WIND

[darthdooboss]

Hi all

 

I'm a engineer & pilot and I would like to know if you have modeling the wind, that you have to perform the landing and takeoff against the wind.

 

There will wind sockets in the airdromes?

The ground control give info about the runway in use, wind, etc?

 

Thanks for your work.

 

Best regards.

[BeastyBaiter]

RoF has wind and functional wind socks, it would be odd if BoS didn't. And they did show a cross wind takeoff in one of the live streams. Not sure on how detailed the ATC will be.

Edited October 28, 2013 by =LD=King_Hrothgar

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Wind..Ha! I break it all the time! :D I hope there is some ATC..even if its text at the top of the screen

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Hi all

 

I'm a engineer & pilot and I would like to know if you have modeling the wind, that you have to perform the landing and takeoff against the wind.

 

There will wind sockets in the airdromes?

The ground control give info about the runway in use, wind, etc?

 

Thanks for your work.

 

Best regards.

Yeah not only is it modeled but I find it pain fully difficult to take off or land when the wind is kicked in RoF.  But those Kites are tough to sail.  And Im a terrible Pilot.

[HagarTheHorrible]

RoF was really good in this regard, it had open cockpits, so their was no problem with wind.

 

I'm also a bit concerned, because from what I understand the German diet, sauerkraut, causes lots of wind and firstly the 109 cockpit is rubbish in this regard because I can't open the canopy properly in flight.  I know the Germans went in for some of that kinky stuff before the war, but come on that was not only plain weird but that was more than 60 years ago, get with it, times have changed, we've moved on, even the Germans.  Seriously though, the developers need to cater to a far wider, multicultural, audience and we can't have everyone being subject to "Zis breaking of zee vind", just think of the poor Stuka gunner, it's inhuman, I mean no wonder they lost so many the gunner was probably unconscious in the rear.

[Primus_71]

From what I remember about RoF, the crosswind modeling has a critical flaw, in that crosswind forces the aircrat to 'roll.' In reality, crosswind does not force an aircraft to roll; you just need to crab a bit to follow your desired course. In RoF, however, the aircraft will tend to 'roll' opposite the direction from which the wind is blowing. I remember raising this with Jason on RoF forums and his saying that this flaw was deep in their atmosphere modeling and that it cannot be corrected by a reasonable effort.

 

Does anyone know that this has been / will be fixed for BoS?

[Sternjaeger]

well, if you don't keep your wing down there is an element of wing roll in real life. You can crab or put the wing down as you approach, it depends on the intensity of the wind and/or the size/type of aircraft, but if you don't do it the wing on the side where the wind is blowing might have a tendency to roll up, even slightly, and aileron action must be applied to keep it down. 

I don't know how this was modelled in ROF, but saying that crosswind doesn't induce roll on an aircraft is wrong.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Sternjaeger

[Primus_71]

Perhaps I did not describe it clearly.

 

I am not referring to landing in a crosswind where you drop a wing just before touchdown to line up with the runway heading using the rudder. I am referring to flying straight in the air where, to fly a specific course in a crosswind, you adjust HEADING to correct for wind, you do not BANK to correct for wind, which is the case in RoF, as acknowledged by Jason at the time.

 

It's been years that my ppl has expired as I do not do ga anymore, but I'm pretty sure that a crosswind will not force the aircraft to roll while flying straight in altitude.

[No601_Prangster]

The wind bug in RoF was fixed some time ago.

[Primus_71]

The wind bug in RoF was fixed some time ago.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I haven't flown RoF for quite some time so I wasn't sure if this was fixed already.

 

Cheers

[StG2_Manfred]

RoF was really good in this regard, it had open cockpits, so their was no problem with wind.

 

I'm also a bit concerned, because from what I understand the German diet, sauerkraut, causes lots of wind and firstly the 109 cockpit is rubbish in this regard because I can't open the canopy properly in flight.  I know the Germans went in for some of that kinky stuff before the war, but come on that was not only plain weird but that was more than 60 years ago, get with it, times have changed, we've moved on, even the Germans.  Seriously though, the developers need to cater to a far wider, multicultural, audience and we can't have everyone being subject to "Zis breaking of zee vind", just think of the poor Stuka gunner, it's inhuman, I mean no wonder they lost so many the gunner was probably unconscious in the rear.

 

 

Har har har, eating haggis and then badmouth German food? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...  

 

Also, if you haven't tried out yet give Sauerkraut a chance, I recommend. You can't imagine the pleasant and relieving sensation of a one minute lasting wet fart !!!        

Edited October 29, 2013 by StG2_Manfred

[Sternjaeger]

Perhaps I did not describe it clearly.

 

I am not referring to landing in a crosswind where you drop a wing just before touchdown to line up with the runway heading using the rudder. I am referring to flying straight in the air where, to fly a specific course in a crosswind, you adjust HEADING to correct for wind, you do not BANK to correct for wind, which is the case in RoF, as acknowledged by Jason at the time.

 

It's been years that my ppl has expired as I do not do ga anymore, but I'm pretty sure that a crosswind will not force the aircraft to roll while flying straight in altitude.

 

well there will still be the potential element for the tendency of the wing to roll, it is proportionate to the intensity of the wind vs the size of the aircraft you're flying. It would definitely be more pronounced on a WW1  biplane, with its wing struts and double set of wings, than on a WW2 aircraft, but it's entirely plausible, that's why it's hard to keep your course when flying in crosswind, unless you crab in the wind. We're talking about extreme weather conditions of course, with winds above 50kts, but he'd definitely tumble you around..

[HagarTheHorrible]

 

Har har har, eating haggis and then badmouth German food? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

 

Also, if you haven't tried out yet give Sauerkraut a chance, I recommend. You can't imagine the pleasant and relieving sensation of a one minute lasting wet fart !!!

That sounds fun, especially in an aircraft cockpit with no toilet facilities or heating.

 

I did try German army food once. I spent a week attached to a Mountain Jaeger Regiment in Bavaria many, many, years ago. I don't know if it was the normal German food or conscript food, but Yuck, I mean the tea, or at least what past for tea, tasted funny and looked like red diesel, it was bordering on the criminal to subject poor young soldiers to that.

 

All I can add is that it must have been very difficult to share an enclosed cockpit for any length of time with Herr Hienz even if he could claim to have 57 variations.

Edited October 29, 2013 by HagarTheHorrible

[darthdooboss]

Thanks for the answers mates.

 

I don't know ROF, I'm a player of IL2 & COD & LOMAC.

 

I hope to enjoy landings with crosswinds in the winter weather over Stalingrad...

[YoYo]

Hi all

 

I'm a engineer & pilot and I would like to know if you have modeling the wind, that you have to perform the landing and takeoff against the wind.

 

There will wind sockets in the airdromes?

The ground control give info about the runway in use, wind, etc?

 

Thanks for your work.

 

Best regards.

 

For sure, be sure, two weeks.

 

But seriously - it will be (data perhaps in the brief).

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

 

 

 I mean no wonder they lost so many the gunner was probably unconscious in the rear.

Or too busy gagging and coughing to shoot at all..followed by jumping out of the cockpit swearing to only fly single seat fighters from now on!