How does the game works on Windows 10

[=LD=Strat]

Updated from Win 7 to 10 and right away noticed I could actually see far away aircraft against the ground and no longer had issues with the clouds rendering. Possibly the Nvidia driver release for Win 10? I've always been tweaking those settings and researching which driver releases I should go for and what not.

[Dakpilot]

Updated from Win 7 to 10 and right away noticed I could actually see far away aircraft against the ground and no longer had issues with the clouds rendering. Possibly the Nvidia driver release for Win 10? I've always been tweaking those settings and researching which driver releases I should go for and what not.

 

Sounds good, have also read about a lot of improvements with AMD as well, but not yet specifically related to BoS or DX9

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[TWC_Ace]

Updated from Win 7 to 10 and right away noticed I could actually see far away aircraft against the ground and no longer had issues with the clouds rendering. Possibly the Nvidia driver release for Win 10? I've always been tweaking those settings and researching which driver releases I should go for and what not.

That doesnt make sense. Game is DX9.

[=LD=Strat]

I built this system a couple years ago and have run Win 7 64 bit up until now (with two complete OS reinstalls) Core i5 3.2, 16gb ram, SSD started with a GTX 760 and upgraded to a 970 back in February (Fresh win 7 install)... Nothing I have tweaked in settings up until now has made long distance visuals any easier to pick out from the surrounding terrain. I was surprised to say the least and have no idea why this made such a big difference.

Edited July 31, 2015 by =LD=Strat

[Wandalen]

I could actually see far away aircraft against the ground and no longer had issues with the clouds rendering.

Thats great news! Tanks for the feeback

[Voidhunger]

One thing got worse when upgraded to Win10. I get loud crack or click sound when launching BoS. I am using headphones and it`s very annoying. I start Opentrack before launching the game and I don`t always remember to take headphones off.

 

Anyone else have have this problem? What could be the cause?

Yes i have same cracking sound too

[LLv24_Zami]

Yes i have same cracking sound too

 

No other games or programs do that. Must be something to do with BoS sound software.

[WWDubya]

Windows 8 was / is perfectly usable on a desktop system ..

 

Meanwhile I´ve upgraded to Win 10 too because I was gonna do a reinstall of my system anyways .. so far no problems.

Everything is running fine - including Track IR, X-55, BoS ..

How did you get the x55 to work? That's the only thing that went sideways for me regarding my Win10 update. No note on Saitek's site about any driver updates or Win10 workarounds... at least none that I could find.

[9./JG27golani79]

How did you get the x55 to work? That's the only thing that went sideways for me regarding my Win10 update. No note on Saitek's site about any driver updates or Win10 workarounds... at least none that I could find.

 

Are you using the Saitek software for your key bindings?

Because I´m using ingame settings for binding keys / axis and this works fine for me - haven´t tried out the software yet.

[No_85_Gramps]

Like Golani, mine is working fine w/o using the Saitek software for key bindings, just the drivers.

[WWDubya]

Only one "control" is bound using the Saitek sofware. Everything else is through the game(s). Though, I do believe that I'd used the Saitek input curvature utility to change the sensitivity to the stick... and the stick and rudder are the only things that are not performing... all the buttons on the stick and the whole throttle assembly are fine; just my X, Y, and Z axis are kaput. 

 

Would you recommend that I uninstall the whole Saitek suite and then re-install just the drivers?  I'll try and see what happens. Thanks for the input! 

Edited August 6, 2015 by WWDubya

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

Well I bit the bullet and installed Windows 10. The story goes like this ..... I'm running Windows 7 Pro on a fair sized SSD. Well even though I really tried to keep nothing but windows on it several things snuck past me on there. Well you need at least 5 gigs free to install Windows 10. I had 4.5 Gigs ......imagine Linus in Peanuts screaming .... yea. So I set out to "uninstall" enough to do the Windows 10 fandango. Nothing I uninstalled seemed to make much a difference so I decided to just put-it-off. Well as the story goes, I had both this new computer on and the old computer on and I was working on the old computer when DING .... I got notification that Windows 10 had downloaded and was ready for install on the new computer.

 

Really? Really ... well I procedded on and it installed with very little problems. I had to install my graphics drivers manually for some reason but with several reboots it all did fine. It would seem that everything was working. Now for the games ....

 

I Checked out all my games and they all seemed to work fine ...

 

Rise of Flight

Battle of Stalingrad

DCS

ArmA 3

Diablo 3

Skyrim

Witcher 3 (In fact here I had the latest update that simple would not run in Windows 7 but ran fine in Windows 10)

Diablo 3 and

Alien Isolation ....

 

So my consensous is that "so far" Windows 10 works well with everything, OR I'm just plain lucky (so far) ....

 

OH, I'm running an intel processor i7-4790 @4.00 ghz, and an Nvidia GTX 970 card with 4 gigs (3.5) ....

 

Chief

Edited August 6, 2015 by -NW-ChiefRedCloud

[9./JG27golani79]

Only one "control" is bound using the Saitek sofware. Everything else is through the game(s). Though, I do believe that I'd used the Saitek input curvature utility to change the sensitivity to the stick... and the stick and rudder are the only things that are not performing... all the buttons on the stick and the whole throttle assembly are fine; just my X, Y, and Z axis are kaput. 

 

Would you recommend that I uninstall the whole Saitek suite and then re-install just the drivers?  I'll try and see what happens. Thanks for the input! 

 

I couldn´t get my Saitek Combat Pedals to work without the Saitek Software - so might be that you need to install it even though you wont use it.

Edited August 7, 2015 by 9./JG27golani79

[LLv44_Mprhead]

After quick testing everything seemed to be working fine.

[CheeseGromit]

The game works fine for me but unplugging my joystick from USB causes issues with my mouse. If I look around the internet it seems to be something others have mentioned with Saitek joysticks.

 

Hopefully the temporary solution is to remember not to unplug the joystick unless I've shut down the PC first.

[Voidhunger]

hmmm i have played a lot on win 10 and i have worse performance than on win 7.

 

with my recently bought gtx 980 my fps was constant 60 on ultra settings ( hdr off and 2x AA) at low altitude with 4x4 planes. (novosokolniky map)

Now on win 10 my fps drops to 41-51 at same settings. overclocking gpu didnt help. I also have some stuttering now.

[9./JG27golani79]

hmmm i have played a lot on win 10 and i have worse performance than on win 7.

 

Have you done a clean install or an upgrade?

In case of the latter you might want to try a clean install.

Edited August 9, 2015 by 9./JG27golani79

[Voidhunger]

Have you done a clean install or an upgrade?

In case of the latter you might want to try a clean install.

clean install

[Urra]

hmmm i have played a lot on win 10 and i have worse performance than on win 7.

 

with my recently bought gtx 980 my fps was constant 60 on ultra settings ( hdr off and 2x AA) at low altitude with 4x4 planes. (novosokolniky map)

Now on win 10 my fps drops to 41-51 at same settings. overclocking gpu didnt help. I also have some stuttering now.

Yea, switching to 10 didn't help. If anything I lost about 10-5fps. And my x55 is a now a paper weight. Edited August 9, 2015 by roaming_gnome

[No_85_Gramps]

Yea, switching to 10 didn't help. If anything I lost about 10-5fps. And my x55 is a now a paper weight.

After using a few versions of the  WIn 10 TP and now the release version, I have not noticed any significant change in BOS performance. My X55 is working fine. Unfortunately if you search around the web there are lots of problems w/folks updating to 10. It takes a lot of perseverance and patience upgrading and/or doing a clean install.

[Urra]

After using a few versions of the  WIn 10 TP and now the release version, I have not noticed any significant change in BOS performance. My X55 is working fine. Unfortunately if you search around the web there are lots of problems w/folks updating to 10. It takes a lot of perseverance and patience upgrading and/or doing a clean install.

 

its hard to notice the frame rate change, if there is in fact a decrease it's small, how did you get your x55 to not crash the computer?  it does it every time I unplug It or change the layout.  The key input gets stuck randomly on it as well. Hitting a switch to give me the "G" key for the gear will run it 20 times per second, pause and then run another 20, on/off sequences.  it just isn't usable, unfortunately.  

[Sokol1]

Other X-55 users relate these issues (other forum).

 

Why, until Saitek do new drivers for Win'10 (promised), stop use X-55 software (the keymapper), and use a 3rd part like Koy2Key, XPadder, (both "bullet proof") or assign the joy/throttle buttons direct in game GUI?

[Urra]

Other X-55 users relate these issues (other forum).

 

Why, until Saitek do new drivers for Win'10 (promised), stop use X-55 software (the keymapper), and use a 3rd part like Koy2Key, XPadder, (both "bullet proof") or assign the joy/throttle buttons direct in game GUI?

 

Thanks for good advice, after some work and searching I found a workaround that is good for my machine.  all functions except trigger should be set as below.

[No_85_Gramps]

I've never used the Saitek software, just the drivers, as I set the controls directly in BOS. Glad you found a work-around. Also,  I leave mine plugged in all the time so haven't experienced the un-plugging issue. Time will tell if Saitek produces a Win 10 driver, not holding my breath.

[Ace_Pilto]

Honestly I've spent more time playing with Cortana (She really likes Kraftwerk) and The Witcher 3 than I have on BoS since I installed Windows 10 but BoS runs fine. The only problem I've had launching a game was with CloD, I ended up having to use a 3rd party .exe (CloDer.exe) to run that.

[Sokol1]

 

 

 I ended up having to use a 3rd party .exe (CloDer.exe) to run that

In this case was expected, since Win 10 is based on 8, that require the same fix.

Anyway with that "MOD", the fix is not needed.

 

My only issue - sim related with Win 10 - is the inverted order (relative to Win 7) that he recognize joystick and pedal (this now became joystick1 instead the previous joystick2).

Not big issue, just replace with Notepad "joystick" be "joystick1" in settings files, and after reassign the pedal.

[BeastyBaiter]

Installed Win10 from Win8.1 over the weekend, so far everything is fine. Games tested so far: BoS, RoF, DCS, TW:Rome II, WT, ED and Goat Simulator. My X-55, CH pedals and TIR have worked flawlessly so far. I also didn't have any controller positions switch in any games. My only concern with Win10 is the forced updates. I'm not concerned about stability issues, instead what worries me is it deciding to download a 300MB patch while I'm in the middle of a dogfight in MP. One would hope it's smart enough to know you are using the internet and wait for an idle network to do that kind of thing, but I haven't seen that kind of thing mentioned anywhere.

[Sokol1]

Active this during gaming?

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

[skline00]

_{Works well on both rigs below.}

Edited August 12, 2015 by skline00

[TWC_Ace]

Installed Win10 from Win8.1 over the weekend, so far everything is fine. Games tested so far: BoS, RoF, DCS, TW:Rome II, WT, ED and Goat Simulator. My X-55, CH pedals and TIR have worked flawlessly so far. I also didn't have any controller positions switch in any games. My only concern with Win10 is the forced updates. I'm not concerned about stability issues, instead what worries me is it deciding to download a 300MB patch while I'm in the middle of a dogfight in MP. One would hope it's smart enough to know you are using the internet and wait for an idle network to do that kind of thing, but I haven't seen that kind of thing mentioned anywhere.

AFAIK you can turn off automatic updates...

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

Having a bit of trouble with Admin rights. Seems I no longer have them and can not figure out HOW to get them back. The Microsoft sight seems in a quandry over this. Several suggestions which did not work (for me) and some who think it is tied to a One Drive problem. I noticed it when I tried to save a picture and was told I didn't have the rights to do that. Of course this has nothing to do with game play but still.

 

Chief

[FlyingH]

I get "failed to update" from the launcher, "No internet connection" from the game! I´M fucked! I tested the copatability with the windows tester and it says the program is incompatible! (the launcher and the game!) Going nuts!!

Edited August 13, 2015 by FlyingH

[Oubaas]

Before you install Windows 10 you might want to read this:

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/407894,microsoft-can-disable-your-pirated-games-and-illegal-hardware.aspx?

So, what does it take to have your game identified by Windows 10 as bad?

How will this affect the Battle of Britain II: Wings of Victory crowd?  Would IL2 Sturmovik 1946 modded with the Community Universal Patch do it?  What about IL2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover with the Team Fusion patch?  Anything in Rise of Flight these days that might set it off?

But even more worrisome, what exactly is "unauthorized hardware"?  If you modded your joystick, will it detect that it has been modded?  What about that new set of expensive, custom rudder pedals from the guy working out of his garage?  Did he pay Microsoft to get his gear "certified"?  Did adding that VKB Fat Black Mamba base destroy your ability to use your Warthog HOTAS?  Did overclocking your graphics card make it bad in the eyes of Redmond?

Considering that major automakers such as GM now contend that while you own your car they own the software in it which means, in their eyes, that you are not authorized to work on your own car anymore, how will this affect your ability to do what you want with your computer?  Corporate hubris knows no bounds.

This may sound a bit alarmist at first, until you consider that people have had to disable "Secure Boot" in their BIOS and go to Legacy Boot in order to install a new graphics card from a manufacturer who failed to pay the necessary fee to Microsoft to have their hardware placed on the authorized list.  And that was before Windows 10 ever came about.

It's very difficult to say what this vague terminology really means.  But if we look at previous attempts to dictate to the end user that have been foisted upon the gaming community by Microsoft, perhaps it will give us a feel for what this might be like.  Anyone up for "Super Games for Windows Live", now featuring the hardware police?

And while it's snooping around your computer looking for bad hardware and software, what else is Windows 10 digging into, examining and reporting to its masters?

When they start giving you "free" stuff, you might want to ask why.

When will they start charging for the fully automatic upgrades that you agreed to in the EULA so that you can continue to use the "services"?  

Section 7b - "Updates to the Services or Software, and Changes to These Terms" - of the Windows 10 EULA states that Microsoft “may automatically check your version of the software and download software update or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services..."

Let's see, they want to "give" you Windows 10 for "free".  But the EULA to which you agree allows them to check your version and automatically download update or configuration changes that prevent you from accessing the Services.  And how do you suppose, once they've disabled your OS, that you can get back to gaming on a functional PC?  Could it be that you'll have to purchase an update to bring your now disabled, obsolete OS up to date?

Hmmm.  And how much might that cost?  How much has a Windows disc cost in the past?  But you only had to buy a disc once.  After that purchase, the updates were free.

But what if they gave you the OS for free, then charged you each time that it needed to be updated?  Over and over again?  And your OS wouldn't work if it was not up to date?  Better read that EULA again.

And if that sounds far-fetched, then please explain to me why you have 30 days to remove Windows 10 after installing, and after that, you can't.  I don't know how far this reaches.  Do they invalidate your previous Windows key if you leave Windows 10 installed longer than 30 days?  If you fdisk and rewrite the master boot record, then try to reinstall your old OS, will you be told that your Windows key is not valid?  Remember the "Genuine Windows" checker they embedded in your OS a long time ago?

Perhaps the 30 day limit is to prevent people from reverting to avoid having their OS disabled until they buy the necessary updates.  If you have installed your "free" copy of Windows 10, you might want to remove it before the 30 days is up, just in case.  You can always reinstall Windows 10 later, when the whole situation becomes clearer.  But do remember, this is a one time only offer.  You'll probably have to pay for Windows 10 next time, should you repent of it now.

By the way, if you're tired of seeing the Windows 10 offer icon, simply uninstall Windows Update KB3035583 through your Control Panel.  You'll have to restart.  Here's how this update was described to you when you installed it.:

"KB3035583 – Update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1"

More honest transparency, eh?  Here's a little more detailed info on the "update"...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583

Both I and my wife have noticed that our PCs are considerably quicker now that we have removed the "free" Windows 10 offer from our system trays.  I don't know what else it was doing besides annoying me, but it was slowing both of our systems down.  I suspect that it may have also been responsible for a mysterious Internet bandwidth leak that we experienced about the time that it showed up.

So if you have not installed Windows 10 yet, make sure it's what you really want.  And if you have installed it, you better be sure you want to keep it before the 30 day period is up, or you might be stuck, with your previous key for your prior version of Windows invalidated.  Anything is possible, and we're not being informed.  But that EULA is worrisome.  Add to that the fact that some people have had trouble with various sims not working, and have also experienced various hardware problems, and that Windows 7 and 8.1 will continue to be officially supported until at least 2020 according to one of the Microsoft execs, and I'm not in a hurry to take advantage of this marvelous "free" offer.

 

Edited August 18, 2015 by Oubaas

[dburne]

By the way, if you're tired of seeing the Windows 10 offer icon, simply uninstall Windows Update KB3035583 through your Control Panel.  You'll have to restart.  Here's how this update was described to you when you installed it.:

 

"KB3035583 – Update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1"

 

 

Thanks for the tip, I have uninstalled that update , was tired of seeing the windows 10 icon in my notification tray.

Not quite ready to be an early adapter of Windows 10 just yet.

[Bando]

Thanks Oubaas. Like dburne I was tired of seeing that pop up every 2 days. I had it downloaded, but some little voice kept saying "wait, there must be some snake in the package".

I will make sure the W10 update gets on a backburner, mostly because my genuine version of W7 works fine.

 

Thanks again.

[slicker55]

Honestly I've spent more time playing with Cortana (She really likes Kraftwerk) and The Witcher 3 than I have on BoS since I installed Windows 10 but BoS runs fine. The only problem I've had launching a game was with CloD, I ended up having to use a 3rd party .exe (CloDer.exe) to run that.

Hope I can help here... have read elsewhere that you will get problems with CLOD on Windows 10 if you're running SweetFX or similar injectors. Remove these and it should run great. (no need to use the 3rd party .exe)

Edited August 22, 2015 by slicker55

[No_85_Gramps]

I'm using Win 10 and I'm happy with it, but, I will say this: If you do not make regular back-ups, don't like tinkering with software installs, object to MS' data gathering then DO NOT update. Wait 9 or 10 months and see how things are at that point. I kind of enjoyed tinkering with the Win 10 TP's, but I did so on a separate hard drive, I did not actually update to 10 until I was comfortable with it (plus having a cloned copy of my 8.1 install). From a performance perspective with BOS I have not seen any improved performance, so if you are happy with 7, 8, or whatever, stay with it, unless you are prepared to be frustrated! It was easy for me to be frustrated knowing that I still had a cloned drive that contained my 8.1 install.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Gramps

[Ace_Pilto]

Hope I can help here... have read elsewhere that you will get problems with CLOD on Windows 10 if you're running SweetFX or similar injectors. Remove these and it should run great. (no need to use the 3rd party .exe)

 

 

Heh, you will get problems with CloD no matter what you run it on. The only PC it runs on without issues is a closely guarded secret developer's PC that is hidden in a fortified basement in Russia where it is guarded by the FSB and Spetznatz. I've already fixed my issue by using the CloDer.exe, (Which I recommend using anyway if you're on Windows 8 or above) without it I couldn't run the game at all but now I have it running with reShade. (It runs stable with a ton of planes (50+) on max settings, FPS are a little low though so I'll have to scale back some things)

 

To be honest I haven't even launched CloD to play it once since installing Windows 10, I only launch it when I'm in the mood to spend half a day Googling solutions to whatever strange and unusual CtD or Network issues it decides to throw at me.

Edited August 23, 2015 by JimmyBlonde

[slicker55]

 

Everything is running fine - including Track IR, X-55, BoS ..

 

You're dead lucky not to have had any problems with your X-55.

So many people have found the main axis's seem OK but the stick and/or throttle switches don't work after upgrading to Windows 10. It's so wide spread, there's even an on-line petition calling for Saitek to release new drivers and HUD software to fix the issues. 

[slicker55]

It was easy for me to be frustrated knowing that I still had a cloned drive that contained my 8.1 install.

Since getting into flight sims (+2yrs), I reckon I've spent more time setting things up, researching issues and fixing problems than doing any actual flying (LOL) but all this seems to come with the territory. 

 

I also thought about cloning my Windows 7 drive to a second SSD as a fallback before upgrading to Windows 10 but in the end didn't because I read somewhere that the OS on the cloned drive would not work once Windows 10 had been activated.

 

Damn, I can't find the actual post now but, if memory serves me right, it said the only way to get back to the previous OS was via the same drive during the 'one month' period.

 

It will be very interesting to see if your cloned drive does work (if ever you decide to go back to 8.1)