Jason_Williams Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 Here is where we will discuss acquiring and preparing biographical and historical data about Russian, German and Italian aces that may be included in PWCG for BOS. This data would include info about kills, sorties flown, medals awarded and units he or she served with and when. I am looking for an "ACE CZAR" to gather, collate and present this data to Pat in a form he can use. Please raise your hand if you have the drive to do that for us. Jason
Y-29.Silky Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I do, do we just post the information here?
Jason_Williams Posted September 22, 2015 Author Posted September 22, 2015 Silky, No not exactly. First tell me what you have and then we will discuss. Jason
=38=Tatarenko Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 JULY & AUGUST IN ADVANCE AND DON BEND AREA Rank Name - plane - unit - base GERMAN Fw Leopold Muenster - 109F - JG3 - ? Lt Ludwig Haefner - 109F - II/JG3 - ? ObLt Wolfgang Tonne - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Uffz Wilhelm Crinius - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Uffz Heinz Golinski - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Lt Helmut Macher - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Ofw Heinrich Leschert - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Oblt Viktor Bauer - 109F - 9./JG3 - ? Lt Rolf Diergardt - 109F - 9./JG3 - ? Hpt Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke - 109F - Kommodore JG3 - ? From 20 August also .... Hpt. Johannes Steinhoff - 109G2 - Stab II/JG52 - Tusov Lt Waldemar Semelka - 109G2 - II/JG52 - Tusov Lt Heinz Schmidt - 109G2 - II/JG52 - Tusov SOVIET StLt Mikhail Baranov - Yak-1 - 183IAP - ?
=38=Tatarenko Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 ASSAULT ON STALINGRAD FROM 23 AUGUST - 10 SEPTEMBER Rank Name - plane - unit - base GERMAN Fw Leopold Muenster - 109F - JG3 - ? Lt Ludwig Haefner - 109F - II/JG3 - ? ObLt Wolfgang Tonne - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Uffz Wilhelm Crinius - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Uffz Heinz Golinski - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Lt Helmut Macher - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Ofw Heinrich Leschert - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Hpt Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke - 109F - Kommodore JG3 - ? Hpt. Johannes Steinhoff - 109G2 - Stab II/JG52 - Tusov Lt Heinz Schmidt - 109G2 - II/JG52 - Tusov Hpt. Hansgeorg Baetcher - He-111 - I/KG100 Hpt Kurt Braendle - 109F - Stab II/JG3 - ? SOVIET StLt Mikhail Baranov - Yak-1 - 183IAP - ? Major Dmitrii Valentik - Pe-2 - 284 BAP - Rakhinsky Lt Yevgenii Dranishchenko - La-5 - 437 IAP - ? StSerzh Boris Gomolko - Yak-1 - 520 IAP - ? BatKom Aleksandr Oborin - Yak-1 - 563 IAP - ?
Juri_JS Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Incomplete list of I./JG 3 aces and their number of kills achieved during the Stalingrad campaign.rank, name, unit, number of kills achieved during Stalingrad campaign, total kills during the war, remarks:Leutnant Franz Daspelgruber, 1./JG 3, 45 (1-45), 180Feldwebel Harro Schlüter, 1./JG 3, 28 (1-28), 32Feldwebel Heinz Baum 2./JG 3, 24 (1-24), ?Lt. Friedrich Lorentzen 1./JG 3, 21 (1-21), 21Unteroffizier Kurt Hofrath 2./JG 3, 21 (1-21), ?, MIA/KIA on 3 January 1943Unteroffizier Theodor Kaiser, 1./JG 3, 20 (1-20), 22Feldwebel Hubert Buschmann, 1./JG 3, 20 (1-20), 22Leutnant Alfred Humer, 1./JG 3, 19 (1-19), 21Feldwebel Otto Gruber, 2./JG 3, 19 (1-19), ?Leutnant Kurt Roisch, Stab I./JG 3, 18 (1-18), 20Feldwebel Fritz Mrotzeck, 2./JG 3, 18 (1-18), 19Feldwebel Uwe Krais, 1./JG 3, 14 (1-14), ?Feldwebel Franz Schwaiger, 2./JG 3, 35 (21-55), ?Leutnant Otto Weßling, 3./JG 3, 34 (29-62), 83Feldwebel Helmut Rüffler, 2./JG 3, 34 (18-51), 88Oberleutnant Erwin Straznicky, 2./JG 3, 28 (13-40?), ?, MIA/KIA on 3 October 1942Feldwebel Gustav Dilling, 2./JG 3, 26 (14-39), ?Hauptmann Georg Michalek, Stab I./JG 3, 25 (38-62), 59, Gruppenkommandeur of I./JG 3 between March and August 1942Leutnant Georg Schentke, 2./JG 3, 19 (72-90), 90, MIA/KIA on 25 December 1942, posthumously promoted to OberleutnantOberleutnant Helmut Mertens, 1./JG 3, 15 (39-53), ? I don't have detailed information for II./JG 3, but some important aces during December 1942 and January 1943 were:Hauptmann Kurt Brändle Stab II./JG 3, Gruppenkommandeur of II./JG 3Feldwebel Kurt Ebener, 4./JG 3Leutnant Gustav Frielinghausen, 6./JG 3Oberleutnant Werner Lucas, 4./JG 3Feldwebel Joseph Schütte, 4. and 5./JG 3More details on the careers (awards, ranks, units, total number of victories) of many Luftwaffe pilots can be found in these documents:http://www.ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20A-F%202015.pdfhttp://www.ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20G-K%202015.pdfhttp://www.ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20L-R%202015.pdfhttp://www.ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20S-Z%202015.pdf Edited September 23, 2015 by Juri_JS
=38=Tatarenko Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Note some rank changes for the Germans and removal of personnel that had been shot down, wounded or posted away. THE BATTLE FOR STALINGRAD FROM 10 SEPT Rank Name - plane - unit - base GERMAN Fw Leopold Muenster - 109F - JG3 - ? Lt Ludwig Haefner - 109F - II/JG3 - ? ObLt Wolfgang Tonne - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Fw Wilhelm Crinius - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Uffz Heinz Golinski - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Lt Helmut Macher - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Ofw Heinrich Leschert - 109G2 - I/JG53 - ? Hpt Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke - 109F - Kommodore JG3 - ? Hpt. Johannes Steinhoff - 109G2 - Stab II/JG52 - Tusov Lt Heinz Schmidt - 109G2 - II/JG52 - Tusov Hpt. Hansgeorg Baetcher - He-111 - I/KG100 Hpt Kurt Braendle - 109F - Stab II/JG3 - ? Oblt. Herman Graf - 109G2 - 9./JG52 Hpt. Karl Mueller - 109G2 - I/JG53 - Pitomnik Lt Egbert Jaekel - Ju87 - 3./StG 2 - ? SOVIET StLt Mikhail Baranov - Yak-1 - 183IAP - ? Major Dmitrii Valentik - Pe-2 - 284 BAP - Rakhinsky Lt Yevgenii Dranishchenko - La-5 - 437 IAP - ? StSerzh Boris Gomolko - Yak-1 - 520 IAP - ? BatKom Aleksandr Oborin - Yak-1 - 563 IAP - ? Major Aleksandr Isayev - ? - 237 IAP - ? StLt Aleksandr Martynov - Yak-7B - 296 IAP - ? Lt Sultan Amet-Khan - Yak-1 - 4 IAP - ? Lt Nikolay Karnachyonok - Yak-7B - 434 IAP - ? Lt Valeriya Khomyakova - Yak-1 - 586 IAP (female) Edited September 23, 2015 by =38=Tatarenko
JtD Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Will that be an optional feature in the PWCG? I always find it ridiculous to "shoot" down real people's representations. I'd rather not have it. 2
=38=Tatarenko Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) OP URANUS AND THE AIRLIFT FROM 19 NOVEMBER Note some changes to units from previous as the Russian formed "Ace Units" Rank Name - plane - unit - base GERMAN Fw Leopold Muenster - 109F - JG3 - ? Lt Ludwig Haefner - 109F - II/JG3 - ? Hpt Wolf-Dietrich Wilcke - 109F - Kommodore JG3 - ? Hpt. Hansgeorg Baetcher - He-111 - I/KG100 Hpt Kurt Braendle - 109F - Stab II/JG3 - ? Lt Egbert Jaekel - Ju87 - 3./StG 2 - ? Major Hans-Joachim Gabriel - He111 - II./KG55 Lt Karl Lipp - He111 - II./KG55 Oblt Werner Lucas - 109 - II/JG3 SOVIET StLt Mikhail Baranov - Yak-1 - transferred to 9 GIAP (active from 10 dec) Major Dmitrii Valentik - Pe-2 - 284 BAP StSerzh Boris Gomolko - Yak-1 - 520 IAP - ? BatKom Aleksandr Oborin - Yak-1 - 563 IAP - ? Major Aleksandr Isayev - ? - 237 IAP - ? StLt Aleksandr Martynov - Yak-7B - 296 IAP - ? Lt Sultan Amet-Khan - Yak-1 - transferred to 9 GIAP (active from 10 dec) Lt Nikolay Karnachyonok - Yak-7B - 434 IAP - ? Lt Valeriya Khomyakova - Yak-1 - 586 IAP Serzh. Lilya Litvak - Yak-1 - 437 IAP (female pilot in male regt.) Kpt. Viktor Golubev - Il-2 - 285 ShAP - ? Polk. Vladimir Kitayev - Yak-1 - 283 IAD (not IAP!, he was Div Commander) StLt Yekaterina Budanova - Yak-1 - 437 IAP (female pilot in male regt.) Lt Petr Bazanov - La-5 - 3 GIAP Major Boris Yeryomin - Yak-1 - 9 GIAP (active from 10 dec) StLt Ibraghim Bikmukhametov - La-5 - 5 GIAP Mayor Vassili Shishkin - Yak-1 - 581 IAP Edited September 23, 2015 by =38=Tatarenko
Juri_JS Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 @TatarenkoWhy do your lists of aces show KG, Stg, ShAP and BAP pilots?
=38=Tatarenko Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Because I'm not sure if Patrick also wants top bomber and attack pilots. I've never used PWCG so they are there if he wants them or to be discarded if not. Just trying to help 2
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