FX-6300 & BOS. Am I good?

[nemo7]

Chears Y'all.

 

I am planning to get this sim and I'd like to make sure my PC can handle it decently.

 

Here's my pc specs:

Windows 10 64-bit
AMD FX-6300 3.5GHZ 6-core
8192MB RAM
MSI Nvidia GTX 960 100 Million Edition 2048MB

 

 

 

[Fishbed64]

Chears Y'all.

 

I am planning to get this sim and I'd like to make sure my PC can handle it decently.

 

Here's my pc specs:

 

Windows 10 64-bit

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHZ 6-core

8192MB RAM

MSI Nvidia GTX 960 100 Million Edition 2048MB

No you not good at all,IL2 BOS is incredibly hard on CPU,and what you need is CPU with strongest IPC(performance per core) AMD FX is exactly opposite of that,even Rise of flight which is much less demanding than BOS dont run very well on FX CPU...Even if you OC FX6300 to 4,5ghz you still see many dips way below 30fps.You need Intel CPU,at least i5 4590 or better,the rest of your hardware is great for il2 BOS.   

[Ala13_Kike]

I'm sorry, but I disagree

If with this CPU and GPU you can not to play at this sim, it's due to this sim has a big problem, not for CPU. (isn't the case)

 

And with OC, this CPU it's a beast, but required a good CPU cooling to increase the vcore over 1.3.

 

My old PC was a X4 955 3,7ghz with CFX5850, less perfomance that this X6+GTX960, and I've play always very smooth. 

Why one X6 it's a bad CPU for this SIM?

[Godfather_Actual]

Chears Y'all.

 

I am planning to get this sim and I'd like to make sure my PC can handle it decently.

 

Here's my pc specs:

 

Windows 10 64-bit

AMD FX-6300 3.5GHZ 6-core

8192MB RAM

MSI Nvidia GTX 960 100 Million Edition 2048MB

 

Yea brother your good! I run the game on high and good fps with the Fx6300 and a gtx 660 3gb edition. So you will be just fine.

 

I am not sure why fishbed is so critical about the fx. It can definetly run BoS. Sure, maybe not as well as an Intel but still very much playable.

[Fishbed64]

 

I'm sorry, but I disagree

If with this CPU and GPU you can not to play at this sim, it's due to this sim has a big problem, not for CPU. (isn't the case)

 

And with OC, this CPU it's a beast, but required a good CPU cooling to increase the vcore over 1.3.

 

My old PC was a X4 955 3,7ghz with CFX5850, less perfomance that this X6+GTX960, and I've play always very smooth. 

Why one X6 it's a bad CPU for this SIM?

 

You dont know what you talking about,FX is absolute crap for cpu demanding games and even FX9590(yes 4,7ghz model)is way slower than basic i5 4460 if the game need brute force performance per core and dont use many cores that well.FX 6300 is just unusable for sims,especially for Il2 bos,if you want playable framerate,many people struggle to run BOS perfectly even on overclocked i5 or i7. Check this even with Haswell xeon on 3,4ghz BOS runs very badly when too many IA units are shown   

if you have FX you will see something like 15fps frame rate in the same situation.Also look at this and bare in mind that il2 bos is even much more demanding on CPU,look where all the FX CPUs are    http://www.techspot.com/review/970-homeworld-remastered-benchmarks/page4.html

[Fishbed64]

Yea brother your good! I run the game on high and good fps with the Fx6300 and a gtx 660 3gb edition. So you will be just fine.

 

I am not sure why fishbed is so critical about the fx. It can definetly run BoS. Sure, maybe not as well as an Intel but still very much playable.

Because i my self have FX before (fx 8320 OC 4,5ghz)and it was much slower than i5 3570 or Xeon which i have now,even Rise of flight runs like dog the minimum frame rate was as low as 25 on English channel map,i5 3570 4gz have minimums around 40fps,in il2 bos it will be much worse for FX,if you dont mind fps below 30 its your choice ,but its not playable. 

[SYN_Mike77]

I have the FX 4300 rated at 3.8 oc'd to 4.3 and the game runs just fine. I pair that with nvidea 660 and I get frame rates that drop to about 35 on the ground and up to 60 once I'm in the air. That is on Ultra level ssao off hdr on.If I play on balanceed I get 50 fps on the ground 60 on take off.

 

Something was wrong with Fishbed's rig.

Edited November 3, 2015 by SYN_Mike77

[Fishbed64]

I have the FX 4300 rated at 3.8 oc'd to 4.3 and the game runs just fine. I pair that with nvidea 660 and I get frame rates that drop to about 35 on the ground and up to 60 once I'm in the air. That is on Ultra level ssao off hdr on.If I play on balanceed I get 50 fps on the ground 60 on take off.

 

Something was wrong with Fishbed's rig.

Yes those FPS you have only when you are alone,if there is too many iA units(like in the video)your fps drop like a stone.There is absolutely nothing wrong with my rig,it runs everything as it should.FX4300 is a joke CPU for sims,as any other FX...i am just answering the original question which is "to make sure my PC can handle it decently" and the answer is NO,definitely not decently.   

[SYN_Mike77]

I mainly fly on line and those numbers are mainly from observing on line behavior (even up to the new 84 full server!) But also in quick mission with up to  5 on 5 set ups.  Maybe you got a bad chip? 

[SJ_Butcher]

You dont know what you talking about,FX is absolute crap for cpu demanding games and even FX9590(yes 4,7ghz model)is way slower than basic i5 4460 if the game need brute force performance per core and dont use many cores that well.FX 6300 is just unusable for sims,especially for Il2 bos,if you want playable framerate,many people struggle to run BOS perfectly even on overclocked i5 or i7. Check this even with Haswell xeon on 3,4ghz BOS runs very badly when too many IA units are shown   

if you have FX you will see something like 15fps frame rate in the same situation.Also look at this and bare in mind that il2 bos is even much more demanding on CPU,look where all the FX CPUs are    http://www.techspot.com/review/970-homeworld-remastered-benchmarks/page4.html

just look at the gpu usage, a normal use its 99%, this game runs in a outdated api (dx9), the devs need to start thinking in multi thread than just run something using brutal force.... we are at 2015, adapt or die dev, its the rules, you can't stick with old tech, because if many people with capable hardware is getting problems is not the hardware, its the game.

 

To OP: The guilty here are the devs more than your hardware mate, you can still play the game but maybe not get the desire fps. I can't play with anything below 60, my eyes bleed, but I have a real stronk computer because the laziness is all over the industry...

 

Excuse my English.

[SharpeXB]

If I understand it correctly BoS already runs multi core. The speed of each core is still important though. Hence the need for strong single core performance in the CPU

AMD is simply the wrong CPU for this kind of game. It's not a problem with the software.

The Devs did post some ideas about how to spread out the CPU load like adding another thread for physics or making the distant AI planes use simple flight models. But I would not hold your breath waiting for a DX12 engine.

Edited November 3, 2015 by SharpeXB

[SJ_Butcher]

If I understand it correctly BoS already runs multi core. The speed of each core is still important though. Hence the need for strong single core performance in the CPU

AMD is simply the wrong CPU for this kind of game. It's not a problem with the software.

The Devs did post some ideas about how to spread out the CPU load like adding another thread for physics or making the distant AI planes use simple flight models. But I would not hold your breath waiting for a DX12 engine.

 

It is easier to just develop thinking in one thread than multi threads, AMD hardware is perfectly capable, but the laziness is what kill them, as software developer it is much easier to just overload a single core than thinking in how the hell split everything thinking in threads, but I always thought that a good program should run efficiently in all the platforms possible, if not your programs is totally crap and bad designed.

 

I know the developers are few but the industry is really punishing the PC market, they think yeah they have more capable hardware lets make something inefficiently that require brutal force. At least the console developers earn my respect when they are capable to just work with limited resources and struggle the hardware in 100%

[nemo7]

Bought it on steam. Love the visuals, love the sim. By the way, SP Campaign runs quite well.

 

If a FX-6300 user is interested, here's my in game settings (+ Mastiffs NVIDIA control panel 3D program Settings -except FXAA & MFAA, gamma 0,7 and

terrain.ini all 4096,8).

 

 

[Gromey]

Running a stock 6300 with an r7 370 game runs fine, all this hate towards AMD is unwanted and I'm not been a fanboi here Intel rock too. But saying its simply unplayable is totally wrong the game runs fine on an AMD rig.

Granted you wont be getting the BEST performance but will it be playable? I'm sure of it. For absolute best performance you'd most likely want an i7 with a 980ti.

Everybody has different concept of playable fps. However in past experience the 1st question I ask myself is 'Is it smooth' if the answer to that is yes you got a winner.

Edited December 20, 2015 by Gromey

[Dutch2]

Bought it on steam. Love the visuals, love the sim. By the way, SP Campaign runs quite well.

 

If a FX-6300 user is interested, here's my in game settings (+ Mastiffs NVIDIA control panel 3D program Settings -except FXAA & MFAA, gamma 0,7 and

terrain.ini all 4096,8).

 

Great you have tested it, so now it is also clear for others. As long if your are not running a tablet/netbook etc, it is mostly just a matter of getting the right adjustments and tweaking your system to this game.  Some at the RoF forum are even playing RoF on a Intel internally Vcard and in 2009 I did play RoF using the nVidia7300-0,5Gb at the lowest possible settings. 

Pity that most members prefer to hear, get a new system. 

Edited December 20, 2015 by Dutch2

[LLv44_Mprhead]

I used to have FX-9350 and BoS did run kinda fine with it, much slower than with my current rig, but still playable.