SCG_Space_Ghost Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Ford mustang??? Trust me, I'm a doctor.
XQ_Lothar29 Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 For me. comes out as the Bf 110, Mig 3, and P40.. and future aircraft much like me: Bell P39 Aiacobra DB-3 Bomber Bf109 G6 More important Bell P39 Airacobra and Bf109G6
-TBC-AeroAce Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) For me. comes out as the Bf 110, Mig 3, and P40.. and future aircraft much like me: Bell P39 Aiacobra DB-3 Bomber Bf109 G6 More important Bell P39 Airacobra and Bf109G6 Please no more 109s for the time being. My wish would be p39, hurricane, b25 Edited September 15, 2015 by [TBC]AeroACE
XQ_Lothar29 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Please no more 109s for the time being. My wish would be p39, hurricane, b25 True, I am a fan of the 109, but I think they are starting to go with as many 109, could make the cockpit of the Ju 52 transport missions with troops and military equipment. Bell P39 Airacobra is a beautifull plane and use in large quantities on the Easter Front. Lothar29 Drawing: Edited September 15, 2015 by Lothar29
Saurer Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Please no more 109s for the time being. Well there were over 30000 of them flying arround during all periods of the war, if the next expansion is not in the same time as Moscau or Stalingrad there will be new 109's Edited September 15, 2015 by Saurer 2
-TBC-AeroAce Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Yes I know it was obviously a shed load of 109s and don't get me wrong I love the plane. I would just rather we saw other types first. Maybe an inline 190 of a pure groung attack 190
Finkeren Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Yes I know it was obviously a shed load of 109s and don't get me wrong I love the plane. I would just rather we saw other types first. Maybe an inline 190 of a pure groung attack 190 I actually view it differently. One of the really great things about the old IL-2 1946 was that you could follow some of the plane types' evolution through the entire war (Bf 109, Fw 190, Yak, LaGG-3 through La-7, Pe-2 and IL-2 were the best covered) in this sim we'll obviously never see quite as many types, but we can get close. The Bf 109 is already covered from late 1940 to spring 1943. The same can be done for at least the Yak, the Fw 190, the Lavochkins and the IL-2.
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Yes I know it was obviously a shed load of 109s and don't get me wrong I love the plane. I would just rather we saw other types first. Maybe an inline 190 of a pure groung attack 190 "Inline 190s" didn't come out till late-'44/early-'45 and though they would be cool at some point I think it would be great to avoid any situation where "comparing models" would become standard... "Inline 190s" already exist in another sim... Aside from that, the Luftwaffe only had two major makes/models during the war... The 109 and 190 are it when it comes to German mass-produced fighters... And that sphere of German war-time production/development seems pretty anti-competitive when you compare it to the other countries at war. If they released an expansion with a couple more VVS fighters (there were many more makes/models on that side of the front...) what would you suggest they put out to fill the role on the German side? 1
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Their marketing model may run into some issues in future but as for now the F-2 and E-7 are good additions. We also have 3 versions of the Peshka (2 in BoS + 1 in Moskow) and yet nobody complains about that. The next scenario however, if still settled on the eastern front, must be after BoS in order to offer a proper planeset (with Bf-109 G-6/10 and later Focke Wulfs as german fighters) since most planes of the early eastern campaign are already covered by BoS and BoM (still hoping for Su-2, Hs-123, Ju-87 B, Ju86 R, He-112 and Ju 52). Hopefully some of those very interesting aircraft will make it into the game, although they probably won't fit their future marketing policy which is sad.
Finkeren Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 They would do themselves a massive favor by releasing a 'mini-addon' for BoM containing a Ju-87B, Su-2, earlier series of the Yak and LaGG and maybe a Hs 123. No new big map to make (which takes a load of time to finish) no new campaign (just incorporate the new planes to the existing BoM campaign) loads of stuff to get excited about. 3
Saurer Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 They would do themselves a massive favor by releasing a 'mini-addon' for BoM containing a Ju-87B, Su-2, earlier series of the Yak and LaGG and maybe a Hs 123. No new big map to make (which takes a load of time to finish) no new campaign (just incorporate the new planes to the existing BoM campaign) loads of stuff to get excited about. Or make it a bigger plane only addon with for example an early Yak-9, IAR-80 amd some other planes to extend both Moscau and Stalingrad 1
Danziger Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 MiG-3 I also would love an expansion set with planes only. More Yak and LaGG variants as well as Il-2 and maybe some Su-2 or Sb-2 and Chaikas... And whatever the Germans had too of course.
Dutch2 Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 I'm not playing BoS a lot, was always trying to fly the fighters, until I discover the PE2, like in RoF, WoFF and IL2-1946 guess I'm not a fighter type. So if we are talking about WW2 eastern front here is my fav. plane in IL2-1946 the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_TB-3
Dutchvdm Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 They would do themselves a massive favor by releasing a 'mini-addon' for BoM containing a Ju-87B, Su-2, earlier series of the Yak and LaGG and maybe a Hs 123. No new big map to make (which takes a load of time to finish) no new campaign (just incorporate the new planes to the existing BoM campaign) loads of stuff to get excited about. I think the Tupolev SB would fit in nicely. Although in the end i would rather have a battle of Leningrad expansion. It would be perfect for a long duration campaign! Grt M
KodiakJac Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 A flyable Ju-52. I don't like MP much any more (I still fly Aces High a little bit), and the thought of flying the Ju-52 in single player doesn't do much for me (being hunted down by "all knowing" AI). But flying a Ju-52 in MP sounds fun trying to sneak around completing missions unnoticed (or found out) by human pilots in Expert Mode with no icons. I'll bet a lot of FSX types would bite at that.
No601_Swallow Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 A flyable Ju-52. ... But flying a Ju-52 in MP sounds fun trying to sneak around completing missions unnoticed (or found out) by human pilots in Expert Mode with no icons. I'll bet a lot of FSX types would bite at that. Flying He111 resupplies into frontline bases on several online servers is great fun. Barrelling in to Gumrak and slamming 'er down on the tarmac as quick as possible is a great buzz. Maybe 20 minutes' flying time to get there, but then five minutes of seriously working the rosary while you're in the danger zone, having realised your squadron mates have all logged off and now you're all alone...
F/JG300_Gruber Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Flying He111 resupplies into frontline bases on several online servers is great fun. Barrelling in to Gumrak and slamming 'er down on the tarmac as quick as possible is a great buzz. Maybe 20 minutes' flying time to get there, but then five minutes of seriously working the rosary while you're in the danger zone, having realised your squadron mates have all logged off and now you're all alone... I think the point that a lot of people are missing here is that there are many pilots who want to fly the Ju52 It's not about the type of mission, it's about the plane you are flying and that is the point of any simulator. Or else we would all be playing Falcon 4.0 The Ju52 is an iconic plane with a long history. And I understand that people want to be able to jump in its cockpit. Please have a break with the "Then fly the 111 transport mission" answer. Why offering a flyable Yak1 if you already have a LaGG3 ? Why having 2 different Bf 109 ? Why do devs even bother to developp additional planes for BoM ? 2 more 109s and a mig3.... they are all the same plane right ? No, they have their differences, and this is why people want to be able to fly what suits them best, and why they are hanging here waiting for the BoM airplanes to be released. Some people prefer the yak, some other want the mig, and they will get both. But those planes have much more in common than the He111 and the Ju52. But despite this, only the IA have the chance to fly aunt Ju... and I understand this can be a source of frustration for people who want a radically different flying experience. Edited September 16, 2015 by F/JG300_Gruber 1
Matt Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Can't really blame the devs for not adding the Ju 52 with BoM. Not sure what makes a plane become iconic, but i guess all planes in BoS and BoM could be called that. Now the Mc.202 is a very strange choice, but the other four Axis planes make perfect sense and i could think of a bunch of German (or their allied) planes which would still fit atleast as well in the BoM as the Ju 52 and i wouldn't replace any of the planned four German BoM planes with the Ju 52. BoS is a different matter, but that's not the topic. If they continue with their way of releasing a pack for a different era (if they would jump to '43 or '44) with a new map and eight fitting planes and two "special" planes, it would again seem unlikely to me that the Ju 52 will show up in that pack. And i'm assuming, that they planned to release a map + 10 planes because the map takes roughly as much time as those 10 planes. Adding a mini addon with only some planes might work against that.
F/JG300_Gruber Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 The big difference with other airplanes that would fit in BoM or in the next episode, is that the Ju52 is already modeled in the game, and I guess that aside from a 3D cockpit and gunner seats view, everything is already in there to make it flyable. Maybe the FM isn't very accurate, but for such an old design I don't think anyone will complain about it's climb rate missing 0.2m/s. For the people that really like the plane, seeing it restricted to AI only may be a bit frustrating. It could have been the same if they decided to make the P40 or the Mig3 only available for AI
6./ZG26_Emil Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 With Murmansk coming a DB-7 would be nice along with the P-39 and Hurricane
Matt Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 The big difference with other airplanes that would fit in BoM or in the next episode, is that the Ju52 is already modeled in the game, and I guess that aside from a 3D cockpit and gunner seats view, everything is already in there to make it flyable. If it would be so easy to make it player controllable, I'm sure they would have done that already and put it up for sale instead of giving an AI variant away for free and earn pretty much nothing. I believe it will eventually become flyable anyway. For instance, if they would make a North Africa or similar '41, '42 battle next, there are not that many important Axis planes around that would fit and then it could easily become part of the planeset. That's if BoM/BoS will be successful enough.
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted September 16, 2015 Author Posted September 16, 2015 I hope for a flyable Ju-52 as well. It doesn't have to be in a new pack like BOM but just add it as a DLC for BOS. Like the FW and La-5. Regular transport missions already exist for AI but adding missions like this would be interesting: https://youtu.be/plI6pV7c9ew?t=8m57sFlying to individual units and drop supplies either via chute or just at extremely low altitude without the chute like in the video I hope to see a Ju-52 DLC after BOM. Right now, I guess all their focus is BOM and the new summer/autumn maps.
wtornado Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 I love the Spitfire MK IX and MK XIV In BoM? The P-40. The P-40 was the beginning of my warbird thing.. I was 5... my cousin who was 8 years older than I had a Cox P-40... I risked a beating to break into his room to play with that thing... more than once. The overall aircraft I am most looking forward to being modeled in this series is of course... the Mustang. Oh Bearcat do I remember the Cox P-40 it was beautiful.Was it like this plane with the little .049 engine? I was maybe 12 years old then. My father had to fix it up a few times with a hot iron and plastic to put the fuselage back together. Its last flight ended with an onboard fire caused but the airplane fuel made from castor oil and a touch of nitro. When the motor/fuel tank and engine mount caught fire the flames were invisible and the little .049 engine took off the front of the aircraft and smashed into the school fence much to my dismay. That was my first of many U controlled planes before we got in to R/C flying. Stopped it all years ago but it was fun.
9./JG27golani79 Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Looking forward to the 110, Emil and Friedrich as well as the P-40
Cryptonomica Posted September 26, 2015 Posted September 26, 2015 Most looking forward to the P-40, 110 and Ju-88
707shap_Srbin Posted September 27, 2015 Posted September 27, 2015 Without doubt, the bf 110. Yeahhh... We are waiting that bird much more
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