Matt Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 The LaGG-3 will most likely be outperformed in all possible areas by a very noticeable margin. If you want to fight German fighters in BoS, you should wait for the Yak-1 and La-5. And even in those planes, it will be hard enough. The LaGG-3 will probably work in the fighter-bomber or bomber-interceptor role, even though the other Russian planes can be superior in those roles aswell. Atleast you should try to find some wingmen.
senseispcc Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 The Lagg-3 is like the Hurricane during the battle of Britain outclassed but still a very usseful machine in the hands of a capable pilot.
VA_NAVY Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I repeat myself, it is amazing what happens to the psyche of combat flight simmers whilst waiting for a game to be released. "Idle hands are the Devil's playthings" 2
VBF-12_Stick-95 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 The biggest difference between the LaGG and the 109 will be the gratification one feels in a LaGG when you get a kill knowing how "inferior" your aircraft is.
=RvE=Windmills Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Later LaGGs were underrated in Il2, their biggest issue by far was their obscenely poor back visibility, which it doesn't have in BoS according to footage out. It turns relatively well against Fs as long as you don't sustain the turn for too long. Its biggest disadvantage seemed to be weight, while it turns quite well it bleeds a lot of energy with every manoeuvre which is hard to regain. In a DF you constantly needed to trade alt for energy to keep your manoeuvrability up. The thing that defined the later versions though was the 23mm cannon though. Excellent ballistics and fire rate with low recoil, while still retaining 1 hit kill ability. The entire game with the LaGG was just getting your sights on the 109 once and it would be over, which was definately possible against 109 drivers who weren't completely on top of their game. Edited November 17, 2013 by iLOVEwindmills
Hunziker Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Rata, rata, wherefore art thou my little Rat??? Oh how I would love to have my little 109 killer 1
Karost Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) I agree to lerning and master LaGG it is not easy but challenge imho : Player vs Player is an Art beyond the machine advantage there still has other element to concern. - Team work is other option. as other friends said. - Pilot skill and experience is major option I think old hand LW friends seem no problem for this point for trying LaGG. - gunnery skill is advantage option for friends who has deflection shooting skill becuase LaGG gun look interesing to try. - situation awareness experience .... like know how to put him self on advantage position at per-combat state .... - ? S! Edited November 17, 2013 by Karost
Hunziker Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Not particularly enthralled about the LaGG . The sim , yes, but not a machine that feels constantly on the verge of a stall. My personal feelings ,that's all.
Sokol1 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Another LaGG disadvantage: Bf.109 (virtual) pilots are specialized in this model for several years ... Sokol1
Finkeren Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Another LaGG disadvantage: Bf.109 (virtual) pilots are specialized in this model for several years ... Sokol1 Well won't that be the case the other way around with the hundreds of crack LaGG pilots, who flew the early Lavochkin planes to perfection in IL2? I'm party joking, but I have met some really good LaGG pilots over the years, who flew those machines almost exclusively. In any case, I very much doubt that experience on one specific plane type in the old IL2 will translate into überness on that same type in BoS, the sims are just too different.
DD_bongodriver Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Someone had a sense of humour failure after take off, I thought FSM's post was a joke the moment I read it.
Bearcat Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 And YOU are a MODERATOR ? YOUR post was "Off Topic",Condescending,and PERSONAL !...You should Ban "yourself " You are a JERK !...~S~ Sorry man.. under no circumstances will that bird fly on this board. This is one reason why we have the smiley faces and the ability to manipulate what we type with bold text or itallics.. In some cases still thinsg get misinterpreted.. Well won't that be the case the other way around with the hundreds of crack LaGG pilots, who flew the early Lavochkin planes to perfection in IL2? I'm party joking, but I have met some really good LaGG pilots over the years, who flew those machines almost exclusively. In any case, I very much doubt that experience on one specific plane type in the old IL2 will translate into überness on that same type in BoS, the sims are just too different. I agree... 110%
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 18, 2013 1CGS Posted November 18, 2013 Personally, I find the letter S surrounded by two tildes condescending to good grammar.
FlatSpinMan Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I was fairly surprised at the response too, but what the hell. Should have thrown a smiley in there somewhere.
=BLW=Pablo Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) I repeat myself, it is amazing what happens to the psyche of combat flight simmers whilst waiting for a game to be released. "Idle hands are the Devil's playthings" great words!!! Another LaGG disadvantage: Bf.109 (virtual) pilots are specialized in this model for several years ... Sokol1 it is true maybe 3000 hours or more on 109 Edited November 18, 2013 by PabloSniper
JG1_Pragr Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I don't think the Lagg situation in BoS will be so hopeless as it seems on "paper". First, none of us haven't seem the game yet. The "real" data comparison could be quite different to what we will see in game. I can use an example from RoF. Camel was historically famous as slow plane, unable to run out of fights even if its opponent was really slow Albatros. In RoF it can outdive the Pfalz D.XII. On the other hand, based on RoF experience even in outclassed Albatroses (particularly the D.Va) it's still possible to win. You have to forget about flying low and slow with no brain of course, but still it's possible.
=BLW=Pablo Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 there is only one exit for pilot LAGG, pray that 109 pilot is a rookie. pray that your wingman comes fast. pray pray and pray
Finkeren Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 The LaGGs main problem is, that in BoS it will be up against 3 of the most modern and capable fighters of the period. With further expansions we might well see battles against Bf-109Es, IAR-80/81 and Macchi 200s, which might be on more even footing, at least when it comes to performance. If we use RoF as coparision, I don't think that the LaGG will be the D.H.2 as much as the Nieuport 17. Not the easiest plane to fly, and neither the best performer but quite nimble and capable in the right hands.
bivalov Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 The LaGG-3 will most likely be outperformed in all possible areas by a very noticeable margin. If you want to fight German fighters in BoS, you should wait for the Yak-1 and La-5. And even in those planes, it will be hard enough. well, i can remember only one test of 29 series (ie, at least, with non-retractable tailwhell and slats), JtD posted his, but personally i never saw FULL report, which now have developers... i only can guess, by some rumors, that in turntime lagg was not so bad, like g-2 and even f-4... ie really sucsessful can be only typical turnfights, moreover, in manual for lagg-3 many little things which complicate full fight... about la-5, we just dont know which series will be in game, early planes (before 9-10 series) not better or even worse then lagg... but these planes fought and were burned mainly in summer-autumn'42, so... nimble yak-1 with high gargrot and PF looks like best choice, with quite fast and lightweight la-5/la-5f type 37 after 9-10 series... yak-9/yak-1b/la-5 type 39/p-40/p-39 at this moment it's just empty dreams... in total, i think too, it's will be very hard, especially against g-2/a-3 1.42 ata and without mg-ff, but it's only my opinion and fast estimations... can be surprises, including special lightweight yak-1... but i absolutely sure - SH-37 it will be fun...
Dormouse Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I was fairly surprised at the response too, but what the hell. Should have thrown a smiley in there somewhere. Ever wondered why on TV laughboxes became a must? The LaGGs main problem is, that in BoS it will be up against 3 of the most modern and capable fighters of the period. With further expansions we might well see battles against Bf-109Es, IAR-80/81 and Macchi 200s, which might be on more even footing, at least when it comes to performance. If we use RoF as coparision, I don't think that the LaGG will be the D.H.2 as much as the Nieuport 17. Not the easiest plane to fly, and neither the best performer but quite nimble and capable in the right hands. As far as it is not up against them at the same time...
ACG_Dickie Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 The obvious answer is to outnumber them by several to 1. It's what Uncle Joe did.
Finkeren Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 The obvious answer is to outnumber them by several to 1. It's what Uncle Joe did.Soviet-Zerg-rush FTW!!!
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