6./ZG26_McKvack Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Hello My first question is: Can I increase the FOV in BOS? I have not seen any settings for that so I wonder if there is any file i can edit to get wider FOV? Second: How do boost/supercharges work? If i am right the german planes got WEP(not sure how it works but its some kind of boost, right?) but how do you use it? Last: What is the different ATA levels in the german planes you use for example dogfighting, cruise speed etc... I dont want to blow my engine up I starting to play more on expert settings so I need to learn a bit more Regards McKvack
Willy__ Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 1. You can "zoom out" to get a bigger FoV if thats what you want. One thing that I like to do is fully zoom out, get my pilot head position on the right spot and then save the view. 2. Boost and superchargers are two different things. Some planes have a boost switch like the La5 which will increase the engine perfomance at cost of heat, others you just have to throttle up, like the F4, if you throttle up past 1.3ata its emergency power rating (essentially a WEP). About the superchargers: the german planes have automatic settings and should not be a problem. The russian planes you should change to higher supercharger gear around 2500-3000m. 3. It really depends on the plane, but a general rule of thumb is: 109: 2400 rpm / 1.42 ata WEP (couple of min max) 2300 rpm / 1.3 ata combat/climb power setting (30min max) 2200 rpm / 1.2 ata cruise (continuous use) 2100 rpm / 1.1 ata fuel economy 190: 2400 rpm / 1.4 ata WEP (5 min max) 2300 rpm / 1.32 ata combat/climb 2200 rpm / 1.2 ata cruise 2100 rpm / 1.1 ata fuel econ Stuka: 2400rpm/1.3 take-off and wep 2300rpm/1.2 combat/climb 2200rpm/1.15 cruise 1
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 1. You can "zoom out" to get a bigger FoV if thats what you want. One thing that I like to do is fully zoom out, get my pilot head position on the right spot and then save the view. 2. Boost and superchargers are two different things. Some planes have a boost switch like the La5 which will increase the engine perfomance at cost of heat, others you just have to throttle up, like the F4, if you throttle up past 1.3ata its emergency power rating (essentially a WEP). About the superchargers: the german planes have automatic settings and should not be a problem. The russian planes you should change to higher supercharger gear around 2500-3000m. 3. It really depends on the plane, but a general rule of thumb is: 109: 2400 rpm / 1.42 ata WEP (couple of min max) 2300 rpm / 1.3 ata combat/climb power setting (30min max) 2200 rpm / 1.2 ata cruise (continuous use) 2100 rpm / 1.1 ata fuel economy 190: 2400 rpm / 1.4 ata WEP (5 min max) 2300 rpm / 1.32 ata combat/climb 2200 rpm / 1.2 ata cruise 2100 rpm / 1.1 ata fuel econ Stuka: 2400rpm/1.3 take-off and wep 2300rpm/1.2 combat/climb 2200rpm/1.15 cruise Exactly what I was looking for thanks! What is the ideal ata for the He-111? Atm I just reduce it a bit close to the Stuka and it seems to not explode but what is the exact ata for climb etc like you said for the other planes(if you know the He-111)? Thanks. I really appreciate it
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 12, 2015 1CGS Posted August 12, 2015 What is the ideal ata for the He-111? Atm I just reduce it a bit close to the Stuka and it seems to not explode but what is the exact ata for climb etc like you said for the other planes(if you know the He-111)? The manual covers that sort of information.
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) The manual covers that sort of information. Where is the manual(steam)? Cant find it :/ Edited August 12, 2015 by McKvack
Dakpilot Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Without trying to be condescending .. it is in the Manuals section, first post, stickied http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/forum/82-manuals-tutorials-guides-and-tips/ However I do feel it should be part of the game, but maybe will be included at a later stage due to all of the new A/C being released with BoM Cheers Dakpilot
wellenbrecher Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) What is the ideal ata for the He-111? Atm I just reduce it a bit close to the Stuka and it seems to not explode but what is the exact ata for climb etc like you said for the other planes(if you know the He-111)? Should be fine when flown like the Stuka, certainly what I always did. But when in doubt, remember that the ATA and RPM gauges have their safe zones marked for your convenience. Just throttle back ASAP after take-off, the engines are rather fragile when running maxed out. Also, did you see that the 111's oil radiator has a different control from the other planes by default? You can just use the same control binding as the others because everything else is overly clunky anyway IMO. But yeah, in case you didn't know, it might be that you just blew your engine because of it. Edited August 13, 2015 by wellenbrecher
Xenunjeon88 Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 109: 2400 rpm / 1.42 ata WEP (couple of min max) 190: 2400 rpm / 1.4 ata WEP (5 min max) Is the maximum length of WEP a strict finite limit? Like 2 minutes long use of WEP + 3 minutes long use of WEP 30 minutes later still = 5 min of WEP Or is WEP "reusable" after a certain cooldown period? 5 minutes of WEP + 5 minutes of WEP 1 hour later still = 5 minutes of WEP
Matt Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 It's a finite time limit, it doesn't "replenish" after taking a break. 1
Xenunjeon88 Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 It's a finite time limit, it doesn't "replenish" after taking a break. Thanks!
Xenunjeon88 Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 It's a finite time limit, it doesn't "replenish" after taking a break. Also, why is this? I'm not familiar with WW2 era aeronautical engineering, so I'm just curious to know why once you "run out" of WEP, continued use damages your plane. My guess is that WEP overpressurizes the engine cylinders to increase performance, but exposing the engine to this environment erodes the metal piston and its cylinder, which causes them to not fit as tightly together as they should, causing irreversible engine pressure loss and damage... But correct me if I'm wrong. I'm only guessing, as is.
xvii-Dietrich Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 Where is the manual(steam)? Cant find it :/ There is no manual as part of the Steam installation of IL2:BoS. Instead, search for "IL2 BoS User Manual" online. It is in the first 10 or so results. The direct link is http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/16752-il-2bos-user-manual-released-first-edition-english/ Click on the image in that thread to download the ZIP archive file Unpack the ZIP file to extract the PDF. Then open that. The recommended He 111 power settings information is on Page 71 in small print at the bottom of the page. PS: When I first started, I accidentally passed over this document, because I though "User Manual" meant how to run the software, rather than "ideal settings for the various aircraft". PPS: It would be useful to refer to it from the main website or, better still, have it as part of the game (I instinctively searched for PDFs in my installation when I bought IL2:BoS).
Matt Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 Also, why is this? I'm not familiar with WW2 era aeronautical engineering, so I'm just curious to know why once you "run out" of WEP, continued use damages your plane. The devs chose to model it like this. There have been a few debates about this and wether this makes sense or not. In reality, these time limits were mostly used to avoid excessive engine wear and tear, because unlike us, those pilots back then did not get a completely new plane with a completely new engine every time they took off. I can't say i like these time limits (especially the "time limit expired" kind of message popping up every time). Its purpose is to make people stick to historical limitations, because without these limits, they would fly with maximum power all the time , atleast in usual dogfight missions, where you don't have to worry about fuel consumption. It's one method to simulate this. I think it should at least be more random, with a chance of getting engine damage instead of a guarantee and then also the planes which didn't come with a time limit mentioned in the handbook should have a chance to suffer from this. 1
Xenunjeon88 Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Hmmm... An interesting dilemma... Perhaps one day, engine wear and tear would be modeled and would add to the game. Anyone know if DCS does this?
Willy__ Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Hmmm... An interesting dilemma... Perhaps one day, engine wear and tear would be modeled and would add to the game. Anyone know if DCS does this? I dont think any sim model that. Everytime you "spawn" in an aircraft, its "factory new". But it would be nice if someday they model it and track the usage of the engine, perhaps like a setting that can be chosen by the server hosts ? 1
wellenbrecher Posted August 15, 2015 Posted August 15, 2015 Well DCS has random system failure if you want, not quite the same I know, but the closest thing I can think of. 1
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