M.C. 202 Series 8 Skins

[150GCT_Pag]

[geraki9]

Here are my first skins. I hope your comments will help me to improve my job.

I really liked achieve them, me brought back in time, when I was doing models

in 1/48 scale.

I thank all the Forum and = TIA = TBear particular, that gave me a good input.

 

Download:

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202s1_86sq-54st-16gr-Adriano-Visconti-MM7944.dds

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202s3_378sq-155gr-51st-+MM7848.dds

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202s8_386sq-21grCT-MM8122.dds

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2019 by geraki9

[J4SCrisZeri]

Beautiful skins, I love the winter one , downloading now! Thank you wor your work

[Weegie]

Not sure if its just me but when I click on any of the links it just takes me to my Dropbox login.

 

If I'm doing something stupid please let me know as I like these skins

 

Thanks for your efforts and kindness for sharing with the less talented amongst us

[dan54800]

My Dropbox .dds indicates that the files do not exist.
Thank you kindly give new download links.
friendships
DAN

[HR_Tumu]

Nice skins Geraki, thx for your work.

 

Its ok the download link? Drop box says me folder dont exist.

 

Thanks.

[=TIA=TBear]

Ottimo lavoro...great job

Edited October 23, 2015 by =TIA=TBear

[geraki9]

Thank you for your approval for my work but,
I expect from you also severe criticism to improve it! ;-)
I'm sorry for Ventus, dan54800 and RedEye_Tumu
cannot download the skins, however, it may be to blame
my inexperience.
I try to attach it again below. Please let me know
if you still have problems or if you know that I'm wrong
something!

 

Ciao...geraki9

Downloads:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202s1_86sq-54st-16gr-Adriano-Visconti-MM7944.dds

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202s3_378sq-155gr-51st-+MM7848.dds

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202s8_386sq-21grCT-MM8122.dds

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/IL-2%20BoS/DDS%20MC202s8?preview=MC202sV_Pegasus.dds

 

[Weegie]

Hi geraki9

 

I still get the same message as before

 

What you need to do after making the folder containing the skins is exit out of the folder then move your mouse over it.

 

You should then see a box on the right marked "Share"

 

Click on that and pick the option Send Link. This will then give you a link which you can copy and paste onto the forum.

 

I don't think just highlighting the link from the top of your browser will work, maybe that's why some of us are having a problem.

 

If I see anything that is worth commenting on I will, but I think the skins look great, I'll leave it to more experienced skinners and those with a deeper historical knowledge than me to provide constructive criticism

[geraki9]

Ventus you're right. The links I gave Dropbox clicking on "Share" are different.
I assumed it was my fault ...
I hope these below are accessible to all.
Many thanks!!

Downloads:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhadyg5ick2pcon/MC202s1_86sq-54st-16gr-Adriano-Visconti-MM7944.dds?dl=0

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qnlb53x6uw58uc2/MC202s3_378sq-155gr-51st-%20MM7848.dds?dl=0

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ycm7e3pvj49xe4q/MC202s8_386sq-21grCT-MM8122.dds?dl=0

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ibh4m1k1cqu1zw8/MC202sV_Pegasus.dds?dl=0

[Weegie]

geraki9

 

Download worked a treat, many thanks.

 

Look forward to trying them out in my new fave aircraft

[dan54800]

_{Thank you very much, Geraki. This time downloading your beautiful skins is done without problem.
DAN}

[4SCT_Vespa]

Nice skins geraki9

About the 1-378 skin, the Light Hazelnut Brown patches were a bit smaller then in your skin, leaving more and irregular Dark Olive Green room between each patches

 

 

 

I have to say that your paintscheme was used since there is a picture of a C.202 of Magg. Filippi, C. of 23° Group ( 3° Stormo) that shows those unusual rings...

 

About the Macchi C.202 86-8, in my humble opinion, the insigna and numbers on white-strip should be a bit bigger.

About text on tail....there is no photographic evidence or documentation that proves the yellow color...for what we know the text on fuselage and tail about model and weight were painted in Light Blue or gray light blue or black, lately in white.

[Sunde]

 

So many great skins here, thanks guys!

And just wanna know, is anyone making this skin? 

 

[geraki9]

Nice skins geraki9

About the 1-378 skin, the Light Hazelnut Brown patches were a bit smaller then in your skin, leaving more and irregular Dark Olive Green room between each patches

 

 

 

I have to say that your paintscheme was used since there is a picture of a C.202 of Magg. Filippi, C. of 23° Group ( 3° Stormo) that shows those unusual rings...

 

About the Macchi C.202 86-8, in my humble opinion, the insigna and numbers on white-strip should be a bit bigger.

About text on tail....there is no photographic evidence or documentation that proves the yellow color...for what we know the text on fuselage and tail about model and weight were painted in Light Blue or gray light blue or black, lately in white.

 

Thanks 4SQ Vespa for constructive comments!

As you know the photographic material is not available

is absolutely sufficient to meet our demanding needs,

so sometimes you are determined on deductions result

of more or less right.

Besides pictures in b / w do not help us and those few

Color, films made with Ferrania, confuse us.

The most correct way would not achieve, if not

it is in possession of evidence but pragmatic, passion

it leads us to want too ...

For example to 86-8 Visconti some say that was

a SAI Ambrosini V series but, camouflage and pattern

it would demonstrate a freshman Breda series I.

He will have had both? It would be worthwhile to try

with a seance!

I will check the RGB color well, so how will I

for your other comments.

Thanks again!

 

Hi...geraki

 

------------------------Italian translation--------------------

 

Grazie 4SCTVespa per le costruttive osservazioni!

Come sai il materiale fotografico a disposizione non

è assolutamente sufficente per soddisfare le nostre

esigenti necessità, quindi a volte ci si deve basare

su deduzioni frutto di ragionameni più o meno giusti.

Oltretutto le foto in b/n non ci aiutano e quelle poche

a colori, fatte con pellicole Ferrania, ci confondono.

La via più corretta sarebbe il non realizzare, se non

si è in possesso di pragmatiche prove ma, la passione

ci induce a volere ugualmente...

Per esempio per 86-8 di Visconti c'è chi dice che era

un SAI Ambrosini serie V ma, schema mimetico e

matricola lo dimostrerebbero un Breda serie I.

Li avrà avuti tutti e due? Varrebbe la pena provare

con una seduta spiritica!

Controllerò bene gli RGB dei colori, così come farò

per le altre tue osservazioni.

Grazie ancora!

 

Ciao...geraki

[4SCT_Vespa]

Thanks to you geraki, I really appreciate your efforts and skin and it's a pleasure to provide some help to improve your artwork.

 

About the 86-8 M.M. 7944, it's a I Serie Breda 86^ Sqd. 7° Gruppo, 54° Stormo ( Pantelleria ) probabily the picture was taken in may/june 1942.

As you can see the aircraft doesn't have cooling slots nor cockpit air inlet so it cannot be a Serie V; SAI Ambrosini started production in late 1942 (july-agoust 1942 MM 7959 - 8008 / october 1942 IV Serie MM 7409 - 7458)

The pilot in picture should be the Capt. Pietro Calistri even if Adriano Visconti too flew that machine

[geraki9]

Thanks to you geraki, I really appreciate your efforts and skin and it's a pleasure to provide some help to improve your artwork.

 

About the 86-8 M.M. 7944, it's a I Serie Breda 86^ Sqd. 7° Gruppo, 54° Stormo ( Pantelleria ) probabily the picture was taken in may/june 1942.

As you can see the aircraft doesn't have cooling slots nor cockpit air inlet so it cannot be a Serie V; SAI Ambrosini started production in late 1942 (july-agoust 1942 MM 7959 - 8008 / october 1942 IV Serie MM 7409 - 7458)

The pilot in picture should be the Capt. Pietro Calistri even if Adriano Visconti too flew that machine

 

... and I appreciate even more your sustained efforts for the enrichment of your culture in the field!

So the picture we see the poor Pietro Calistri ... The "mustache" deceived me and I exchanged with

whisker of Visconti.

If you allow me, I would take advantage of your knowledge a second time: "The propeller Piaggio".

I see different Macchi Castoldi provided to this propeller. Was it a replacement or was fitted as standard?

If it was fitted as standard, which used the factory and on that series of Mk 202 we find?

Thanks Vespa!

[4SCT_Vespa]

Hi geraki9,

the propeller Piaggio P.1001 was fitted as standard on Macchi C.202.

As stated into several technical documentation, starting from the early series.

As you can see below, C202 Handbook and Catalog parts ( comprehensive series I-XV) show clearly Piaggio P.1001 as propeller fitted on Folgore.

Weird thing..it's not uncommon to see C202 pictures with propeller marked with the wartime AerMacchi or Breda logo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[geraki9]

Hi 4SCTVespa,

...so I assume that the SAI Ambrosini, even in time of war, did not change the
Piaggio of the propellers, as they did in most cases Macchi and Breda.
My curiosity is the fact that I find it hard to recognize 202 of the SAI and thought
that the Piaggio had been left alone by the SAI, and 202 with the brand propeller
were the SAI but, comparing MM, was not matching.
So what makes me recognize an MC 202 SAI? Only the larger white cross? I don't
belive it. For example this 202, in the pictures that I attach, it has extended the
cross but the MM the complaint as Breda series IV.
4SCTVespa, do not send me to hell ... then for at least a month (if I'll) do not I
will ask nothing...

thanks ++

[150GCT_Pag]

Hi Geraki, the aircraft in the picture  (on the left is a simulacre) was built by SAI Ambrosini.. in fact the extend cross is used only by SAI.

Sai aircraft also had a camouflage pattern with bigger green blotches than Macchi and Breda built aircrafts.

By the way, the MM 7431 is from a Serie IV, built by Ambrosini (from MM7409 to 7458)

It was the first series built by SAI Ambrosini, the second was the Serie V, from MM7959 to 8008, but only 17 probably built.

The Breda factory built Serie I, VI, VIII, X, XI, XII, XV and XVI 

[geraki9]

Hello 150GCT_Pag,

indeed one on the left looks like a big toy of Corgi Toys ...
On your own post (http://www.150gct.it/static.php?file=static/Colore6.htm)
I had already read about the larger spots that applied the SAI but, under?
From what little I could guess, the pattern was more similar to Breda to
Macchi, camouflage also over much of the fuselage lower.
Even the well-known "Colori e schemi mimetici della Regia Areonautica 1935-
1943" I could not find convincing the news, and annex not illustrate the lower
parts.
Dark olive green spots large, regularly arranged and sparser, trademarks
Piaggio on the propeller, rudder white cross extended, could be true coloring
"under" specimen attached below?
Really thanks for your help!

 

Italian translation:

 

Qualche volta traduco in italiano perchè, pur capendo le ragioni della lingua
inglese nel forum, mi sembra buffo scrivere in inglese ai connazionali.
Già, per dove vivo, parlo greco tutto il giorno... Scusa il preambolo.

Ciao 150GCT_Pag,

in effetti quello a sinistra sembra un giocattolone della Corgi Toys...
Su un tuo post (http://www.150gct.it/static.php?file=static/Colore6.htm),
avevo già letto a proposito delle macchie più grandi che applicava la SAI
ma, il sotto? Per quel poco che sono riuscito ad intuire, lo schema era più
simile ai Breda che ai Macchi, mimetici anche su gran parte della fusoliera
inferiore.
Neanche sul ben noto "Colori e schemi mimetici della Regia Areonautica
1935/43" sono riuscito a trovare delle convincenti notizie, e nell'allegato
non illustrano le parti inferiori.
Macchie verdi oliva scuro grandi, regolarmente disposte e più rade, marchi
Piaggio sull'elica (se fa testo), croce bianca del timone estesa, potrebbe essere

veritiera la colorazione "sotto" dell'esemplare che allego?

Veramente grazie per il tuo aiuto!

[SOLIDKREATE]

So many great skins here, thanks guys!

And just wanna know, is anyone making this skin? 

 

 

 

You will have it on Tuesday 27OCT2015 (-8 GMT)

[150GCT_Pag]

Hi  Geraki 

Examining several C.202’s pictures, and as stated in the Massimello work (I colori del “Folgore” – The Colours of “Folgore” – Aerofan, 76, gen/mar 2001), the SAI built aircrafts should had a camouflage of dark olive green blotches over a light hazelnut base, extending on the under surfaces in a similar way that in the Macchi aircraft.

The tail cross was as specified, extending until the edge of the rudder; it is interesting to know that even the C200 previously manufactured by the same company  had this characteristic, namely the same tail cross, so we can assume with some confidence that this characteristic was maintained event on subsequent C.202

Speaking of the pictures, is the aircraft 396-2, named “Judy”, of 396 Sq., 154° Gruppo, based in Rodi, summer 1943. It’s a SAI Ambrosini built aircraft, with camouflage even on lower sides of fuselage, as said before; an old publication (Notiziario CMPR 84/2) say that, probably, the MM was 7437 (Serie IV). On propeller blades there was the Piaggio logo.

For the C.202 in fresh factory colours, it’s a plastic simulacrum, fiberglass with metal parts, built by Celin Avio srl, di Venegono. It was used by Aeronautica Militare to show in events and airshows all around Italy, without the risk of carrying around museum’s real  aircrafts, that may be damaged. Now the 365-1 is preserved in Volandia Air Museum, in Milan, along with a similar C.205.

By the way, you have a pm… 

[SOLIDKREATE]

I have to fix a few things. For example the insignia on the rudder is not not split properly. And the insignia's on the underwing are upside down. I also have to custom paint the mottling. Maybe some more wear and tear than I have added up to this point.

 

soon..............and I will be adding a Croat Russian Front M.C.202 as well.

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2015 by 6./ZG1=SPEKTRE76

[Weegie]

Spektre

 

Oh My.....................I'm liking that just as it is.

 

I'd greedily take that copy right now and then a second iteration later and fly both.

 

If you do not want to post a WIP on the board a PM'd copy would be greatly appreciated.

 

Anyway whatever you do I'm still enormously grateful for you taking the time and effort of taking this particular skin on........................Grazie mille

[TWC_Ace]

Spektre thats awesome skin. Specially for me hehe

[SOLIDKREATE]

Spektre

 

Oh My.....................I'm liking that just as it is.

 

I'd greedily take that copy right now and then a second iteration later and fly both.

 

If you do not want to post a WIP on the board a PM'd copy would be greatly appreciated.

 

Anyway whatever you do I'm still enormously grateful for you taking the time and effort of taking this particular skin on........................Grazie mille

 

 

Spektre thats awesome skin. Specially for me hehe

 

 

 

Thank you both. I'll release it tomorrow because I have school all night tonight right after work.

[Sunde]

I have to fix a few things. For example the insignia on the rudder is not not split properly. And the insignia's on the underwing are upside down. I also have to custom paint the mottling. Maybe some more wear and tear than I have added up to this point.

 

soon..............and I will be adding a Croat Russian Front M.C.202 as well.

 

 

 

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Thanks man! Great work. 

[150GCT_Pag]

After seeing the works in this topic, it made me want to try ... I've got a copy of Photoshop, and now I present my first two jobs (be patient, I’ve had Photoshop only for a month, and still I've a lot to know…     )

The first is the plane of the Magg. Luigi Filippi, Commander of the 23rd Gruppo Caccia of the 3rd Stormo, based at Hel Hemma, in Tunisia, in February 1942.

The second is the plane of Serg. Guadalberto Benzi, of 396 ° Sq. 154 Gruppo, based in Rhodes-Gadurrà, summer of 1943.

Now I’m forced to stop, the "trial version" of Photoshop has expired yesterday, and I have to get a new one … 

 

Download link: 

C.202 Magg. Filippi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p58xqrfxc4oskmg/mc202s8_23Gr_Filippi.dds?dl=0

C.202 "Mirka": https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyytkp0wrl0765i/mc202s8_396_3_Mirka.dds?dl=0

Edited October 28, 2015 by 150GCT_Pag

[KpgQuop]

That is seriously impressive. It's like you've been shopping and skinning for a decade or so. Bravo!

[SOLIDKREATE]

Generic Croatian Air Force M.C.202-8    v0.9

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DOWNLOAD:

MC202s8_Kroat Generic.zip

Edited October 29, 2015 by 6./ZG1=SPEKTRE76

[Yankee_One]

Great skins gentleman!

[150GCT_Pag]

That is seriously impressive. It's like you've been shopping and skinning for a decade or so. Bravo!

 

Thx mate!

 

Over 25 years of plastic modelling... Photoshop has changed my tools, but not the mentality...

[Weegie]

Generic Croatian Air Force M.C.202-8    v0.9

 

 

 

 

 

 

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DOWNLOAD:

 

 

 

Spektre you are da man

 

Thank You so much I have waited forever for this skin

[Dakpilot]

"Now I’m forced to stop, the "trial version" of Photoshop has expired yesterday, and I have to get a new one …  ;)"

 

There was a legitimate free non expiring version of Photoshop CS2 available for free download , I looked for the link that was posted here but can no longer find it

 

Maybe someone else has that info?

 

Cheers Dakpilot

Edited October 29, 2015 by Dakpilot

[150GCT_Pag]

Yes, thx, I have that CS2,but I'm thinking the purchase of CC15...

[SOLIDKREATE]

 

Spektre you are da man

 

Thank You so much I have waited forever for this skin

 

 

No thank you and please enjoy this skin. I have another Kroat coming today. It's an actual Russian Front plane.

[4SCT_Vespa]

Outstanding skins PAG and SPEKTYRE 

[Mihalich1981]

6./ZG1=SPEKTRE76

Super skin! Thx.

[SharpeXB]

After seeing the works in this topic, it made me want to try ... I've got a copy of Photoshop, and now I present my first two jobs (be patient, I’ve had Photoshop only for a month, and still I've a lot to know…     )

The first is the plane of the Magg. Luigi Filippi, Commander of the 23rd Gruppo Caccia of the 3rd Stormo, based at Hel Hemma, in Tunisia, in February 1942.

The second is the plane of Serg. Guadalberto Benzi, of 396 ° Sq. 154 Gruppo, based in Rhodes-Gadurrà, summer of 1943.

Now I’m forced to stop, the "trial version" of Photoshop has expired yesterday, and I have to get a new one … 

 

Download link: 

C.202 Magg. Filippi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/p58xqrfxc4oskmg/mc202s8_23Gr_Filippi.dds?dl=0

C.202 "Mirka": https://www.dropbox.com/s/iyytkp0wrl0765i/mc202s8_396_3_Mirka.dds?dl=0

 

nice, but dropbox links don't seem to work