How one Congressman killed 800 US sailors

[Cybermat47]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_J._May#The_May_Incident

 

How can somebody be this stupid?! Between this idiot and the Bureau of Navy Ordnance ("there's nothing wrong with the torpedoes, start using them properly"), I'd say that the US Silent Service was in more danger from REMFs than the IJN

 

"I hear Congressman May said the (Japanese) depth charges are not set deep enough. He would be pleased to know (they) set them deeper now."

- Vice Admiral Charles A. Lockwood, COMSUBPAC

[Feathered_IV]

I've read about that a couple of times.  One thing I've never seen is May's comments on the incident afterwards. 

Edited February 15, 2016 by Feathered_IV

[unreasonable]

The British had a similar problem in the Falklands when an MoD spokesman stated - in the middle of continuous Argie air attacks - that some ships were escaping serious damage because the Argies were setting their fuzes too long. Stupidity under pressure rather than malice I am sure.

 

Eagerly reported by the BBC for the world to hear of course: I am not so certain of the beeb's motivations.

[johncage]

the modern incarnation of these retards are people like julian assange, whose affinity for spilling the beans takes precedence over the secrets they might compromise, and the lives that may be lost as a result.

[Bando]

Well, johncage, without trying to derail this thread, I disagree with you there.

That's all I want to say about it.

[Dakpilot]

He is not that different

 

" A reporter worried that Assange would risk killing Afghans who had co-operated with American forces if he put US secrets online without taking the basic precaution of removing their names. "Well, they're informants," Assange replied. "So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it." A silence fell on the table as the reporters realised that the man the gullible hailed as the pioneer of a new age of transparency was willing to hand death lists to psychopaths. They persuaded Assange to remove names before publishing the State Department Afghanistan cables. But Assange's disillusioned associates suggest that the failure to expose "informants" niggled in his mind."

 

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian-assange-wikileaks-nick-cohen

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[unreasonable]

Assange is a tough one to judge. Overall his publishing information may have done more good than harm, but it certainly did harm. Sometimes it takes a narcissistic creep to stand up to the man.

 

Snowden:  a similar case? Perhaps more idealistic.

 

Usually you can discriminate - exposure of information that is unacceptable in times of war may be helpful in exposing bureaucratic inertia or corruption in  times of peace. The problem is when governments claim that we are at war all the time: laws meant to protect the state against enemy states are used to cover up unlawful or corrupt actions by organs of the state against its own citizens. 

 

Welcome to 1984.

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

Poilticians and some burocrats are known to be exempt from being smart. Or to put it another way, most just don't care as long as they have something to help them pump hot air over the news.

 

This is just MY opinion .... nothing else

 

Chief

[coconut]

Then there's that: http://wlcentral.org/node/2363

 

I don't know where the truth lies, but I would say don't mind the Assange character, only look at what WikyLeaks publishes, and what the various govts do. Our governments are much more of a threat to us than terrorists or "traitors" will ever be.

[Feathered_IV]

Poilticians and some burocrats are known to be exempt from being smart. Or to put it another way, most just don't care as long as they have something to help them pump hot air over the news.

 

 

Rat cunning also seems to be a common trait among politicians.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Then there's that: http://wlcentral.org/node/2363

 

I don't know where the truth lies, but I would say don't mind the Assange character, only look at what WikyLeaks publishes, and what the various govts do. Our governments are much more of a threat to us than terrorists or "traitors" will ever be.

 

People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people