What would you like after BoM?

[No_85_Gramps]

+1 for Spanish Civil War and Battle of France.

[150GCT_Veltro]

MED off course, or at least Spitfire Mk.V, Hurricane Mk.II and why not.....a P-39.

[Potenz]

Keep covering this theatre first, when it's done, then move on.

 

Flyable Ju-52 and Fieseler Fi-156 Storch

Edited August 5, 2015 by Erg./JG54_Potenz

[A-E-Hartmann]

Méditerranéenne pour moi. Contrairement Finkeren, je l'espère qu'ils ne faire trop de versements front oriental. Il serait agréable de voir certains scénarios et des avions les plus chauds d'autres pays.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Eh bien, puisque nous avons déjà la plupart des plans d'axe pour elle, l'Afrique / Méditerranée serait logique. Je ne comprenais pas la raison derrière le choix du MC202 sur IAR80 et P40 sur P39, souhaite que je considère à la fois des avions plus emblématiques au théâtre de l'Est (et ils ne font pas sens pour BoM, mais Koursk / Kurban auraient été une option à ce moment-là aussi), mais si vous vouliez aller Méditerranée après cela, il fait parfaitement sens que la décision a été prise de cette façon.

 

Axe

 

Bf 109 F4 chèque

Bf 109 E8 chèque

MC 202 chèque

Bf 110 d'arrivée

début Stuka manquant

Ju 88 chèque

Je ne sais pas si le H6 Heinkel 111, il a volé ou si elle était une version antérieure mais vérifiez

Ju 52 chèque

début Fw 190 chèque

 

Alliés

 

vérification de P40

beaucoup d'manquant Colombie

 

 

Et dès que nous avons les premiers avions britanniques, nous pouvons aller à BoB premier et obtenir certains de ces gars qui jouent encore CoD ici.

 

Zettman

 

 

15 ans d'IL-2 couvrant le Front de l'Est ne suffit pas? Je Burnt Out of Flying Russes depuis si longtemps.

Il doit commencer par l'Italie, qui est le point de référence idéal pour l'Europe occidentale, quelque chose qu'aucun simulateur de vol a parcouru depuis 2002ish. La seule chose qui nous manque sont les avions américains / britannique et nous l'avons. BoM est pas entièrement libérée jusqu'en 2016, ce qui signifie Kursk ou d'une autre théâtre russe sortira en 2017 avec probablement pas de changement de la dernière en plus d'une nouvelle carte et les avions qui sont tout de même à la fin, la balle doit se déplacer à développer.

 

• P-51B (Peut-être même la version A-36 bombardier en piqué qui a été largement utilisé en Italie)
• P-38
• A-26
• Spitfire
• P-40 (que nous aurons bientôt)

vs (avion + nous avons déjà à venir dans BoM)

• MC202
• Bf-109F-4
• Bf-109G-2
• Bf-110
• Ju-87
• Ju-88

La seule fois que je vois un serveur complet, est quand il est en prime time en Russie. Ce jeu doit développer et de croître, la seule façon de le faire est de passer du front russe. Ça drôle que vous mentionnez Afrique. Les 202 de ont été retirés de la bataille de Stalingrad parce que les Alliés envahissent l'Afrique.

 

- 4 nouveaux appareils et une nouvelle carte est tout ce qu'il faudra et les ventes en Amérique du Nord ferait plus que probable ciel fusée.

 

 

Théâtre Méditerranéen de la guerre

 

 

10000+ MTO would really be the logical continuation .

[Spacesheep]

Allready mentionned multiple times but....:

BATTLE OF FRANCE

 

 

Oh well, I can be happy with MTO too if taking in account not only the Torch operation but also all what happenned in middle east  in Syria or Liban...

[TheElf]

This is a repost form another thread, but germane to the topic.  So...I reiterate...

 

I think staying in the East after the BoM installment is folly.  There are entire populations of Simmers who have steered clear of BoS/BoM to this point simply because the Eastern Front holds no interest for them.  I find this unfortunate and short-sighted for those people as the Eastern Front is absolutely fascinating for me.  But so is the Med, Pacific, China/Burma, Winter War, North Africa etc.  You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.  Simmers are known to be a stubborn lot of horses, even when dying of thirst, and they aren't all drinking yet.  If the Devs continue to show that they are a one-trick-content-pony they will be missing a great opportunity to capitalize on the Sim market and grab market share from the War Thunder Market, and get out in front of DCS and CloD.  

 

One of the strengths of IL-2 Sturmovik was the variety it brought to the community.  The BoS brand is absent that strength right now and would only remain a one-trick-content-pony longer while the competition rapidly expands to service the groups of simmers who desire other theaters.  They'd be intentionally leaving skin out of the game.

 

It's about messaging as much as anything else, and of late I think this part has been sorely missing.  If they are going to create ANY buzz about this product it's going to happen when the large holes in BoS are filled with a combination of highly requested features, and an expansion in content AWAY from the Eastern Front...for at least the next installment.  THere are lots of A/C that I'd like to see added to the BoS and BoM Theaters, but that could be done as single release add ons.

 

 

If I were King for a day, my plan would be to announce the 3rd installment of the Series as Either the Med or Pacific, knock BoM out of the park with the planned content and few of the top 10 features requested by the community, and continue to supply the Eastern Front with onesy-twosey content packs such as new maps and Objects, and Variants of current aircraft (to include add-on ordance packs) and release new aircraft in an "Adversary Pack".  Fw-190D vs. Yak-3 ; Hs-129 vs. A-20 Boston ; F2A vs. I-15/153.  The effect would be that while expanding into another highly desired theater the Eastern Front continues to grow in a sustainable, steady pace while maintaining interest from the community in the Eastern Front.  

 

At the Rate we are going, which is a good rate compared to the market competitors, we still wouldn't see another theater until 2017-2018 if the 3rd installment is another Eastern Front effort.  That is just WAY too long to ignore the rest of the world, and would be a missed opportunity for the brand.

Edited August 5, 2015 by TheElf

[Wulf]

I tend to agree.  However, I think realistically what's probably needed is a late war western european installment.  That would provide you with the cash cow to fund the other projects.  I'd rather have a late 41-42 installment set over France/Southern England, for all the obvious reasons, but if you want to get the biggest audience I think realistically you need something with a P 51 D and a bubble-top P 47 in it.    

[SuperEuphonium]

I would really like to see some late-war air combat with some Yak-3s and late Yak-9s against late Bf 109 Gs and maybe the 109 K. im not sure what battle would include those. maybe tge battle of berlin?

[Finkeren]

I would really like to see some late-war air combat with some Yak-3s and late Yak-9s against late Bf 109 Gs and maybe the 109 K. im not sure what battle would include those. maybe tge battle of berlin?

Vistula-Oder offensive would have you covered. It was more or less the prelude to Berlin and would make more sense, since the Luftwaffe was still an actual fighting force at the time, unlike the Battle of Berlin itself, where tit had practically ceased to exist as anything but a few rag-tag units that were mostly grounded.

[Ace_Pilto]

Maybe a lend-lease add on? P-39, P-40, A-20 and Hurricane???

[TheElf]

I would really like to see some late-war air combat with some Yak-3s and late Yak-9s against late Bf 109 Gs and maybe the 109 K. im not sure what battle would include those. maybe tge battle of berlin?

 

Battle of Berlin?  No such thing.  At least in the air.  By late '45 the the Luftwaffe had ceased to exist.

I tend to agree.  However, I think realistically what's probably needed is a late war western european installment.  That would provide you with the cash cow to fund the other projects.  I'd rather have a late 41-42 installment set over France/Southern England, for all the obvious reasons, but if you want to get the biggest audience I think realistically you need something with a P 51 D and a bubble-top P 47 in it.    

 

Why would we want this?  This is the direction DCS WWII is going.

[Wulf]

Battle of Berlin?  No such thing.  At least in the air.  By late '45 the the Luftwaffe had ceased to exist.

 

Why would we want this?  This is the direction DCS WWII is going.

 

Well, that's not strictly true.  The air campaign waged by RAF Bomber Command against the City of  Berlin from late 1943 until early/mid 1944 is officially referred to as the 'Battle of Berlin'.  Over 1000 bombers were lost during the Battle and of course many thousands of German civilians.  The Luftwaffe was extensively involved.

[TheElf]

Well, that's not strictly true.  The air campaign waged by RAF Bomber Command against the City of  Berlin from late 1943 until early/mid 1944 is officially referred to as the 'Battle of Berlin'.  Over 1000 bombers were lost during the Battle and of course many thousands of German civilians.  The Luftwaffe was extensively involved.

 

Ok, that is slightly different than what I thought Super was getting at.  He alluded to the "late War" and mentioned the 109K, which if you put it in context was no earlier than October 1944.  The war is over 6 months later.  What you are talking about, the battle of Berlin waged by Bomber command didn't include the Kurfurst, and occurred strictly at night.  While I think it would be interesting, A nightfighter "Battle of" add on wouldn't be popular with the masses I'm afraid.

 

My only point was, a Battle of Berlin with K-4s never occurred in the strictest sense that I thought Super was talking about.  Take the K-4 out and call it Defense of the Reich, Battle of Germany, or Battle of the 8th Air Force and you're in the right ballpark for the model they are using.  But I don't think this team will focus on a battle that isn't Russian.  Call it hunch.  

[RAY-EU]

Battle of Britain .

[Brano]

Developing fully functional B-17,B-24,Lancaster or Halifax would take one year each.Developing new map of higly urbanized areas like Rhurgebiet or even Berlin would take minimum two.Not worth time and money spent for unthankfull crowd who would,after first sortie,jump to the forums and complain how boring and biased at same time the whole thing is.

Fortress is flown by Jesus! All gunners in Liberator are Jesus! It is boring,all the time the same mission:I need to scramble,climb for ages to catch the box and then get shot by rear gunner Jesus! I need to escort the box for ages.It is boring and this game SUCKS!

 

[Dakpilot]

'Battle for Berlin" when strictly considering RAF bomber command consisted of 16 raids/ 9,111 sorties with the loss of + -500 A/C, 5.5% loss rate of the forces involved, over 5 months, all night raids, after march 1944 Bomber command was switched to be under Allied supreme command for build up to Normandy invasion.

 

Although the night raids were a very important segment of the War, the Battle for Berlin is really considered the 1945 land battle in 90% of historical reference.

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Feathered_IV]

Unless there are some drastic changes to the game engine it would be best to choose a theatre that only saw small numbers of aircraft in the air at one time.  The current Il-2 engine is not capable of supporting more than a couple of sections at once. 

[TP_Jacko]

When Tangmere Pilots used IL2 1946 we had some of our best coop campaigns in the North African and Mediterranean theatre and with the BoM aircraft set plus a few more aircraft like the Hurribomber, Spitfire and Boston one or two Italian aircraft. New ship would be Carriers and destroyer types throw in a submarine for good measure. The options for mission builders open up.

 

Then move into the Pacific for carrier action with Zero's and the USN aircraft.

 

If DEV's paint me that picture I will be happy

[Reflected]

Unless there are some drastic changes to the game engine it would be best to choose a theatre that only saw small numbers of aircraft in the air at one time.  The current Il-2 engine is not capable of supporting more than a couple of sections at once. 

 

True. This makes the PTO an ideal choice

[LLv24_Zami]

Eastern front would be choise number 1 for me. If not that then Mediterranean battles would be interesting.

[SuperEuphonium]

Was there really any late-war battle that involved the best soviet and german aircraft of the war?

[beepee]

 

 

but if you want to get the biggest audience I think realistically you need something with a P 51 D and a bubble-top P 47 in it.

 

Sad, but true. 

 

Of course MTO/Africa would be interesting.

 

Personally, I would rather see what we have expanded on and improved. Later VVS and Lend-Lease aircraft, with later/more versions of Luftwaffle aircraft would be just fine.

[CF-105]

I think that if we do another Eastern theater, it would be great to have a lend-lease expansion pack.

 

P-39

P-47

Hurricane

Spitfire

P-51 maybeish, the russians did capture a few and use them.

 

Would add a lot of interest from the west, and would flesh out the aircraft selection quickly, while letting the eastern front people stay happy.

[Matt]

Kuban and then MTO or straight to MTO. 

 

I'm kind of expecting Kursk to be next though, might work too.

[D.B.Cooper]

MTO/ North Africa.

[Bullets]

Battle of Britain 100%... Flying over the sea and those white cliffs of Dover!   Plus it would only take a modification of 777's existing ROF Channel map! That and I REALLY want to fly a spit or hurricane over 1940's England in this sim     

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

No matter what I might like, this game/sim has to get a better footing where it is before we go to another theater. Or so I'm guessing. But IF we want to dream based on the fact that this "IS" a great product, then I would say the Pacific.

 

Chief

[BeastyBaiter]

Kuban, Kursk or MTO with no real preference between them other than something in the summer. For the MTO, I think a 1942 focus with German aircraft skipped entirely would be appropriate. Instead of German planes, Italy should be well represented as previous planes from BoS/BoM already fill out the German lineup well for 1941-1942. To that end, an Axis list along these lines would work well:

 

1) CR.42

2) MC.200

3) Re.2001

4) Z.506B

5) SM.79

[Y-29.Silky]

B-17F (AI only but unlocked cockpit later with interactive AI crew) 

 

AI only? A flyable B-17 in the game would be absolutley ground breaking!

Battle of Britain 100%... Flying over the sea and those white cliffs of Dover!   Plus it would only take a modification of 777's existing ROF Channel map! That and I REALLY want to fly a spit or hurricane over 1940's England in this sim     

Cliffs of Dover was the previous IL-2 title

[Oubaas]

Flyable Ju-52 for this sim, with missions.  It played a huge role.  What role did the FW-190 play in the Battle of Stalingrad.  A Storch might be fun, too, as long as it fits the historical picture.

 

Then, continue developing the Eastern Front.  More maps, more planes, perfect what we have.  (I just took the plunge on the Deluxe Edition a few minutes ago, I still have to download it and get registered later.  I'll be picking up BoM Deluxe Edition at the beginning of next month).

 

After that?  Pacific carrier ops, North Africa, or Italy.

[BeastyBaiter]

AI only? A flyable B-17 in the game would be absolutley ground breaking!

Cliffs of Dover was the previous IL-2 title

 

Not really, a flyable B-17 has been done before along with basically anything and everything else WW2. It is a step outside the norm though. But I do see a problem with a heavy bomber like the B-17, they are associated with formations of 200+ aircraft. We all know how badly the game handles more than a couple dozen planes at a time. So for that reason alone, I'd prefer they stick with medium bombers and attackers as they are more at home in the formation sizes the game engine can run well.

[Ace_Pilto]

AI only? A flyable B-17 in the game would be absolutley ground breaking!

The AI couldn't possibly use the same FM as the player if we wanted big formations so getting a scripted formation into the game would be a start. I'm all for a flyable if that ever comes on the cards, especially with an AI crew.

[TheBlackPenguin]

Battle of Britain, I don't play Clod anymore and won't ever again as I'd rather have this team do it, just my personal preference.

 

Problems with the Bomber offensive is not just the amount of planes, rather the vastness of the area needing to be modeled, which at least East Anglia large part of France and Germany to at least Berlin and including northern parts like Hamburg, kiel etc etc. Then you get the ever advancing electronic aspect of it with H2S, Oboe, etc.

[Albino]

An allied heavy fighter (Mosquito or Beaufighter) or medium bomber (IL -4, B-25 or Blenheim) would be nice

 

I will be happy so long as this series keeps on going. However, if one must choose, the Mediterranean would be special. This would facilitate some delicious anti-shipping and torpedo bombing missions.

 

Regards

Albino

[SpaydCBR]

They should just make an "All of Europe" game. Then people could choose to fight in any front they wish in whatever plane they wish in an ongoing persistent war 

[Warhamm]

North Africa

Edited August 8, 2015 by Warhamm

[FilMit]

Murmansk

P-39

[Finkeren]

They should just make an "All of Europe" game. Then people could choose to fight in any front they wish in whatever plane they wish in an ongoing persistent war

Come back in ten years. The sim might actually be there by then

[Feathered_IV]

A lot of people are calling out for a Mediterranean expansion, but which bit and what phase of the war?

[pilotpierre]

The winter war between Russia and Finland. I used to really enjoy that in the original (Forgotten Battles add on)