Request to the Blond Knight's and Ivan's

[Willy__]

The worst are the ones where the attackers just don't care whether they're shot down or not.  If they carry energy it's really difficult to get them before they shoot down a bomber.

 

 

Thats why I find very frustating doing escort missions on the public servers and thats the reason I keep doing it less and less. That and the fact that the russians usually dont fly close escort down low with the IL2s, they come up really high, about 5000m, just before contrailing. And people still question why we dont dive down low.... 

Edited September 9, 2015 by istruba

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Thats why I find very frustating doing escort missions on the public servers and thats the reason I keep doing it less and less. That and the fact that the russians usually dont fly close escort down low with the IL2s, they come up really high, about 5000m, just before contrailing. And people still question why we dont dive down low.... 

It's pretty bad with fighter bombing missions too; one time I dove to ground level to bomb a train station in my 109, and I suddenly had two Ruskies on my tail. Couldn't do anything about them of course, my wingman is useless doesn't understand tight formation flight, or that YES, I do in fact trust him with not hitting me 

[-TBC-AeroAce]

^^^^^ catch 22 people!! I'm safe in my pe-2 still :-)

[Bearcat]

I generally refrain from hitting anyone in the pattern with two exceptions:

 

1. I already caused him considerable damage and/or it is the continuation of a previous chase/combat. I can prevent him from landing any points, because it is a game afterall, and that helps my side from a team standpoint.

 

and

 

2. Based upon previous combat I am already forced across an enemy airfield, where someone is in the pattern as I flee, and it will not force me to deviate (much) from my current altitude or path to escape. Then that sucker is fair game for a single pass.

 

I never spawn camp. There is a certain lack of honor in it. My personal altitude for hitting a departure is around 4-500m. It means he has at least some speed and maneuvering available to him. You can see me tell my allies via chat to let them get up first. It is, after all, an AIR combat simulator/game. If you are just gonna strafe stuff hit the actual ground targets. You can rack up massive points by doing this and help your team by eliminating AAA. I've seen pilots take the top spot with one or fewer A2A kills this way as well if points are your only concern. All that said, I certainly don't think there need to be rules about it. Spawn camping just goes against my sense of fair play but gamers gonna game. It will always be that way in flight simming. Deal with them with the stated tactics posted elsewhere in tis thread and clear your airspace appropriately.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

You forgot to tell me how great my post was and that my hair looks fantastic!

 

[Bearcat]

Lol... Yeah.. I did.. Great post...

[=38=Tatarenko]

Just to be contrarian here's the opposite point of view - it isn't just an air combat game and I love flying the Pe-2, IL-2 and I-16 in the ground attack roles. I am one of those of frequently places at/near the top with high points and low/no air kills. If I have taken my Il-2 into enemy territory (often unescorted) and kill 6 tanks, 2 artillery and three flak guns and make it home alive then I'd expect points for that.

In the airbase raid missions I often do attack in a Pe-2 with no expectation of making it home. It would be lovely to mount a co-ordinated strike with 10 other people but that just doesn't seem to happen. That's where good co-op missions would be great.

 

As for base strafing - I was quite against it but when the I-16 came out do you really expect us to wait until your F4 is co-E with us? How daft would that be? If I can strafe you on the runway I will because once a competent pilot has taken off my little Rata is toast. The Flak is pretty strong though and often one pass is all I get as the rata is quite slow and seems to pick up a lot of 20mm.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

^^^ lol I'm like 80th place the last time I checked, in the stats if its the total targets. I'm like 800th for air to air only stats lol :-)

Edited September 14, 2015 by [TBC]AeroACE

[=38=Tatarenko]

Yes AeroACE you're even more of a ground pounder than I am.