=BKHZ=Furbs Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Ermmmm.....really not sure about this...looks a bit iffy to me, which is surprising considering its from the BOB chaps. Edited November 14, 2013 by =BKHZ=Furbs
ATAG_Slipstream Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 I thought it was doing ok until the one B17 jumped on the back of the other one.Will see how this one turns out, but if its like Redtails I'll give it a miss...
Cybermat47 Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) I'll stick to good upcoming movies about the Eighth Airforce, thank you very much, upcoming movies like A Higher Call. I thought it was doing ok until the one B17 jumped on the back of the other one.I thought it was going OK until the entire Luftwaffe appeared. I haven't got a problem with CGI, as I doubt that anyone would be able to afford 1,000 B-17 bombers. But when they do over-the-top stuff like this, it annoys me. The movie just looks like your typical 'Glorious Americans fighting Fanatical Nazis' film. And has anyone made a movie about the night-bombing campaign of the RAF, RCAF and RAAF? Apart from the Australian War Memorial of course. This is how you do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_apTD-4hxM Edited November 14, 2013 by Cybermat47 1
LLv44_Mprhead Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 Well, it's a teaser. I still have rather high hopes about it. After all, Band of Brothers and The Pacific were both quite alright.
=LD=Hethwill Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) I kind of like it. Has something "bande designeé" about its looks. ( goes back and digs old pocket comics on ww2 ) Edited November 14, 2013 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan
Cybermat47 Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 I kind of like it. Has something "bande designeé" about its looks. It does look very brutal, which is good for WWII... but that many German fighters? If they had those numbers, we'd all greet each other with a 'Heil Hitler'
LLv44_Mprhead Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 here's some numbers: http://sturmvogel.orbat.com/LWJul42.html#May43 and here you can also find some related info http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweinfurt-Regensburg_mission
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted November 14, 2013 Author Posted November 14, 2013 I don't think anyone doesn't expect a fair amount of CGI from the series but going by that clip, i expected better. It just looked silly the way the 2 B17s stayed locked together like that, and the what looked like a 100 LW fighters coming in together for a head on attack looked straight out of a comic book. If that is a teaser for what to expect, then im not going to build my hopes up to much. The Pacific was no where near BOB quality i thought, i hoped TM8 was going to match BOB, i guess we will have to hope that scene doesn't represent the overall quality of the series.
Bearcat Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 I thought it was doing ok until the one B17 jumped on the back of the other one.Will see how this one turns out, but if its like Redtails I'll give it a miss... I don;t think anything can be as bad as Redtails... one of the worst scripts I have ever heard.. wooden acting... a soundtrack that was chintzy at best.. the best part about it was seeing the Redtailed Mustangs.. but there was no substance.. Well, it's a teaser. I still have rather high hopes about it. After all, Band of Brothers and The Pacific were both quite alright. Me too... I think it will be pretty good.
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 15, 2013 1CGS Posted November 15, 2013 And has anyone made a movie about the night-bombing campaign of the RAF, RCAF and RAAF? Apart from the Australian War Memorial of course. This is how you do it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_apTD-4hxM It's an American film meant firstly for an American audience. Like it or not, movies about foreign air forces just aren't going to wash over here. Aviation movies have a hard enough time as it is getting the details right when it comes to American air combat.
Cybermat47 Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) It's an American film meant firstly for an American audience. Like it or not, movies about foreign air forces just aren't going to wash over here. Aviation movies have a hard enough time as it is getting the details right when it comes to American air combat.Fair enough. Edited November 15, 2013 by Cybermat47
LLv44_Mprhead Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 what looked like a 100 LW fighters coming in together for a head on attack looked straight out of a comic book. Luckily I have never been in the receiving end of 100 LW fighters attack, so I don't know how it looks like But numbers don't seem that off to me, if you take Sweinfurt mission for example, there was hundreds of LW fighters involved. And attack from the front was one of the preferred methods. Also at that time, fighter escort was not available for American bombers, so LW was able to attack at will. The way that was most convinient for them. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how it turns out to be. Lord knows there ain't too many good tv-series/movies made about WWII air war lately...
Rjel Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 All I can say to the criticism of the trailer is that I think it's premature to consider it indicative of the final film. As to whether or not the trailer portrays an accurate picture of an attack on a bomber stream, I'd suggest watching All the Fine Young Men. In particular, listen to Bob Sheons' comments at about 37 minutes in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE_Y4zRxq88 I had the good fortune a couple of years ago to trade a few emails with Mr. Shoens. I was rather surprised to find he lived only a few miles away from me. He seemed like a very decent man, much as he comes across in the documentary. I hope he's still with us and well.
MiloMorai Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 It is going to be a fantastic movie because it is pure fantasy. The 8th AF missions were to France and Holland in 1942. http://www.usaaf.net/chron/42/dec42.htm
LLv44_Mprhead Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Apparently BoS is also going to be really bad, you know, cinematic trailer didn't look at all realistic
LLv44_Mprhead Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 The thing is, movie can be good even if it's not historically accurate. Some of the best movies I have seen have been totally fictional... Still, this here explains a lot:http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/aviation-history-general/film-mighty-eighth-2014-trailer-363107/
FlatSpinMan Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 The date seemed a but early but other than that it looked like a reasonable representation. It's a bit exaggerated perhaps but they're trying to convey an impression, not tell it exactly as it was. I'm not going to try and argue this though. Those that want to hate it because it's American-centric and not entirely accurate are free to do so. As for me, I'm really looking forward to it.
MarcoRossolini Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) I must say it felt more like I was on the ground in a trench compared to flying... Also, would a B-17 turn back after losing an engine? I'd doubt it'd be able to keep formation at the least... Edited November 15, 2013 by MarcoRossolini
SvAF/F16_Goblin Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) In regards to "the entire Luftwaffe showing up" I've seen interviews and read biographies that states one of the tacticsused by the LW was massive front attacks with up to 300 fighters that plowed through the formations in order to fireat the pilots and expose them self to enemy fire for the shortest amount of time. At the same time a high cover wouldtry to engage the escort. This would be less likely as war progressed due to losses on LW side. So I don't want to say that it's completely unrealistic but as always movie makers are a wee bit on the excessive side Edited November 15, 2013 by 332_Goblin
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted November 15, 2013 Author Posted November 15, 2013 No doubt the bombing raids were attacked by 100s of fighters, just not all at the same time, in one pass, at least not from the books ive read, setting up that sort of attack took too long. Anyway, its prob just my inner sim geek raising its ugly head...lol. Didn't it seem a bit quiet inside that B-17? ...see, im doing it again...lol...the rest of the details and visuals look good. BOB is my favourite series and was so well done that i guess its hard to live up to it.
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Why don't they use a sim like War Thunder for the in flight stuff? The graphics look way better than what the have.
Feathered_IV Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 After a bit of digging around, it seems this is not related (thankfully) to the Hanks/Spielberg miniseries that is currently under development. The trailer is only a proof of concept thing and actual filming has not begun yet. THE MIGHTY EIGHTH was written by Kurt Johnstad (300, 300: RISE OF AN EMPIRE, ACT OF VALOR) and is produced by David Hoberman (THE FIGHTER, THE PROPOSAL), Todd Lieberman (THE FIGHTER, THE PROPOSAL) and Greg & Colin Strause, with director Rick Jacobson (BITCH SLAP, Starz Spartacus: War of the Damned) taking the helm. - See more at: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-check-out-this-awesome-teaser-footage-for-wwii-epic-the-mighty-eighth#sthash.zVXTG41l.dpuf http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-check-out-this-awesome-teaser-footage-for-wwii-epic-the-mighty-eighth
ATAG_Slipstream Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks Feathered, I feel a bit happier now.
FlatSpinMan Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 That would explain the highly stylised background. Interesting. Not a huge fan of those movies - though 300 was really striking the first time I saw it
Stray Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 I was also very disappointed with the "remake" of Redtails ( original was called The Tuskegee Airmen ) and Gooding Jr starred in both. However I cannot wait to see the Mighty Eighth. Big fan of BoB and The Pacific, read books also, time to learn more about bomber crews.
Gort Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Hopefully that is the case, and this cartoon doesn't display the final format for the project.
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) I was also very disappointed with the "remake" of Redtails ( original was called The Tuskegee Airmen ) and Gooding Jr starred in both. However I cannot wait to see the Mighty Eighth. Big fan of BoB and The Pacific, read books also, time to learn more about bomber crews. Don't get me started... 3rd SS Panzer insignias on the 109s Edited November 15, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Don't get me started... 3rd SS Panzer insignias on the 109s
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) I wonder if they'll be any Bad Guy fighter pilots in this Spielberg series? Galland or Priller. Edited November 15, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Here is a bargan basement film called "Fortress" The CGI here doesn't look bad and the 109s look great! Great camouflage and dimentions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y83rT19jFA
=LD=Hethwill Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Fortress is quite entertaining for a low budget. Worth a watch, given it actually is more fixed in the crew day to day basis than on the fighting. Edited November 15, 2013 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan 1
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Sorry for going on and on like a looney toon but when people with out a cent so to speek like Barfly Mysticpuma and Wolfbiscuits can make something that can make your hair stand on end with a WWII combat flight sim and a hollywood director with a 200 million dollar budget makes something you want to through your coke at the screen someone is just trying to make cash and doesn't give a shit and it isn't the nerds. Edited November 15, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich
=LD=Hethwill Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 We will never see another Battle of Britain production, that's for sure. Nor another Blue Max... For some reason new cinema school relies too much on CGI where as radio controls could make the scenes way better in some situations.
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) We will never see another Battle of Britain production, that's for sure. Nor another Blue Max... For some reason new cinema school relies too much on CGI where as radio controls could make the scenes way better in some situations. Well being a huge Luftwaffe fighter pilot fan and The Battle Of Britain being the only film that really depicted them properly it's been a real dry spell since 1969. You see Adolf Galland in the cedits as an advisor I'm sure that's one of the reasons. In that film you get the end of The Battle Of France the build up to The Battle Of Britain. The two coming out of the fuhers meeting saying it's a crazy idea! Goring messing things up. Galland of course it's Galland asking for Spitfires. The accidental bombing of London. All of the facts are in there. The big wing fighting with Park and Mallory. Bringing the fighters back from France. The great thing about this movie is you're learning about things from both points of view. I think an air war over Germany should be made this way. Might happen before I kick. Edited November 15, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich
SPRCrash_Nemesis Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 Hi guys, I am a filmmaker, here is my film, Angel of the Skies, about a South African pilot who flew for the Royal Air Force. Very small indie budget, did all the CGI myself in my room. What you guys think?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3am9oxF8zk 1
GOAT-ACEOFACES Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 wow.. that teaser is a let down, looks like another WWII movie being DOA
=LD=Hethwill Posted November 15, 2013 Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Hi guys, I am a filmmaker, here is my film, Angel of the Skies, about a South African pilot who flew for the Royal Air Force. Very small indie budget, did all the CGI myself in my room. What you guys think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3am9oxF8zk Looks great. Especially regarding the CGI the lighting is very much credible. Well done. Been following Tinus Le Roux interviews with all the SAAF chaps so i will look forward to this one. Salute ! Edited November 15, 2013 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan
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