Custom skins in Campaign mode

[Olt_Kloetenburg]

Dear Devs and Community,

 

being a proud Bf-109 pilot since Il2 Forgotten Battles was released, I am so happy with this simulation. Flying the F-4 never felt better than that!!!

 

One small thing: I would love to use my custom skin in Campaign Mode... I have created such a beautiful one based on factory mottling with historical field modifications and Victory Markings on the Rudder... It's a shame to fly the default one or those (great-looking) unlockable skins that look like my plane wouldn't... I am not Marseille :-(

 

Is there a possibility to see this option enabled in one of the next updates? It would really enhance game immersion (in my case at least)...

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

[Trooper117]

But you know they will probably never allow that, as it will then make a mockery of the fact that you have to 'grind' to obtain skins in the campaign.

 

I'm with you though... there are skinners out there that have made some great skinpacks that could be used not just for the plane that you are flying, but also there is a need to be able to customize the whole flight!

[LLv24_Zami]

How about including custom skins to unlocks? When you unlock last skin for a certain plane, it would release custom skins for it at the same time. Wouldn't mess too much the campaign system imo.

[III/JG2Gustav05]

They want to use this way to whet peoples appetite to fly the campaign for the skin unlock , but ironically this is one of the main reason for some people include me to stop to play it.  

[Trooper117]

How about including custom skins to unlocks? When you unlock last skin for a certain plane, it would release custom skins for it at the same time. Wouldn't mess too much the campaign system imo.

 

If I was a skinner, I would be totally against the devs 'locking' my skin creation into their campaign

[LLv24_Zami]

If I was a skinner, I would be totally against the devs 'locking' my skin creation into their

campaign

Probably so. But I was suggesting sort of middle way solution to the problem that no custom skins at all can be used in campaign missions.

[Trooper117]

I can't remember offhand, but does PWCG allow the player to choose custom skins for the whole flight?

That would certainly be an alternative solution to the use of custom skins in game

[LLv24_Zami]

I can't remember offhand, but does PWCG allow the player to choose custom skins for

the whole flight?

That would certainly be an alternative solution to the use of custom skins in game

For the whole flight I don't think so. But I'm not 100% sure and can't check that right now.

[Comes]

I can't remember offhand, but does PWCG allow the player to choose custom skins for the whole flight?

That would certainly be an alternative solution to the use of custom skins in game

If I remember correctly, it was possible in RoF, so I think it's also possible in BoS. 

[Cybermat47]

If I remember correctly, it was possible in RoF, so I think it's also possible in BoS.

 

You remember right. Custom skins are useable by players in BoS PWCG missions. They don't seem to have been implemented yet on AI aircraft, though.

[Finkeren]

PWCG for BoS includes no option for either choosing custom skins or even use stock skins for AI, but since every mission in the campaign is essentially a single mission, the player can ude any skin he or she likes.

 

Pat has said (hope I'm telling this correctly) that he'd like to include custom skins, including correct squadron markings for each unit represented in the campaign, but that it'll have to wait until the program functions smoothly and a proper skin pack can be made.

[PatrickAWlson]

I can't remember offhand, but does PWCG allow the player to choose custom skins for the whole flight?

That would certainly be an alternative solution to the use of custom skins in game

 

Yes.  The data entry is not done, but it's a text file or three away.  Which means it's a lot of work but possible .

 

In the squadron config file you specify the default squadron skin.

In the file for each individual ace you specify the skins for the ace (we don't have any aces yet but they too can be added).

In the aircraft skin file you can specify other skins that can be used for a given aircraft.  These will usually be historically accurate personal skins but can also be generic variants,

 

All skins can specify a begin/end date to avoid winter skins in summer and that sort of thing.  

 

Skins in the aircraft skins file can also be specified as belonging to a certain squadron.  Or the skin can be listed as "generic" and made available across all squadrons.  Assignment of personal skins to your squadron mates allows you to selects from the list of skins in the aircraft specific files.  You can choose from skins that belong to your squadron and any generic skins that are available.

 

The result is that an historically accurate personal skin can be added to the game where it will be used one time per mission, and only one time per mission, and always for the correct squadron.  

PWCG for BoS includes no option for either choosing custom skins or even use stock skins for AI, but since every mission in the campaign is essentially a single mission, the player can ude any skin he or she likes.

 

Pat has said (hope I'm telling this correctly) that he'd like to include custom skins, including correct squadron markings for each unit represented in the campaign, but that it'll have to wait until the program functions smoothly and a proper skin pack can be made.

 

See above.  It's there.  It's just that the data entry has not been done. The files are plain text so anybody can do them.

[Ace_Pilto]

The weird thing is that most of the skins don't fit the campaign anyway.I get the grinding aspect, it's a psychological technique that keeps people playing but it only works if the reward is perceived to be worthwhile. I'm never going to use some oddity skin from Romania or Hungary or wherever in a campaign unless it fits.

 

A better way to do this would be to have skins that fit the players progress. Unlocking a flight leader or squadron leader identifier for the Luftwaffe, a Guards skin or Hero of the Soviet Union badge for the VVS and victory marking decals, nose art and emblems would be better and they could add a buff to the friendly AI in your flight, giving them a higher skill level. Then you could have them reset if the player is killed.

 

A good example of the bad way of doing unlocks is the Afrika Korps skin for the 109, why bother with that as an unlock? It doesn't belong over Stalingrad, it's not even the same theater! You might as well make one with a British Airways Livery or A hot pink one with flames going down the sides.

Edited November 10, 2015 by JimmyBlonde

[Dakpilot]

Pathetically in the most of time 777 does not want to hear customer's feedback. I really don't get why do they stick with this ruthless decision.

 

With that kind of 'tone' is it  surprising that comments like this are ignored by those that look at feedback?

 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[PatrickAWlson]

With that kind of 'tone' is it  surprising that comments like this are ignored by those that look at feedback?

 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

 

I heard a comment from a grocer once.  He said that he would much rather have a customer complain loudly than not at all.  The loud one could be mollified and retrieved.  The one who quietly left was gone forever, and telling two friends to boot.

 

obviously 777 does some great stuff or we would not all keep coming back.  I also agree that it is better not to use phrases like "pathetic", etc.  777's transgressions do not rise to that level.  However, it is also better to hear valid criticism, even if not stated as gently as one might like, than to have a potential customer walk away.

[Dakpilot]

I heard a comment from a grocer once.  He said that he would much rather have a customer complain loudly than not at all.  The loud one could be mollified and retrieved.  The one who quietly left was gone forever, and telling two friends to boot.

 

obviously 777 does some great stuff or we would not all keep coming back.  I also agree that it is better not to use phrases like "pathetic", etc.  777's transgressions do not rise to that level.  However, it is also better to hear valid criticism, even if not stated as gently as one might like, than to have a potential customer walk away.

 

Totally agree, all criticism complaints and suggestions are what make things better, and should be welcomed, it is the way they are put that sometimes leads to valid points being ignored

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[FirestarterAUT]

Hi!
And is it possible now to use customized skins in the campain mode or not? I just loaded 700+ skins up, but can't see a single one except not playing in the campain mode.

Georg

[LukeFF]

No

[ShamrockOneFive]

A valid question now is what will happen with the new campaign system (that will completely replace the old campaign system) sometime later this year and will custom skins be allowed there?

[unreasonable]

A valid question now is what will happen with the new campaign system (that will completely replace the old campaign system) sometime later this year and will custom skins be allowed there?

 

I think Han or Jason answered that in the positive a while ago - subject to all the usual work load permitting caveats.  

 

It will be a massive disappointment if this is not implemented in NewCareer: there is absolutely no gameplay reason why we should not have this option now that the horrible unlocks have been consigned to the wastebasket of history. Also it would be great to improve on the RoF Career system; that allowed custom skins for the player plane only; to reach PWCG's standard of setting custom skins for AI wingmen.

 

Would not hurt to ask again soon - I know the team get irritated by repeat questions but if we do not nag them a little they will forget and think we do not care anymore....

[Mika_87]

Sorry to bumb an old topic but coulnt find the answear anywhere.

Is it possible to use custom skin in campaing mode?

 

Just got new computer and it is time to try this campaing first time. It would be nice to use some realistic paintings on planes.

 

I am using Battle of Stalingrad and Battle of Moscow.

Edited September 14, 2019 by Mika_87

[Ribbon]

34 minutes ago, Mika_87 said:

Sorry to bumb an old topic but coulnt find the answear anywhere.

Is it possible to use custom skin in campaing mode?

 

Just got new computer and it is time to try this campaing first time. It would be nice to use some realistic paintings on planes.

 

I am using Battle of Stalingrad and Battle of Moscow.

Yes you can use custom skins in career/campaign mode.

However they are not allowed to use in scripted campaigns (ones that you buy, containing up to 16missions).

[Mika_87]

8 minutes ago, EAF_Ribbon said:

Yes you can use custom skins in career/campaign mode.

However they are not allowed to use in scripted campaigns (ones that you buy, containing up to 16missions).

 

Thank you!

Nice to hear.

 

I dont have any scripted campaigns so it is not a problem.

I might buy those campaigns one day but not yet.

[SharpeXB]

If you’re the squadron commander you can assign custom skins to your flight. 

[MarcoPegase44]

Hello,

 

random skin it’s possible for the pilots or player squadron.

 

Look my post