Reflections in the water

[Uriah]

I noticed in some of the screen shots reflections of trees, hills, and sky on the rivers. Does any other sim do this? It is a pretty cool feature for an air combat sim.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Probably but it looks cool all the same

[Habu]

Rise of Flight does it.

[Livai]

Does it have refraction? Zak, said no! The game engine not support refraction

[Alkyan]

No water refraction? Too bad, it could have been cool for the upcoming submarine module..

[Uufflakke]

Does it have refraction? Zak, said no! The game engine not support refraction

 

The question was about reflection. Not refraction.

[Freycinet]

The question was about reflection. Not refraction.

 

Yes, I demand a retraction!

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Yes, I demand a retraction!

German pull out game is weak

[Guest deleted@50488]

X-Plane and P3D do it.... ( reflections in water, I mean... )

 

Outerra does it as well.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Il-2 Forgotten Battles did it and LOMAC did it and everything else since has done it too. But I do have to say that what we've seen of the work in progress shots are stunning and exceptionally well done.

[Potenz]

even the old 1946 has this feature

[Finkeren]

even the old 1946 has this feature

 

But there it looked like crap tbh. In RoF it's quite well done, and in BoS it promises to be downright gorgeous.

[Potenz]

But there it looked like crap tbh. In RoF it's quite well done, and in BoS it promises to be downright gorgeous.

Yeah, but for the time is was astonishing to see your plane and world reflecting like that.

RoF water is amazing but there's something that i don't like and hope it will be adressed

in BoS/BoM is the lack of transparency for shallow waters, using just a texture for it, that makes

it look odd when a plane crashland and the parts submerged disappears under the texture.

 

Now many games has through water transparency since the silent hunter III IRC.

[Finkeren]

Now many games has through water transparency since the silent hunter III IRC.

 

It would be a nice little touch, but let's be honest: Silent Hunter games have more use for realistic water effects than we do. We mainly need it to look good from above.

 

One thing I'm interested in though: Will different wind settings have influence on how the surface of the water looks? Will there be visible waves on the lakes in strong winds? And if so: Will raindrops hitting calm water create realistic rain ripples like this:

 

[Livai]

How it looks if a plane crash into water.. How bullets react with the water. There are a lot question but no answer for it. Maybe it is to much from everything

[LukeFF]

How it looks if a plane crash into water.. How bullets react with the water. There are a lot question but no answer for it. 

 

Load up ROF, and you'll have a good idea of what to expect.

[Livai]

Load up ROF, and you'll have a good idea of what to expect.

 

RoF is a 2009 Game. We write 2015 and here I expect more much more improvement. Maybe you can help me a little out with some screenshots from the newest build what improvements over RoF are to expect. Is this not a great Idea?  

[unreasonable]

Yeah, but for the time is was astonishing to see your plane and world reflecting like that.

RoF water is amazing but there's something that i don't like and hope it will be adressed

in BoS/BoM is the lack of transparency for shallow waters, using just a texture for it, that makes

it look odd when a plane crashland and the parts submerged disappears under the texture.

 

Now many games has through water transparency since the silent hunter III IRC.

 

The water in Russia is dirty.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Typically what is missing and hard to model correctly with water is turbulence of the water. And actually only very calm, almost still water is reflective

[BeastyBaiter]

RoF is a 2009 Game. We write 2015 and here I expect more much more improvement. Maybe you can help me a little out with some screenshots from the newest build what improvements over RoF are to expect. Is this not a great Idea?

 

It's the same graphics engine with only a few minor updates. It will look mostly the same I think. I think RoF's water is done very well though, so although it won't be new, it will be good.

[Alkyan]

But I remember something about their new technologies for water

[Dakpilot]

I believe there was a 'tech' upgrade with RoF in respect to water on the Channel Map, which I understood was not available on the default standard maps?

 

Maybe that is what will be integrated into BoS

 

perhaps there are those more familiar with the Changes/new features the Channel Map brought who could spread some light

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Potenz]

It would be a nice little touch, but let's be honest: Silent Hunter games have more use for realistic water effects than we do. We mainly need it to look good from above.

 

One thing I'm interested in though: Will different wind settings have influence on how the surface of the water looks? Will there be visible waves on the lakes in strong winds? And if so: Will raindrops hitting calm water create realistic rain ripples like this:

 

Water transparency would be great for future submarine hunter missions, RoF Channel map Water reacts to wind Settings

[6./ZG26_Emil]

I believe there was a 'tech' upgrade with RoF in respect to water on the Channel Map, which I understood was not available on the default standard maps?

 

Maybe that is what will be integrated into BoS

 

perhaps there are those more familiar with the Changes/new features the Channel Map brought who could spread some light

 

Cheers Dakpilot

 

Wasn't the tech upgrade for the ability to take off and land on water?

[Habu]

Wasn't the tech upgrade for the ability to take off and land on water?

Yes and submarine.

[216th_Peterla]

Yes and submarine.

Sorry to ask a silly question but what means submarine?

[Dakpilot]

There is a German

 

 

and British Submarine in Rise of Flight I do not have the Channel Map so am unfamiliar with them

 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

 

 

[6./ZG26_Emil]

There is a German

 

RoFUboat.png

 

and British Submarine in Rise of Flight I do not have the Channel Map so am unfamiliar with them

 

RoFsub.png

 

Cheers Dakpilot

 

 

Wow that is cool

[Dakpilot]

This vid shows reflections in water very nicely

Cheers Dakpilot

[SYN_Haashashin]

And the subs actually dive if they spot you, then all you can see its it's telescop....well those with good eyes see it hehehe

[Potenz]

but yet no water transparency to track the sub at periscope depth

[Finkeren]

but yet no water transparency to track the sub at periscope depth

 

That can wait a bit I think. In any case we won't have a map with a significant body of water to warrant such an effect at least untill we get the Murmansk map.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

but yet no water transparency to track the sub at periscope depth

 

Wouldn't that hammer FPS?

 

Is the last silent hunter DX9 btw? Just curious.

This vid shows reflections in water very nicely

Cheers Dakpilot

 

That really looks amazing, I really should reinstall ROF one of these days

[Potenz]

That can wait a bit I think. In any case we won't have a map with a significant body of water to warrant such an effect at least untill we get the Murmansk map.

sure mate, i'm not demanding that now, but it will be a nice feature eventually when the series moves to a more watery scenary 

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Some technology like this will practically be mandatory for any future escapades in to the MTO.

[DD_Arthur]

Some technology like this will practically be mandatory for any future escapades in to the MTO.

 

Mmmm....the med.  Subs, carriers, convoys, yes please.

 

Another view of RoF water technology;

 

[Goanna1]

Wouldn't it be good if we could use the Channel map from ROF in this series until we get a map with appropriate water bodies in it. Especially for the users her that have the purchased the ROF map and series.

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Wouldn't it be good if we could use the Channel map from ROF in this series until we get a map with appropriate water bodies in it. Especially for the users her that have the purchased the ROF map and series.

Devs already stated that the models, maps, etc from RoF are not compatible

[Goanna1]

Yes I think I remember at info, But would be good to hope. If compatible I would re-purchase map to use in Quick missions

[LukeFF]

Wouldn't it be good if we could use the Channel map from ROF in this series until we get a map with appropriate water bodies in it. Especially for the users her that have the purchased the ROF map and series.

 

Far too many changes would need to be made to make it look like a plausible 1940s-era map.