Upgrade from IL2 BOS to BOW for a discount?

[Theoask]

Hi,

 

I have a premium IL BOS account. Do I have to pay the full price to upgrade to IL2 BOM ? Is there a discount for those who laready have Il-2 BOS?

If yes, how to do it please?

 

Regards,

 

 

[SYN_Mike77]

No, they are two seperate and stand alone games. I bought Rome Total war and received no discount when I bought Rome II.

[Finkeren]

They aren't really 'stand alone'. The two sims will merge, but each has to be bought seperately.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

They aren't really 'stand alone'. The two sims will merge, but each has to be bought seperately.

 

They are really "stand alone" and 777/1CGS has, in an official capacity, stated this several times.

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

It's more like DCS modules, where each module is standalone from each other but all modules can be used from one client.

[Sokol1]

For play BoM will be need BoS (and vice versa)?

No, so a "stand alone" game.

 

But the planes from one can be use in the other - if the player own both - in some degree (QM, MP...).

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

For play BoM will be need BoS (and vice versa)?

No, so a "stand alone" game.

 

But the planes from one can be use in the other - if the player own both - in some degree (QM, MP...).

No you don't need BoS to play BoM. Having BoS however allows you to get into the early access rather then waiting to Q1 2016 to play according to this

[Theoask]

Ok guys..Noted..But please tell me: is IL 2 BOW a real improvement over IL 2 BOS or is it just a continuation with same graphics, same flight models etc? I feel like its more like an expansion, even if some of you say its a stand alone game. At least from what I heard and read.

 

Now I can't afford to pay 50 dollars more to buy Il-2 BOM. 25 US dollars I could however...But when do you think ther would a be a massive sale.discount for Il-2 BOM just like the 50% discount on IL-2 BOS a few weeks ago?

[Dakpilot]

Bom is a standalone expansion that will be able to be played on its own OR merged with BoS, so in effect it is fair to call it an expansion,

 

http://il2sturmovik.com/battle-of-moscow/

 

However all improvements and further developments that will happen for BoM will also be applied to BoS as they share the same game engine

 

In the future, when BoM has been officially released there will most likely be sales similar to BoS, the timeframe for sales would probably be similar to what happened with BoS

 

If you cannot afford the current early access price, better to wait until BoM is fully released, putting away $5 a month... the official release is + - 8 months away, then you will be getting the full product for your monetary investment, in the meantime you can experience the aircraft from BoM as they are released, but only on the receiving side

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Ok guys..Noted..But please tell me: is IL 2 BOW a real improvement over IL 2 BOS or is it just a continuation with same graphics, same flight models etc? I feel like its more like an expansion, even if some of you say its a stand alone game. At least from what I heard and read.

 

Now I can't afford to pay 50 dollars more to buy Il-2 BOM. 25 US dollars I could however...But when do you think ther would a be a massive sale.discount for Il-2 BOM just like the 50% discount on IL-2 BOS a few weeks ago?

 

I believe the marketing term that 777/1CGS used was "stand alone expansion."

 

I hope they don't bargain-barrel the game right away like you seem to imply the desire for... I paid down full on the product, I am excited for the product and I expect that when it is fully released that people will pay the same barrier of entry that the rest of us had to (at least for a while.)

 

I seriously wouldn't anticipate a sale any time soon... BOM will not be in final release until some time in 2016.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

I wouldn't be surprised if BOS gets sold cheap but not BOM

[[CPT]milopugdog]

From what I understand, BoM and BoS plane sets will be available from both clients, but singleplayer content will be limited to the separate BoS and BoM clients

[AndyJWest]

From what I understand, BoM and BoS plane sets will be available from both clients, but singleplayer content will be limited to the separate BoS and BoM clients

 

Highly unlikely, if by 'plane sets' you mean flyable aircraft. If you want to fly something, you have to buy it first.

[Fern]

I can see paying 80 dollars for a new theater like the Pacific or American/German Conflicts. BoM feels like it's a rehash of BoS. Yes, you're getting new planes and a new map, but I think they could of taken the Rise of Flight approach and let us buy single airplanes and a map for cheaper. The Channel Map in RoF is 8.99.

 

I remember the Ghost Recon Series. You had to pay for the Original Game($49.99) and then Desert Siege and Island Thunder. They were different scenarios/theaters/new weapons. That makes sense to me and I dont think they were full price($20.00). BoM is the same front as BoS. Right? Dont get me wrong, this is an awesome game and I thank them for their hard work. But dont you think it's a little steep for an expansion pack?

[Sokol1]

 

 

but singleplayer content will be limited to the separate BoS and BoM clients

 

The only real difference (exclusivity) will be the SP campaign in BoM (and BoS) - you can play this only in the correspondent game version.

 

Having both game version you can use BoM planes in BoS map in QM, user made single mission and MP - like people are done now with I-16/Mc-202, and latter you can use BoS planes in BoM map (QM, single missions, MP).

Edited September 10, 2015 by Sokol1

[Willy__]

I can see paying 80 dollars for a new theater like the Pacific or American/German Conflicts. BoM feels like it's a rehash of BoS. Yes, you're getting new planes and a new map, but I think they could of taken the Rise of Flight approach and let us buy single airplanes and a map for cheaper. The Channel Map in RoF is 8.99.

 

I remember the Ghost Recon Series. You had to pay for the Original Game($49.99) and then Desert Siege and Island Thunder. They were different scenarios/theaters/new weapons. That makes sense to me and I dont think they were full price($20.00). BoM is the same front as BoS. Right? Dont get me wrong, this is an awesome game and I thank them for their hard work. But dont you think it's a little steep for an expansion pack?

 

I think if they went with RoF model of sales it would be way more expensive to own all planes/maps. Also, in the beginning of RoF the prices were higher than today I believe.

Anyways, I dont think 80 US$ is cheap, I think its a fair price comparing what pay/get. My main problem is my country currency, right now if I wanted to buy BoM I would have to pay something in the order of R$300, which is really steep for a game.

 

Anyways, I'll do like I always do: wait for a sale. 

[Dakpilot]

I think when BoM has been out for the same time as the channel map then you could compare that price, although certainly not cheap (BoM) if you bought Channel map and ten  aircraft for RoF at release price it would be much more expensive 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Fern]

I wasnt around for the initial release of RoF, so I probably should shut my mouth about prices. I could atleast buy the map and one russian/ one german aircraft to get me in. I dont need all 10 aircraft. But if they're selling airplanes for $20.00, it wouldnt be smart to buy single aircraft and map, when i get 10 airplanes for $80.00 or $40.00 for 8 planes.

 

I'll probably spend the money anyways because I'd like to see this game continue. I just wish there were a cheaper way.

[SYN_Mike77]

I can see paying 80 dollars for a new theater like the Pacific or American/German Conflicts. BoM feels like it's a rehash of BoS. Yes, you're getting new planes and a new map, but I think they could of taken the Rise of Flight approach and let us buy single airplanes and a map for cheaper. The Channel Map in RoF is 8.99.

 

I remember the Ghost Recon Series. You had to pay for the Original Game($49.99) and then Desert Siege and Island Thunder. They were different scenarios/theaters/new weapons. That makes sense to me and I dont think they were full price($20.00). BoM is the same front as BoS. Right? Dont get me wrong, this is an awesome game and I thank them for their hard work. But dont you think it's a little steep for an expansion pack?

The channel map in RoF is $8.99 now.  On release it  was $19.99.  Add in the plane set and you get about the same price as they are offering BoM at.  You might get  more people buying it piecemeal than you would at  a fell swoop but then again, maybe not.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Admitting I've only skimmed the answers thus far, I think the solution to your problem (OP) is to wait for the inevitable sale. BOM will have a sale just as ROF and BOS have had many sales. The only downside to this is you won't see it until several months after release. Then you will be able to pay what you think is a fair price for the sim which will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 50% off depending on how long you wait after release. The upside is you will also be a few patches in and it will have many of the bugs already worked out prior to you flying the new aircraft. It's win/win as long as you have a bit of patience.

Edited September 11, 2015 by [LBS]HerrMurf

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Highly unlikely, if by 'plane sets' you mean flyable aircraft. If you want to fly something, you have to buy it first.

Yes, if have both, all the planes well be available from both clients

[Riderocket]

what do you fellows think of this idea...

 

After BOM is released in Q1 2016, they could make the I16 and 109E7 free... kinda like the demo in ROF.

and by doing this, people can "try" the game and its maps, Quick Mission, and Multiplayer (but not the Campaigns, which means unlocks are locked for both planes).

[Dakpilot]

what do you fellows think of this idea...

 

After BOM is released in Q1 2016, they could make the I16 and 109E7 free... kinda like the demo in ROF.

and by doing this, people can "try" the game and its maps, Quick Mission, and Multiplayer (but not the Campaigns, which means unlocks are locked for both planes).

 

Maybe also restricted to only using the Lapino Map, even online as well, to stop casual grieffers, that is enough to explore the FM and graphics and give enough experience to make decision on if interest is enough for purchase one or both of the full modules.

 

Free to play unrestricted access too online (even with limited A/C) could lead to many issues, sad but fair enough example of aspects of human nature today, from certain element anyway

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Trident_109]

They are really "stand alone" and 777/1CGS has, in an official capacity, stated this several times.

Not to be argumentative but that's BS. BoM is designed to be combined with BoS... just like Pacific Fighters was made to combine with IL2 FB/AEP. Yes you can play them separately but who's going to do that with BoS/BoM? Those who bought PF found out quickly that if they wanted to play online they needed to have a FB/AEP/PF merged install to have more online options or else their experiences were very limited.

 

It's splitting hairs I know but that's the reality of it.

 

I don't see a problem with 777 charging full price, though.

 

 

EDIT: If memory serves me, and at my age I'm not so sure anymore, but BoS went of a 50% sale at about 4 months after release.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Trident_109

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

-snip-

 

Not to be combative but they're "stand alone" and 777/1CGS has, in an official capacity, stated this several times.

 

I'm not willing to debate how 777/1CGS/average consumer define "stand alone" so I'm not going to... And you're right, it is splitting hair... It's hair splitting directed at the wrong person.

Edited September 15, 2015 by Space_Ghost