The more I look at this aircraft(Ju-52) the more I want to buy and fly it

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

I just cant accept it as AI only anymore. I love Ju-52 and having such a beautiful model and everything in BOS but unable to fly it makes me sad

 

Please devs when you guys are done with BOM consider making the Ju-52 flyable

 

 

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/3892-post-your-screenshots-vids-here/page-27?do=findComment&comment=254530Thanks to =LD=Bis18marck70 for pics 

 

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Wouldn't they have to give the Russians something if they do?    

[ShamrockOneFive]

I don't get the appeal personally but I get the interest in it anyways.

 

The Russian side could use an Li-2 (DC-3 license build) and having a flyable DC-3 would probably be something that folks were interested in and that would see both sides with a flyable transport. I suppose it could be very interesting for some online operations. I'd fly escort anyways

[6./ZG26_Emil]

The more you can't have something the more you want it 

 

Each to his own 

[Neil]

Hi McKvack, many messages have been written for making the Ju52 flyable. There was even a poll.

It turns out that most of the forum community is for a Ju52 flyable. 

Even some people who would not fly it would buy it to support this beautiful idea.

 

The dev team is busy with BOM and has never talked about a flyable ju52 so far, but, I think that they would consider this project after BOM.

Someone even told that we could make a kickstarter to show our interest.

 

Lets hope that one day the dev team will consider this beautiful project.

Edited September 6, 2015 by Neil

[Y-29.Silky]

Wouldn't they have to give the Russians something if they do? 

But of course, this would be the perfect scenario for the Li-2! :D :D :D

[Freycinet]

This is a Combat Flight Sim and the Ju-52 is not a combat plane. I don't see it happening and I'd personally rather they focus on just about any other plane that can shoot its guns or drop bombs.

 

Even if it would make economical sense it would still take valuable developer/programmer time away from combat planes. I'd buy a flyable Ju-52 to support the sim but I doubt I'd fly it much.

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

This is a Combat Flight Sim and the Ju-52 is not a combat plane. I don't see it happening and I'd personally rather they focus on just about any other plane that can shoot its guns or drop bombs.

 

Even if it would make economical sense it would still take valuable developer/programmer time away from combat planes. I'd buy a flyable Ju-52 to support the sim but I doubt I'd fly it much.

It is a combat plane. It was used in combat(not effective tho) many times during the war. Both as a bomber, medevac and transport plane. Most famous for dropping paratroopers.

 

Just because it cant dogfight and doesnt have any weapons doesnt mean its not a combat plane

Edited September 6, 2015 by McKvack

[[CPT]milopugdog]

It is a combat plane. It was used in combat(not effective tho) many times during the war. Both as a bomber, medevac and transport plane. Most famous for dropping paratroopers.

 

Just because it cant dogfight and doesnt have any weapons doesnt mean its not a combat plane

That could have some nice mission implementations. Paratroopers would be especially interesting; since we've already got the parachute mechanics the only question would be what to do with the troops once they hit the ground.

I'd like to think of this like this game's photo recon. It's a little odd, and most probably will ignore it, but it would add to the uniqueness of this sim.

 

Another thing which I'd like to know is what to do with the He-111 if this is ever added. Would they just add a modification, or would it be like transport aircraft are now?

[Feathered_IV]

Flying skilfully and with stealth to get in and out of the combat area whilst fulfilling the mission goal can be every bit as exciting as any other type of shootin' mission.

[BlitzPig_EL]

They make great targets.

 

That's about the extent of it.

 

*EDIT*

 

When flyable transports and unarmed observation planes made it into IL2/46 via mods, all they offered was a short, slow ride to your virtual death.

 

Not much fun in that from my point of view.

 

Save the developers time for items that will see higher utilization rates.

Edited September 7, 2015 by BlitzPig_EL

[Sokol1]

 

 

 Both as a bomber, medevac and transport plane. Most famous for dropping paratroopers. 

 

The thing is nothing this is modeled in il-2's (CFS/G).

 

In old Warbirds Online we fly the Ju-52 - in that long 2$/hour routes - because the paratroopers on board have a real function, blow up the enemy control tower capturing the field.

 

For play "what if" transport missions, any bomber or fighter can do.

[Feathered_IV]

I flew dozens of supply missions and never once got shot down. Mostly because I plotted an intelligent course and didn't just go trucking into the target on a straight line through all the boy Richthofens. There comes a point in ones flight simming career that you eventually get so bored to the very core by the whack the mole fighter antics and the one-man bomber crews that you are just crying out for a new mission type. It's as plain as a Taliban swimsuit calendar that flight sims have been hemmorageing fans for a decade now. The crisis of creativity has to end and... Ah forget it.

[Neil]

But of course, this would be the perfect scenario for the Li-2! :D :D :D

Yes, the Li-2! 

Daidalos team are actually doing a flyable Li2 for Il2 1946!

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=15090&d=1439471261

 

This is a Combat Flight Sim and the Ju-52 is not a combat plane. I don't see it happening and I'd personally rather they focus on just about any other plane that can shoot its guns or drop bombs.

 

Even if it would make economical sense it would still take valuable developer/programmer time away from combat planes. I'd buy a flyable Ju-52 to support the sim but I doubt I'd fly it much.

This plane was used for combat, and it is a combat sim, so it is an interesting one.

Of course the dev time is valuable, but it is good to vary missions.

 

Flying skilfully and with stealth to get in and out of the combat area whilst fulfilling the mission goal can be every bit as exciting as any other type of shootin' mission.

I agree, I flew those type of missions!

 

They make great targets.

 

That's about the extent of it.

 

*EDIT*

 

When flyable transports and unarmed observation planes made it into IL2/46 via mods, all they offered was a short, slow ride to your virtual death.

 

Not much fun in that from my point of view.

 

Save the developers time for items that will see higher utilization rates.

Nobody said that it would be easy, but that is why the pilot must be skilled to plot a good course "infiltration" in a flight sim would be fun!

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

The Ju-52 definetely has it's purpose. It can Airdrop supplies and Paratroopers, Air Bridge and Ambulance Aircraft.

Add to all that, that it's a flying legend and many would simply enjoy to fly it, despite it's uselessness.

 

 

The Russian counterpart to the Ju-52 as an obsolete, underarmed, slow, back row war horse is definetly the Po-2.

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

The thing is nothing this is modeled in il-2's (CFS/G).

Then a Ju-52 DLC with the new mechanic would sell very well I think.

 

Imagine missions where it involves paratroopers to capture airfields, small cities and especially bridges. Now that the summer map is on the way, there is even more reasons for paratrooper missions. Completely new type of missions that we have not seen before  

 

And transport missions already exist for AI in the campaign. And medevac missions also exist in MP where you need to land and wait for wounded and then fly back. 

Edited September 7, 2015 by McKvack

[kestrel79]

I would buy and fly transport planes. If anyone played the old Air Warrior games online you could capture bases and resupply bases by flying C-47s. It was a lot of fun planning routes out of the way and trying to sneak into an airfield to resupply or drop paratroops to capture a base. It's kinda sad that a game that I played in the late 90's had more gameplay features than modern flight sims.

 

Maybe it could even bring non combat sim people into this game?

 

I'm picturing flying my wounded Ju-52 into a base to drop off supplies in bad weather as a really cool mission. More variety = more fun for me!

[Neil]

I would buy and fly transport planes. If anyone played the old Air Warrior games online you could capture bases and resupply bases by flying C-47s. It was a lot of fun planning routes out of the way and trying to sneak into an airfield to resupply or drop paratroops to capture a base. It's kinda sad that a game that I played in the late 90's had more gameplay features than modern flight sims.

 

Maybe it could even bring non combat sim people into this game?

 

I'm picturing flying my wounded Ju-52 into a base to drop off supplies in bad weather as a really cool mission. More variety = more fun for me!

Agree 

i remember that in first flight simulator, combat flight simulator 1 et 2 , european air war,

there was no bomber flyable. 

they did not want to make it flyable because they thought that no one would fly them. 

and now we have beautiful modelled bombers...sweet! 

 

and now it is the time for the flying combat simulation , to move on to the next step and make transport missions.

Sure it would be fun! 

[Blooddawn1942]

I would love to see this happen! Would bring a new dimension into this genre.

Also recon planes would be great, since RoF allready features recconaisance and artillery direction.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

One more vote for a flyable Ju52/Li2 package !!!

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

On WoL server on Sunday, Bent flew 3 he111 resupply missions into an airfield that was closer to the front line to open it up.... the missions are already offering these kind of features guys. Maybe not the plane you want to fly but it's close enough.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

I flew a few resupply missions with him as well
 

the missions are already offering these kind of features guys. Maybe not the plane you want to fly but it's close enough.

 
We already have fighters, attack aircrafts and bombers in BoS. Then no point to add a new planeset for BoM right ? 

[Feathered_IV]

On WoL server on Sunday, Bent flew 3 he111 resupply missions into an airfield that was closer to the front line to open it up.... the missions are already offering these kind of features guys. Maybe not the plane you want to fly but it's close enough.

 

Close enough would perhaps be some dedicated cargo loadouts for the He-111.  Not flying an empty crate with 5% fuel at full speed.  It should be a heavily laden aircraft resupplying the kessel.  Not the Kessel Run in eight parsecs.

[Trooper117]

lol... I see what you did there

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

Close enough would perhaps be some dedicated cargo loadouts for the He-111. Not flying an empty crate with 5% fuel at full speed. It should be a heavily laden aircraft resupplying the kessel. Not the Kessel Run in eight parsecs.

Sure.... spice it up a bit and put in a few variations and we have a temporary fix for the guys that want these features.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

I think most people here don't wan't to fly resupply missions, they want to fly a Ju52.

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

On WoL server on Sunday, Bent flew 3 he111 resupply missions into an airfield that was closer to the front line to open it up.... the missions are already offering these kind of features guys. Maybe not the plane you want to fly but it's close enough.

Why should there be a F4 when there is already a G2? Or why should we get an earlier veriant of the Pe-2 and il2 in BOM while we have later versions in BOS