Key mapping nightmare

[MeisterBoelcke]

Hi folks.

 Love the game but  ever since I purchased it I cannot play it.

 It  is seemingly  impossible to get  my game controllers to function properly in the game

 I have in the setup, the  Logitech 3d Extreme Joystick and the Saitek Pro Flight rudder controller.

   They work fine in ROF  but in IL2 BOS i is pure madness .

 The problems are as follows.

 

1) when I setup the keymapping for the pitch and roll, they then  " invert: in the game, so simple  right just go back to the  key mapping and  click  " invert"..right?   Wrong.. it  freezes up an now I have no control

2)  the same thing happens to the pitch

 

3) The Yaw i for the rudder works fine

4) head movements  ie on the  joysrick is  the top button that can be rolled to  8 different directions, so simple right... so  click into key mapping..setup    head horizontal, joystick button  p 90 and p270

 likewise with   head movement vertical.. so no problem right... wrong..   in fact  again nothing happens or the head only move in one direction

5) throttle control is also inverted.

 

 Bottom line, game is a  total nightmare to setup, so basically I haven't played it.

 

Why doesn't Studio 777 have controller map profiles that you can load like many other games?

 

 So if anyone has had similar issues I'd  like to know, maybe you could help?

 

 Thanks

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Lol just click the swap "invert" axis button

I can set up most common devices in 10 mins. Drop me a pm if u àre stuçk

Edited January 15, 2016 by [TBC]AeroACE

[216th_Jordan]

Lol just click the swap "invert" axis button

I can set up most common devices in 10 mins. Drop me a pm if u àre stuçk

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he wrote that it freezez up when he does that.

 

I'm sorry i'm not sure I can help you, but sometimes it works to set the axis and move the controller in the opposite direction to configure, that way a minus should appear in front of the axis name.

[LLv44_Damixu]

I full-heartedly agree the original poster. This sim is a nightmare to set-up different controllers and key setups without losing rest of my hair on my head. This repells me to get exited this sim and I know several other friends of my to have the same feeling about this controller/keymapping challenge.

 

I guess, one way to address this issue might be to provide predefined controller specific profiles. Fortunately there are not that many valid controllers on the market what simmers are using currently.

To narrow down the workload, maybe you should make an poll where the results would reveal what kind of controllers are been used on this sim community. Based on the poll results, you could provide predefined setups for identified controllers.

Edited January 15, 2016 by Damixu

[Jade_Monkey]

Have you guys tried mapping the keys using the software provided by Saitek, Logitech or whoever your manufacturer is?

 

I have no issues with the Saitek one.

[Brano]

Having different flying hardware since 2013 first early access (Saitek Evo joy,Saitek rudder pedals,Saitek throttle quadrant and VKB Cobra M5 joy) I never experienced such "nightmare" situations.Every component worked right-first-time.

[216th_Jordan]

I full-heartedly agree the original poster. This sim is a nightmare to set-up different controllers and key setups without losing rest of my hair on my head. This repells me to get exited this sim and I know several other friends of my to have the same feeling about this controller/keymapping challenge.

 

I guess, one way to address this issue might be to provide predefined controller specific profiles. Fortunately there are not that many valid controllers on the market what simmers are using currently.

To narrow down the workload, maybe you should make an poll where the results would reveal what kind of controllers are been used on this sim community. Based on the poll results, you could provide predefined setups for identified controllers.

really? I found the setup to be relativly easy, except, when invert doesn't change thats a problem.

[Sunde]

Never had any issues setting up my joysticks, i dont understand the issue... Do you find the menu too hard to navigate?? Or does the game freeze up?
 

[KoN_]

Delete all input  and key setting with in the game .. !!  and start from scratch , make a back up first before you remove files or delete .

You have twist rudder and rudder pedals . maybe there is a conflict .  

[MeisterBoelcke]

Never had any issues setting up my joysticks, i dont understand the issue... Do you find the menu too hard to navigate?? Or does the game freeze up?

 

 the menu is very detailed and easy to read. It simply does not  match or comply with my keymap  inputs.. example... throttle.  then the throttle  IS working  but  inverted, hit the invert button to " fix"  problem, now  it doesn't work at all.

   2) select pitch.. ok  fine  I move the joystick as it suggests in the dialogue box,   when I look at the ": curve" it looks   fine, up goes up and down goes down.... click save...    go back to  plane...    up goes down  down goes up..wtf?  So ok all I need to do is  click "invert " tab..right?  Wrong   it now  stops functioning  all together.... nuts.. The plane is un- flyable.   We haven't even gotten to the head/view/ position   for the pilot..   ..which is another nightmare.

 

 I've decided to try with the joystick 1rst see if I make any progress and then add the pedals later.. I hate to think what would happen if I have the full deal of multiple controllers  what would happen?

Delete all input  and key setting with in the game .. !!  and start from scratch , make a back up first before you remove files or delete .

You have twist rudder and rudder pedals . maybe there is a conflict .  

 Thats exactly my next move , thanks for the recommendations.

[Sokol1]

 the menu is very detailed and easy to read. It simply does not  match or comply with my keymap  inputs.. example... throttle.  then the throttle  IS working  but  inverted, hit the invert button to " fix"  problem, now  it doesn't work at all.  

 

Notice that when you click over the "Invert" box and the inversion happen, the box change his color from light gray to white.

 

click image upload

 

In this example I have the joystick throttle axis mapped for Engine Throttle, Vehicle (tank) acceleration/brakes, Propeller Pitch(+LWin)*, Mixture(+LCtrl)*.

 

For engine and propeller pitch the axis are inverted (white), and for mixture no (light gray).

Curiosity the axis assigned for mixture dont respond in the "curve" adjust, but work in game... 

 

*This multiple assignment (throttle, prop pitch, mixture) is just for test, work OK in game but don't result practical, as when you adjust prop pitch/mixture the throttle change too for the same (joystick throttle) position when the modifier key is released.

Edited November 16, 2016 by Sokol1

[MeisterBoelcke]

update.

 

 OK   With just the  Logitech 3d Extreme I have managed to at least  fly. Taking off with the FW is near impossible, easier  but almost AS impossible with the BF 109.

 The Key Map  continuously keeps inverting  everything everytime  I make a change  lets say to YAW, then the  PITCH  gets inverted, its really maddening

 

I think I will post another thread on the flyability of the aircraft, the FW  sways erratically to the left  either because of wind gusts or its  "nose heavy"...very  finicky  aircraft to fly.

  Right now the WW1 biplanes are easier to fly than these WW2 machines, they seem to want sway madly to the left or right.

 

 The other thing I notice is that despite the fact I have my engines at 100%, the " enemy" is always 100 or 200 m ahead and above, and I can never get close to him. In real world this is simply not possible. This happens in both ROF and IL2 Sturmovik BOS, anyone have an explanation?

[=MS=Falcon60]

I agree with the original poster.  I'm an experienced simmer with 15 years in different sims and with different controls.  I'm currently using the Saitek X52 and can't get some of the controls to link with my joystick...especially when they include the "Shift" key i.e. F for flaps works but Sh F does not.  Also, the button I have set up for oil temp only works half the time.  I have zero key mapping issues in DCS, FSX, even old IL-2.

[Quax]

It did work for me (after getting used to it) up to v2.004.  But now it is all messed up with 2.005. Don't get it to react to my throttle at all, even it is recognized in the setup - in game it doesn't move.  Waiting for the hotfix ...

 

EDIT: after the third restart it just began to work. Didn´t change anything ....

Edited November 16, 2016 by Quax