Finkeren Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 The winter war between Russia and Finland. I used to really enjoy that in the original (Forgotten Battles add on) FB didn't feature the Winter War (1939-40). Are you thinking of the Continuation War (1941-44) or some mod to FB?
Xenunjeon88 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 I am a simple man. Flyable Ju-52 Preach it brother, I would like to make supply runs in multi-player in a real workhorse like the Ju52 not a He111 labeled, "supply plane" 2
FuriousMeow Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Preach it brother, I would like to make supply runs in multi-player in a real workhorse like the Ju52 not a He111 labeled, "supply plane" And yet, the He111 DID fly supplies. Just one example: He-111 spending most of their time flying supplies Edited August 9, 2015 by FuriousMeow 1
Xenunjeon88 Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 And yet, the He111 DID fly supplies. Just one example: He-111 spending most of their time flying supplies Huh... You learn something every day. Thanks for this! Still want to fly a ju52. That didn't change.
Dakpilot Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 While the JU-52 is the Iconic German transport aircraft and rightly so, HE-111 flew 2260 transport missions into the Stalingrad pocket with a loss of 168 Aircraft, often it was only the HE-111's that could get through due to the terrible weather during the airlift and the lack of all weather instruments etc. fitted to the JU-52, which suffered 266 losses which is almost one third of the Lufwaffe's total fleet, a loss that was not recoverable from Cheers Dakpilot
Mysticpuma Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 I honestly don't know the answer to this, so in an online mission is it possible for multiple players to fly in a He-111? So bomb aimer, pilot, gunners, Navigator? I see posts requesting a flyable B-17 that is crewable but has this been done with the He-111 because if it hasn't I would see that as the first step in that journey? Regarding what next, fix and add the features the community have requested and then as an update, Leningrad or Kursk? My personal preference would be a P-47 (any variant) and this fits many theatres, but at the moment, get BoM out, get community feedback, listen, fix, update and improve the product by listening to the customer feedback, then set out the road map to the next theatre? Cheers, MP
Matt Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Every position in a He 111 can be taken over by a different player in MP. However, as there is no real bomber position yet, the pilot will be the one who will aim the bombs. The bombardier position in BoS is a gunner only for now.
Mysticpuma Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 Ah, okay. Thanks Matt. So maybe adding that feature would give a crew a sense of surviving a mission as a team? Now with 15 He-111's heading to a target vs however many places are left for enemy fighters......that would be interesting mission. The only issue I would see is with a B-17 and current multilayer limit, you could only have 5-6 in a mission (with all positions filled) to leave a fw slots for enemy aircraft? So maybe next on the list of things could be net code to get 100 players online.....then you could have fighter escorts for the bombers too
Feathered_IV Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 And yet, the He111 DID fly supplies. Just one example: He-111 spending most of their time flying supplies And yet there is no supply loadout for the He-111...
FuriousMeow Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 And yet there is no supply loadout for the He-111... So tell me then, how does it matter that the load out is "5 crates of blankets" that you land and they just disappear? The loadout is the least of the concerns since it is just imaginary to begin with.
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) And yet there is no supply loadout for the He-111... Or campaign missions(exist for AI tho) Even how the Ju-52 had great losses and was not the best aircraft at the time its so beautiful and iconic that I want to fly it Imagine being able to have a friend as Co-pilot(if possible) and he can take over the controls at any point. Id buy it for 20 bucks. First 3 engines aircraft to exist with a FM in any simulator game ever. Only that would sell I think. Together with some transport missions added in the campaign that can be flown with the He-111 as well. Edited August 9, 2015 by McKvack
Feathered_IV Posted August 9, 2015 Posted August 9, 2015 So tell me then, how does it matter that the load out is "5 crates of blankets" that you land and they just disappear? The loadout is the least of the concerns since it is just imaginary to begin with. My thinking was that rather than zooming towards the forward airfield in an empty aircraft, it would be better if there was a cargo loadout with its own weight and performance penalty. The ideal would be a standard, heavy and grossly overloaded option. With varying points awarded for the delivery of each. 6
Brano Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 First 3 engines aircraft to exist with a FM in any simulator game ever. Well,there is this SM.79 Sparviero in old sturm...so not the first one,sorry
FAW-Tromplamort Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Fiesler Storch and Po-2 to fly recon spy missions and night bombing dodging flak and searchlights... 3
TheElf Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Huh... You learn something every day. Thanks for this! Still want to fly a ju52. That didn't change. The Stalingrad Air lift was supported by Ju-52s, FW-200s, Fiat BR.20s, Ju-86s, and few He-177s pressed into service.
Cybermat47 Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 The Stalingrad Air lift was supported by Ju-52s, FW-200s, Fiat BR.20s, Ju-86s, and few He-177s pressed into service. Honestly, I want to fly all of them
JG4_dingsda Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Fiesler Storch and Po-2 to fly recon spy missions and night bombing dodging flak and searchlights... I find myself voting everybody up who mentions 'FIeseler Storch'. Must be some kind of strange reflex ... 1
ShamrockOneFive Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 FB didn't feature the Winter War (1939-40). Are you thinking of the Continuation War (1941-44) or some mod to FB? You could kind of do the Winter War with what we got in Forgotten Battles. It was much more focused on the Continuation War and certainly the campaign was. It was really only more recently with additions such as the Fokker and the earlier I-15 and I-16 models became available that we could properly and fully do the Winter War. Heck... most of the aircraft used are now all flyables. The SB-2 included. You knew that but maybe others didn't Winter War is interesting but ultimately limiting... the Continuation War and the aircraft in that are much more interesting to a broader audience. After building a campaign flying around the incredibly slow Fokker that really couldn't get into a serious fighter vs fighter fight without having a big energy advantage starts to wear on you. The B-239 and Hawk 75 vs Yaks, P-40s and Yaks is more fun!
TheElf Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Honestly, I want to fly all of them I would also like to see the Tactical Recon planes in action. In IL-2 1946 there wasn't much of a role for them, but the way the Devs have coded BoS, they can act as player flown recon planes using the little Radar ring around them on the map. So when the overfly ground unit concentrations a message is blasted to players in Ground attack Aircraft that come and attack the mobile targets. A great little mini mission and some diversity for the community. Imagine, FW 189s, Hs123s, Su-2, Storch, Po-2. They would have utility on the battlefield and could even be an objective of a mission... You could kind of do the Winter War with what we got in Forgotten Battles. It was much more focused on the Continuation War and certainly the campaign was. It was really only more recently with additions such as the Fokker and the earlier I-15 and I-16 models became available that we could properly and fully do the Winter War. Heck... most of the aircraft used are now all flyables. The SB-2 included. You knew that but maybe others didn't Winter War is interesting but ultimately limiting... the Continuation War and the aircraft in that are much more interesting to a broader audience. After building a campaign flying around the incredibly slow Fokker that really couldn't get into a serious fighter vs fighter fight without having a big energy advantage starts to wear on you. The B-239 and Hawk 75 vs Yaks, P-40s and Yaks is more fun! I love this idea...especially since the B-239, Hawk 5, and P-40 variants would fit nicely into a Pacific or even Burma Map. Besides who doesn't like the idea of more maps with snow...anyone???? <DUCKS>
ShamrockOneFive Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I like the snow! If it hurts your eyes turn down your screen brightness to an acceptable level
Finkeren Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I'd love to see a partly snowy map similar to the Winter map in RoF. An early 1943 Kuban map where the snow has melted along the coast and in the valleys but is still holding on in the mountains and further inland ooohh that would be dreamy.
4pg_inferno Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 NEXT must be another Eastern Theatre! I just hope it will be some battle in 1944, such as Operation Bagration
BeastyBaiter Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I like the snow! If it hurts your eyes turn down your screen brightness to an acceptable level My monitor is currently at 0% brightness with the in game Gamma set to the lowest value. I still need sunglasses at noon in game.
EAF19_Marsh Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 My monitor is currently at 0% brightness with the in game Gamma set to the lowest value. I still need sunglasses at noon in game. I'm with you; have managed to dial it down a bit but some splash of colour would be lovely If, and that's a big if, the team wanted to economise on development then a '43 scenario would be best and something that allows more Western aircraft (from a sales perspective); I would therefore suggest P-39, Spitfire and Hurricane along with Hs-129 / -123 as new models, La-5F, Yak-9, 109G-4 / G-6 and Fw-190A4 / A5 as evolved types and then aim for a Kursk and Malta map to be released by end 2016 / mid-2017. Longer term would depend upon success by Q3 2017
Finkeren Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 If we stay in the east, there can be little doubt about the planeset I think: BoK (Kursk) VVS: Yak-9 (with 9T variant as you unlock 37mm cannon) La-5F IL-2M A-20C Luftwaffe: Bf 109G-6 (early model) Fw 190A-5 (with F version as unlock) Hs 129 Me 210/410 Premium: P-39N Do 217/He 177 BoX (Bagration or Kurland) VVS: Yak-3 La-5FN IL-2M type 3 (Arrow Wing) Tu-2S Luftwaffe: Bf 109 G-14 (or late G-6) Bf 109 G-6AS Fw 190A-8 (F model as unlock) Ju 188 Premium: Fw 190D-9 P-47D Then release an extra plane pack for the entire Eastern Front series including some of the following: VVS: Hurricane Mk. II LaGG-3 early series Yak-7B or early 1 P-63 La-7 Yak-9U Su-2 Po-2 And for the Axis: Hs 126 IAR-81 Fiat G.50 (Finns and Italians) Brewster (for the Finns) Ju 87B-2 Bf 109 G-10/K-4 Me 262 Fw 189
Danziger Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I'd love some aircraft "expansion" sets for BoS and BoM.
Saurer Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 In the campaign stream a year ago Loft mentiont Moskau, Kursk or Okinawa in that order. Thats my guess were we are headed for the future.
Voidhunger Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 When was 30mm cannon available for the Bf109G6 ? I guess not at the time of Kursk battle
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 -snip- I'm liking the idea of having a bomber, the He-117 as a premium plane!
Finkeren Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 In the campaign stream a year ago Loft mentiont Moskau, Kursk or Okinawa in that order. Thats my guess were we are headed for the future. Okinawa? What a strange choice that would be. It would require an absolutely humongous map since the Japanese aircraft took off from Kyushu and Formosa, and the action would consist almost entirely of Japanese pilots flying suicide missions in obsolete aircraft and US/British pilots trying to fend them off while also attacking dug-in infantry on the island. No carrier operations for the Japanese and very little resembling an actual air battle. I really doubt they would choose Okinawa, if the PTO is up next.
Feathered_IV Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 I'd love some aircraft "expansion" sets for BoS and BoM. I'd love a gameplay expansion.
LLv24_Vilppi Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I love this idea [The Continuation War]...especially since the B-239, Hawk 5, and P-40 variants would fit nicely into a Pacific or even Burma Map. Besides who doesn't like the idea of more maps with snow...anyone???? <DUCKS> Hey! The Continuation War was from June 1941 to September 1944 so we should have at least of three cumulative days without snow in that period Edited August 13, 2015 by PitbullVicious
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