gratification.

Or maybe it is because of the fighting style the 109 calls for from its pilots. Slashing attacks from high up, preferably out of the sun. A fast dive, a deadly hail of bullets and gone and away before the enemy even registers its presence. Fighters are for turning and twisting and protracted battles, but the 109 is not really a fighter, it is too fragile for that. It is a "Jäger": a HUNTER who waits for the right moment, stalks his prey and kills it efficiently and quickly.

There are many explanations for the fascination that the Bf-109 engenders, and the truth probably is that it arises from many different factors, not just one.

Do you agree that the Messer is something special, maybe not to you, but certainly to very many others? - Do you have other explanations for its mystique? - I'd like to hear from the discerning SimHQ crowd on this!

 

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[Rjel]

This was the book that fueled my imagination regarding the Bf109E. It's a great book for anyone who hasn't read it. I've nearly worn out the paperback that my dad bought. I bought a first edition hard cover in excellent condition that had been used as a reviewer's copy. It still contained a typewriter written summery and a piece of paper with the publisher's well wishes to some unknown reviewer. The publication date is written as April 3, 1956. Sadly, the hard cover edition's jacket art isn't nearly as cool nor dramatic as the paperback. Still, it's a very good read.    

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

One of the many reasons why I'm glad they decided to follow up Stalingrad with the Moscow battle is that they were able to add planes like the Emil. I'm fascinated by the 109 just as much as I am by the other types out there so I don't think I hold it in a special place but for the sake of having the progression from one model to another... I'm so happy to have the E-7. It adds a lot to both scenarios as it doubles down as a fighter-bomber two years after its prime as a fighter. It's great for variety, its so much fun to fly, and clearly there are a bunch of people out here who are really appreciating having it.

 

Lots of reasons to enjoy having the Emil at the party!

[Mac_Messer]

I don`t have BoM but I hope the Emil is modelled somewhat differently in it than in Cliffs of Dover. I`ve tried all sorts of convergence settings on the MG/FF and I can barely hit anything, ever. I know it has relatively low rate of fire but geez....never had such a problem with it in any of the earlier games.

 

As for my opinion on the 109E, I might respect it as the most real 109 of them all, as it is both good climber and turner, although I never was a fan of wing mounted guns and as I absolutely love the MK108 firing through the propeller and a 1943-1944 period of WWII, my Messerschmitt of choice is the 109G6 preferably the early types.

Edited February 28, 2016 by Mac_Messer

[Falco_Peregrinus]

I don`t have BoM but I hope the Emil is modelled somewhat differently in it than in Cliffs of Dover. I`ve tried all sorts of convergence settings on the MG/FF and I can barely hit anything, ever. I know it has relatively low rate of fire but geez....never had such a problem with it in any of the earlier games.

 

As for my opinion on the 109E, I might respect it as the most real 109 of them all, as it is both good climber and turner, although I never was a fan of wing mounted guns and as I absolutely love the MK108 firing through the propeller and a 1943-1944 period of WWII, my Messerschmitt of choice is the 109G6 preferably the early types.

 

I, like others before me commented here, also think that Emil is (much IMO) better looking than the later 109 variants.

Very "rough" and man-like. It seems more a war machine than the sleek F for example.

 

​But I gotta agree on wing mounted guns... on any plane.. I just loathe them. Much better a pair of light or HMS hopefully supplanted by a  single cannon all grouped in the longitudinal axis.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

The E to me looks iconic but not as good as the F aero wise!! And the G and k look just over engineered!!

I'm on my phone so cant add pictures.

 

Can someone put a pic of Hope Faith and Charity.

 

Its a brilliant read!!!!

Edited February 29, 2016 by AeroACE