My hope for ground vehicle future

[71st_AH_Hooves]

So what I played today was VERY impressive, very fun, and exciting to think about!!

 

SO here is a list of top thing I hope to see going forward

 

1. A commander view

2. A assistant driver position

3. Addition of tanks currently in the game to be Playable 

4.  AAA and Katusha!

5. Ability to remap all current control inputs

 

I really have to hand it to you guys, its a great addition to the sim, and continuing to add ground content I feel would be a big plus for the community in general!
 

Thanks again,

Hooves

[Finkeren]

Agree with most.

 

I would prioritize the list like this:

 

1: Control remapping

 

2: Make all (most) tanks and assault guns drivable

 

3: Commanders view/position

 

4: Radio operator/assistant driver

 

5: Make moar tanks (in your spare time - not instead of planes)

 

I don't think, that modeling player controlled artillery would be worth the effort. Instead I propose at some point modelling artillery spotting and making it available for recon aircraft and certain light tanks/command vehicles. To be useful in MP the spotting system would have to be based on actual map coordinates (else players could just drive around the preset grid) As an artillery spotter you'd be given a selection of batteries within range to give orders to, and the coordinates you give them would have to be within range of the selected batteries. Perhaps there should also became option to give a "fire at will" command, if the enemy moves within visual range from the batteries.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Finkeren

[Uufflakke]

Here is a related ground unit topic with some interesting vehicles :

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/848-resource-collection-ground-units/

[Skoop]

How about a ground commander position built on to the spectator/ map mode that allows a person to issue orders to the ground troops. Hell, coconut already made this possible using a web browser. The devs might as well make it an official feature.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Skoop

[CheeseGromit]

I'm certainly interested to see further development for the tank side.

 

I guess my wish list would be:

 

1. Controls as mentioned. Perhaps a separate tab for tanks, something that doesn't with aircraft controls.

 

2. Commander view. Here I'm primarily interested in an un-buttoned position with binoculars. I'm happy for a simplified buttoned view, i.e. I'm not concerned about modelling the interior of the tank, animating crew etc. if visible to the commander (unless there's a lot of modeller free time).

 

3. Able to use tanks in quick mission builder.

 

4. Manual transmission. Nothing too sophisticated needed, I'd just like to be able to moderate my speed be remaining in a lower gear, i.e. slow approach.

 

5. Additional tanks (from the editor my favourites would be: Pz IV G, Stug III L/43, KV 1; others are: Stug III L/24, T-70 and BT-7).

[Finkeren]

Oh yeah, I actually have one more request for the tanks:

 

6: A "bail out" function that allows the crew to escape the tank to preserve their virtual lives. It doesn't have to be anything fancy, just a couple of guys running away from the tank (Though it would be awesome seeing correctly dressed tank crews leave the tank via the appropriate hatches and jump off)

[Rjel]

I'd like to be able to map the controls for ground vehicles to a game controller. Tanks would benefit from the dual controls. As mentioned, a separate screen to map the ground units controls would be a huge bonus.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Rjel

[GSE_schentzer]

Are you able to fire flares from your tank? Would be a nice visual confirmation for friendly positions during danger close air support.

[Finkeren]

Are you able to fire flares from your tank? Would be a nice visual confirmation for friendly positions during danger close air support.

 

I don't think you are, but it would be an excellent feature, also for signaling friendly tanks.

[Brano]

I just want to drive my T-34 now instead of being stucked at work

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Great Ideas guys!

 

Im trying to keep my ideas in the scope of what can be accomplished by the team with the things they have to work with.  IE Not coding in an entire new interface or anything like that.

 

What I do want to impress upon the Devs is how well the tanks come off.  They did a bang up job that warrants some extra attention to flush out the experience to make it even better!  I think this could really boost interest in the series.

[SpaydCBR]

I want the interiors to be fully modeled. Playing as any crew position, I should be able to look everywhere inside the tank. Visually see killed crew members and destroyed modules! I think RO2 did that

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

Smoke grenades.

[Jade_Monkey]

I'd like to be able to map the controls for ground vehicles to a game controller. Tanks would benefit from the dual controls. As mentioned, a separate screen to map the ground units controls would be a huge bonus.

It would be great.

 

I mapped the tank controllers to my joystick through the saitek software and its pretty decent.

 

The stick moves the turret and the HAT controls the tank movements.

[=SwiAiF=Maverick85]

my wishes:

 

1. Radio Traffic for more atmo...

2. Tree phisics..

3. more tanks, maybe the Tiger I... ;-)

[Brano]

We need infantry to smash fashist tanks with our foreign affairs narkom's favourite drink!

 

 

 

[Y-29.Silky]

 

1. A commander view

2. A assistant driver position

3. Addition of tanks currently in the game to be Playable 

4.  AAA and Katusha!

5. Ability to remap all current control inputs

 

Or we can keep this as a flight simulator 

 

1. An AI ATC you can radio and/or a radio in general. 
2. Allow the top gunners in the He-111/Pe-2 be the bombardier instead of having the pilot have all the workload.
3. Flyable Ju-52
4. Po-2 and Li-2!
5. Well, I don't need to remind people of how bad the controls are for aircraft as it is. 

Edited November 25, 2015 by Y-29.Silky

[Jade_Monkey]

 

Or we can keep this as a flight simulator

 

• An AI ATC you can radio and/or a radio in general.
• Allow the top gunners in the He-111/Pe-2 be the bombardier instead of having the pilot have all the workload.
• Flyable Ju-52
• Po-2 and Li-2!
• Well, I don't need to remind people of how bad the controls are for aircraft as it is.

Way to derail every conversation about tanks. No need to be so inmature.

 

They added a new feature developped in their spare time, and it has been received very positively by the community overall. Get over it. Nobody took any part of the flight sim away from you.

[Sokol1]

 

 

Control remapping

 

 

But what the difficult do this actually? For the game tanks is a plane.

 

Only mouse turret movement I dont find what command is - some camera.

The other commands allow reassign, and since all game command allow 3 options one can do this without change the default assignments.

 

Ctrl+C change pilot/gunner position in planes, but want use key # 1 in tanks, just add this in other column.

 

Only if you guys are asking for exclusive commands for tanks... but remember that moto: "less keys is better". 

[71st_AH_Hooves]

 

Or we can keep this as a flight simulator 

 

1. An AI ATC you can radio and/or a radio in general. 
2. Allow the top gunners in the He-111/Pe-2 be the bombardier instead of having the pilot have all the workload.
3. Flyable Ju-52
4. Po-2 and Li-2!
5. Well, I don't need to remind people of how bad the controls are for aircraft as it is. 

 

Seriously bro.........  :/

Edited November 26, 2015 by Hooves

[Rjel]

But what the difficult do this actually? For the game tanks is a plane.

 

Only mouse turret movement I dont find what command is - some camera.

The other commands allow reassign, and since all game command allow 3 options one can do this without change the default assignments.

 

Ctrl+C change pilot/gunner position in planes, but want use key # 1 in tanks, just add this in other column.

 

Only if you guys are asking for exclusive commands for tanks... but remember that moto: "less keys is better". 

I guess another option would be to keep a separate input folder, one for ground vehicles and one for A/C. The down side would be having to restart the game if going from one to the other. Still it would simplify key mapping.

[HippyDruid]

Some great suggestions here!

If we are only able to have some minor improvements, then I think a seperate camera movement to the turret movement as Sokol1 has suggested is a must

 

The addition of tanks is a great move by the devs. The multiplayer battles have been so much more fun.

 

 

 

Edit: Spelling.

Edited November 26, 2015 by HippyDruid

[71st_AH_Hooves]

So i guess I'm blind. Every control on the tank is in its respective area

Movement, weapons switching, and sight elevation. All there.

 

So that's one less thing on my list. Oh and comeander view. Just , open the canopy" while in the gunner. But it would be much cooler to be able to use track ir while turned out.

 

 

Use need that panzer IV, stug, and KV1.

[Veteran66]

my wishes:

 

1. Radio Traffic for more atmo...

2. Tree phisics..

3. more tanks, maybe the Tiger I... ;-)

 

 

in this Panzer Mission i add some "Radio Calls"

 

The tank battle of Kalatsch

 

Panzer_Marsch1 Download_from_www.mission4today.com

 

 

 

 

more Infos here:

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13912-veteranenmissions/page-12?do=findComment&comment=307571

Edited November 26, 2015 by Veteran66

[Feathered_IV]

Well done veteran66. I'll look forward to trying that out. Ambient radio calls are the one area that the developers have really dropped the ball on.

[Y-29.Silky]

Way to derail every conversation about tanks. No need to be so inmature.

 

They added a new feature developped in their spare time, and it has been received very positively by the community overall. Get over it. Nobody took any part of the flight sim away from you.

 

There was this one game who initially claimed they were going to be a full flight simulator, then they added mouse aim, then they added tanks..

Now it's dog crap and it's called War Thunder. 

 

Go drive your tanks... and then complain how you can't penetrate the T-34 because there's already a thread about it..

I play this game because it's one of 3 flight sims that even exist anymore.

WoL isn't even full anymore.

 

Don't dog on me for trying to defend my genre.

 

This game needs a lot of improvement as it is in flight, A LOT, Clod is still a main competitor, they have more aircraft and features, they even came out with a Mediterranean update, yet this game (not the devs, but the community) is now focused on tanks. 

If "Tanks + Aircraft" is going to be the main server, this game will lose yet another loyal customer. 

Edited November 26, 2015 by Y-29.Silky

[Brano]

Dont get us wrong,Silky.You are free to defend whatever part of this game you want.But please,do it in a separate thread and do not spoil the fun for the others who enjoy this new dimension of the game and want to chit-chat about what could be improved.

Just dont be like those well know "FM- crap-ufo-rainbow" thread hijackers.

[Fliegel]

Its great so far!

 

1. Commander position. Buttoned (important as that was one of the main advantage of PzIII) and unbuttoned with commander model.

 

2. Vulnerability of unbuttoned driver (T-34) and commander.

 

3. Crash damage.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Fliegel

[Feathered_IV]

Smoke that lasts longer would be good. The old Il-2 could keep a column of smoke going for hours on end, but these days the fires are out quicker than you can turn around and say, Did I hit anything?

[3instein]

Had a quick go last night with Veteran66's missions and must admit the tanks are better that I thought they would be.

 

Some sounds of the gun being reloaded would be nice though, also a commanders view with body would be even nicer.

 

Good update though.

 

Mick.

[Brano]

Here is my wishlist:

 

1. Animated hatch for commanders so when in outside view,you can see it actually open
2. When zooming as commander,switch to "binocular frame vision" for more immersion
3. Add composite-rigid,HE fragmentation,HEAT ammo as an option for guns
4. Make coaxial MG fire independant from main gun (no need to switch inbetween ammo for gun and MG like it is now)
5. Crew voice for simple operations like Fire!AP loaded!!tank,APC,gun spotted!wounded!taking damage!

    I miss myself shouting at loader "бронебойным залезай!"
6. Turret periscope view for T-34 and commander cupola observation slots for PzkpfwIII
7. Ability to shift gears and add analog gas pedal for smoother acc/decceleration
8. Skinable tanks,so we can add units insignia and other symbols used to identify who is who
9. Command tree for tank platoon/company CO's (formation/follow/target designation etc) + possibility to call in arty and air support.
10. MORE TANKS!

[Jade_Monkey]

There was this one game who initially claimed they were going to be a full flight simulator, then they added mouse aim, then they added tanks..

Now it's dog crap and it's called War Thunder.

 

Go drive your tanks... and then complain how you can't penetrate the T-34 because there's already a thread about it..

I play this game because it's one of 3 flight sims that even exist anymore.

WoL isn't even full anymore.

 

Don't dog on me for trying to defend my genre.

 

This game needs a lot of improvement as it is in flight, A LOT, Clod is still a main competitor, they have more aircraft and features, they even came out with a Mediterranean update, yet this game (not the devs, but the community) is now focused on tanks.

If "Tanks + Aircraft" is going to be the main server, this game will lose yet another loyal customer.

1) its not YOUR genre

2) hasta la vista babe!

[71st_AH_Hooves]

There was this one game who initially claimed they were going to be a full flight simulator, then they added mouse aim, then they added tanks..

Now it's dog crap and it's called War Thunder. 

 

Go drive your tanks... and then complain how you can't penetrate the T-34 because there's already a thread about it..

I play this game because it's one of 3 flight sims that even exist anymore.

WoL isn't even full anymore.

 

Don't dog on me for trying to defend my genre.

 

This game needs a lot of improvement as it is in flight, A LOT, Clod is still a main competitor, they have more aircraft and features, they even came out with a Mediterranean update, yet this game (not the devs, but the community) is now focused on tanks. 

If "Tanks + Aircraft" is going to be the main server, this game will lose yet another loyal customer. 

 

Talk about cherry pickino features. Clod ALSO HAS TANKS. This is just a discussion about that particular aspect of the game. Please go make a thread elsewhere discussing your distaste that new content has been added to the sim (Content that btw didnt affect aircraft production 1 iota]

[SYN_Mike77]

So by commander position you mean with the hatch closed?  Right now it seems we have 3 positions:

1.  Driver

2.  Gunner

3.  Commander/driver with the hatch open

 

Oddly you can only become the commander by first becoming the gunner and then opening the hatch and hitting "T".  Then you can look around with  trackir as a commander would while still driving.  It works out pretty well considering that this is first and foremost a flight sim.  Overall, I love the tanks and can't wait to play around with it in coops with my squadron!

Edited November 26, 2015 by SYN_Mike77

[Sokol1]

 

 

7. Ability to shift gears and add analog gas pedal for smoother acc/decceleration

 

Add a axis - e.g. joy throttle - for Vehicle acceleration/brake = and you have progressive control of movement.

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Add a axis - e.g. joy throttle - for Vehicle acceleration/brake = and you have progressive control of movement.

I have mapped my tank throttle to my regular throttle and it works perfect.  A little throttle, goes slow, a lot goes full speed.   Not sure why others are saying it doesn't exist, or doesn't work.

[Jade_Monkey]

I know the tank controls are currently simplified, but it would be awesome if you could use the throttles with two separate axes, like the X55 and warthog(i think) as the two different levers in the tank.

 

Just some ideas for the future.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

More of everything please

[johncage]

how about we keep this a flight sim. k thanks

[Fliegel]

how about we keep this a flight sim. k thanks

 

Good news for you, they are keeping all the planes! You are wellcome.