Bearcat Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Folks in the interests of just trying to keep things open and flowing I have been very very lenient and open about the use of profanity on this forum. I would like to remind some folks here about rule 7: 7. Comments containing profanity, personal insults, accusations of cheating, excessive rudeness, vulgarity, drug propaganda, political and religious discussion and propaganda, all manifestations of Nazism and racist statements, calls to overthrow governments by force, inciting ethnic hatred, humiliation of persons of a particular gender, sexual orientation or religion are not allowed and will result in a ban.First offense - 3 days ban on entrySecond offense - 7 days of the ban on entryThird offense - 30 day ban on entry Up to this point I have just been editing posts and sending PMs.. but I keep seeing some of the same folks over and over again with the same stuff so be advised guys. I am going to start cracking down on this because I am getting tired of constantly editing posts and sending PMs with no change in behavior coming from some of the same constant offenders. I know we are all adults here but this is not the local pub or the corner bar.. surely some of us can communicate effectively without the profanity. 9
6./ZG26_Emil Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 I have social tourettes....I feel discriminated against 4
ACG_pezman Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) So have we had problems on this forum (or affiliated forums) concerning the overthrow of governments or inciting ethnic or cultural hatred? And, as a sub point, I consider the name Obama to be profane, does that mean i can't use it? And is there a list of profane words I can reference so big brother doesn't discipline me? Edited July 30, 2015 by [TBC]volc0m_ 4
Rjel Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 So have we had problems on this forum (or affiliated forums) concerning the overthrow of governments or inciting ethnic or cultural hatred? And, as a sub point, I consider the name Obama to be profane, does that mean i can't use it? And is there a list of profane words I can reference so big brother doesn't discipline me? First words on your list could be common and sense. That should eliminate most questions. 6
Leaf Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) I have social tourettes....I feel discriminated against Intercourse minorities! JOKE! Don't hit me Bearcat! Edited July 30, 2015 by 19te.Leaf
Bearcat Posted July 30, 2015 Author Posted July 30, 2015 Look cut the nonsense.. you know what I am talking about... and I am serious. The title of this post is pretty clear to anyone who can read. We don't have to go all around Dick's hatband with this...
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted July 30, 2015 Posted July 30, 2015 Poppycock... There is no reason to be so anal! 1
Potenz Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 So have we had problems on this forum (or affiliated forums) concerning the overthrow of governments or inciting ethnic or cultural hatred? And, as a sub point, I consider the name Obama to be profane, does that mean i can't use it? And is there a list of profane words I can reference so big brother doesn't discipline me? mate, you need some profane democracy!!! Obama is on the way
Feathered_IV Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 If there is going to be profanity and name calling, I prefer it be done in ye olde English. Verily sir, you are in congress. Congress I say, with the matriarch of your line! 4
Finkeren Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) [Edited]Just kiddin' I understand, Bearcat. Sometimes it's necessary to pull the reins a bit. Edited July 31, 2015 by Bearcat Language 2
Potenz Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) a flying... [Edited] Edited July 31, 2015 by Bearcat Obscenity
Finkeren Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Just for the record: Henceforth when I use the exclamation 'Holy sheet!' I am in fact making a reference to the Shroud of Turin. 2
Ace_Pilto Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 We don't have to go all around Dick's hatband with this... You said "dick". *chortle* Seriously though for a moment, Bearcat is very fair and lenient so we should take the hint. On this topic, I'm not a fan of censorship. It's a very culture normative sort of way to control self expression but we're stuck with it because people with absolutely no moral character are so easily "offended". For me, I think that 95% of people who get offended by things probably deserve it, As for name calling, I grew up being called names, as did everyone I knew. Showing that it got to you was a catalyst for more name-calling so you developed character or you got called names. Nobody jumped to your aid with a shining SJW shield. Sadly there won't be such a thing as character soon, nobody will have any because we all have to walk around on egg shells in case anything we say or do is offensive to people with no brains. It is immature though but name calling can be a wonderful thing. In fact the most creative and effective name calling I ever encountered was on the parade ground, there must be some special course in the ADF where NCO's and officers go to major in "Advanced Creative and Hilarious Abuse 101". Having to stand perfectly and still and keep a straight face while a reviewing officer threatens to "Rip your arms off, insert them into your ears and ride you around the parade ground like a pogo stick" to a recruit in the rank to your front as spittle flies from his mouth and lands all over your boots is a strangely exhillarating experience that no generation should be deprived of.
=EXPEND=Dendro Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Profanity is a strong indication of reduced intelligence and lack of maturity.
Finkeren Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Profanity is a strong indication of reduced intelligence and lack of maturity. Shakespeare used the F-word in a very modern meaning in 'Henry V'.
I/JG27_Rollo Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Shakespeare used the F-word in a very modern meaning in 'Henry V'. "Fiddlesticks!" ? Edited July 31, 2015 by I/JG27_Rollo
Ace_Pilto Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Profanity is a strong indication of reduced intelligence and lack of maturity. That would make the entire human race apart from a handful of humourless wowsers immature and of low intelligence... Hmmm, you might be onto something.
Finkeren Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 "Fiddlesticks!" ? Nah, I don't remember which character says it, but someone threatens to 'firk' somebody - meaning to 'f... him up'. Likely the first use of the word to not simply mean 'to penetrate'. At least that's what my English teacher told me
Feathered_IV Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I do feel a twinge of nostalgia for the old Ubi forums and their profanity filter. Poor old Dick Bong just couldn't get a look in.
AndyJWest Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Hilary Swank came a cropper on the Ubi forum too, from what I remember. Most unfortunate...
ST_ami7b5 Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Potenz still flying? LOL. Edited July 31, 2015 by ST_ami7b5 1
=EXPEND=Dendro Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Shakespeare, Chaucer, Tarantino etc etc.... all brilliant and intelligent BUT.... this is not a movie and there are children around and no matter how cool it is to swear, I certainly don't appreciate profanity around youngsters. To me, written (aggressive at others) swearing on a forum only serves to detract from any valid points that are being made and instead just give an impression of an angry drunk.Each word has been typed and most likely read for errors before posting, so carries a greater weight of 'intended offence' to the reader than normal/casual spoken language in a 'group of friends environment'.Also a lot of the body language and meaning in what we say is lost when put in email/forum, leaving us only with the words; again this amplifies the actual words used.Policing the forum isn't of concern to me, but if you want your post to be really listened to by all people, I'd suggested not filling it with swearing.PS. Swearing has it's place, and can be brilliantly creative and expressive; I'd suggest some Billy Connolly standup by way of example :-) This exactly ..... especially the bit about some members sounding like a ranting drunk, which I think is often the case on these forums.... btw... I don't know if you guys know of Trevor Noah who was recently announced as successor to Jon Stewart on the Daily Show. I went to watch a 2 hour show when he was home over here (south africa) recently, and not a single profanity was uttered. He had everyone glued to his lips and in stitches for the whole show and not a single bad word. It truly was refreshing. I never watched Jon Stewart but I imagine he also did not use profanity on his show? Edited July 31, 2015 by DendroAspis
Y-29.Silky Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Not talking about the F-Bombs or having profanity go overboard, but I kind of enjoy seeing a little, light profanity every now and then, and it can have it's place sometimes, gives the community a unique touch. We're all adults.. Edited July 31, 2015 by Y-29.Silky
J2_Trupobaw Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Yes, we can argue that the swearing does broaden range of things that can be communicated in any language, and language reduced to non-swearing words does lose some of it's expression strength... but things we are discussing on this forum can still be discussed without swearing, all we'll miss will be dramatic effect. Since Bearcat quoted a forum rule, I'll bring up another one: 21. The forum rules embody the will of 1C-777 Ltd., but may be enforced at the discretion of the moderators or other forum administrators and punishment may be softer or more serious than listed in the forum rules. In case of disagreement with the application of punishment, users can make an appeal with a personal message to the moderator/administrator of the forum. saying that how much swearing we're getting away with is determined by his common sense, anyway. I don't believe his common sense suddenly changed. He just let us know that bulls nonsense ends now and he's going to use bans where before he was just editing things away, especially against repeat offenders. Not that he couldn't do that before, or start banning people without making a statement first.So there is no point to start swearing in this thread now to see if he's serious, trying to dare him or seeing how far can you get. The way I read him, he's still trying to let us eat the cake and have it, as long as we don't spit the cake into each other faces. Edited July 31, 2015 by Trupobaw
Finkeren Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 In any case: It's in the rules, so of courseit has to be enforced to a reasonable extent, and if Bearcat is tired of sanitizing our posts, I certainly don't blame him for wanting to crack the whip just a bit.
TP_Jacko Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I must be getting older, Its simple just keep it clean.
Danziger Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I think that a lot of people forget that we actually are not all adults here.
Finkeren Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I think that a lot of people forget that we actually are not all adults here. To me, 'think of the children' has never been a good argument against profanity. I think it's very important that children learn to swear in a 'good' way, one that teaches them to speak respectfully to one another rather than simply refrain from using certain words. In my daily life I swear a lot (much more than I do around here) but I'd like to think, that I always treat people with respect, and that's what's really important.
Danziger Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 No I was just referring to the few very immature members we have here. I've spent a few years in the military and war zones in my youth. I've sworn so much that my sergeants told me I needed to cut back a bit. I still swear a lot around my buddies or coworkers or other people that I don't care about. I've noticed when I talk to certain people like family or people I respect and care about their opinion my swearing drops off sharply. I'm not saying to never swear. I'm saying that keeping it PG-13 and using it wisely can be done well but keeping it rated R or NC-17 just makes one come off as an ignorant potty mouth.
Bearcat Posted July 31, 2015 Author Posted July 31, 2015 To me, written (aggressive at others) swearing on a forum only serves to detract from any valid points that are being made and instead just give an impression of an angry drunk. Each word has been typed and most likely read for errors before posting, so carries a greater weight of 'intended offence' to the reader than normal/casual spoken language in a 'group of friends environment'. Also a lot of the body language and meaning in what we say is lost when put in email/forum, leaving us only with the words; again this amplifies the actual words used. Policing the forum isn't of concern to me, but if you want your post to be really listened to by all people, I'd suggested not filling it with swearing. PS. Swearing has it's place, and can be brilliantly creative and expressive; I'd suggest some Billy Connolly standup by way of example :-) Yes, we can argue that the swearing does broaden range of things that can be communicated in any language, and language reduced to non-swearing words does lose some of it's expression strength... but things we are discussing on this forum can still be discussed without swearing, all we'll miss will be dramatic effect. Since Bearcat quoted a forum rule, I'll bring up another one: saying that how much swearing we're getting away with is determined by his common sense, anyway. I don't believe his common sense suddenly changed. He just let us know that bulls nonsense ends now and he's going to use bans where before he was just editing things away, especially against repeat offenders. Not that he couldn't do that before, or start banning people without making a statement first. So there is no point to start swearing in this thread now to see if he's serious, trying to dare him or seeing how far can you get. The way I read him, he's still trying to let us eat the cake and have it, as long as we don't spit the cake into each other faces. By the way Dick's hatband was an expression my grandfather used to convey the idea of running around in circles endlessly.. like a hatband.
unreasonable Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 By the way Dick's hatband was an expression my grandfather used to convey the idea of running around in circles endlessly.. like a hatband. I was wondering about that: all I could find for it was "tight as Dick's headband" and "queer as Dick's headband". Strange expression. Further investigation suggests that the expression is of English origin but the reference is unclear. http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-dic2.htm
Nil Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 7. Comments containing profanity, personal insults, accusations of cheating, excessive rudeness, vulgarity, drug propaganda, political and religious discussion and propaganda, all manifestations of Nazism and racist statements, calls to overthrow governments by force, inciting ethnic hatred, humiliation of persons of a particular gender, sexual orientation or religion are not allowed and will result in a ban. Why isn't all manifestations of Communism among them?
Feathered_IV Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Alluding to the size of a members hatband is okay though.
Trident_109 Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 You can prick your finger... but you can't finger your prick.
Finkeren Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 You can prick your finger... but you can't finger your prick. Oh, you are sooooo wrong.... But for your own sake: Don't Google it!
Ace_Pilto Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Oh, you are sooooo wrong.... But for your own sake: Don't Google it! You know... I wasn't going to say it, I even started typing a response.... Well, hang around the internet long enough and you learn that people are capable of all kind of extraordinary things.
Bearcat Posted August 3, 2015 Author Posted August 3, 2015 Why isn't all manifestations of Communism among them? Let's just not go there in this thread OK.. Look some of you can joke around and make light if you want to but it is obvious to me that some of you seem to think this is a joke. 1
J2_Trupobaw Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Look some of you can joke around and make light if you want to but it is obvious to me that some of you seem to think this is a joke. Just carry on like you orginally intendend when making this thread .
Finkeren Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Well, hang around the internet long enough and you learn that people are capable of all kind of extraordinary things. Ain't that the truth *shudder* I've propably seen enough stuff to give me severe PTSD if it wasn't for the safety of seeing it through a computer monitor in a darkened room at 2:00AM. Just carry on like you orginally intendend when making this thread . He already has I'm back from a (well deserved) three day ban.
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