strange blinking reflections in FW 190 canopy

[SR-F_Winger]

Since one or 2 patches ive got that strange blinking stripes that look like some sort of reflection bug in the canopyglass of the FW190.

Does anyone else have this? Ist there maybe a fix or is it a known issue?

 

Havent done a screen yet but can do if noone knows what i am talking about.

 

[Willy__]

First thing that comes to mind is the sun reflections... can you post a screen to be sure ?

[Wulf]

Can't say I've noticed anything but then I tend to focus more on the bs roll-rate and, if I'm not mistaken, somewhat reduced high speed handling since the last patch.  A screen would be useful.

[Remontti]

I have some odd looking reflections in FW190s front glass. I wouldn't describe it blinking so we might talk two different things here. I have noticed that they appear on Velike Luki map after take-off. First time I saw it, I thought that there was smoke coming into canopy behind the sight. That's how it looked, but I haven't paid attention to it lately. I thought that's just the way reflections are drawn at certain situations.

[III/JG2Gustav05]

Just my feeling, I think Fw190 canopy glass has a white wash effect comparing to Bf109. it makes you difficult to spot the enemy far from you. even bf109 's canopy has more slats and struts I still think in it I have a better chance to spot enemy plane far away.

[Dakpilot]

Can't say I've noticed anything but then I tend to focus more on the bs roll-rate and, if I'm not mistaken, somewhat reduced high speed handling since the last patch.  A screen would be useful.

 

 

Maybe better to stay on topic than try to de-rail this into yet another FW190 FM is 'porked thread'

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[SR-F_Winger]

Ill be making a video today. Its definately not the "usual sunreflection". Even if its annoying, this one is kinda realistic so i can live with that. But my problem is diffrent. Youll see in the video.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Just my feeling, I think Fw190 canopy glass has a white wash effect comparing to Bf109. it makes you difficult to spot the enemy far from you. even bf109 's canopy has more slats and struts I still think in it I have a better chance to spot enemy plane far away.

 

That's an interesting point, I also noticed it's much harder to spot aircraft above the horizon but I haven't really flown the 109 since the last patch and have only flown the 190. Might be worth doing some testing but I've had several times where aircraft have pretty much vanished in front of me while flying the 190. I put it down to the new lighting effects they'd introduced.

[Potenz]

Can't say I've noticed anything but then I tend to focus more on the bs roll-rate and, if I'm not mistaken, somewhat reduced high speed handling since the last patch.  A screen would be useful.

seriously mate, if think this game is that bad, please leave the forum or stop trolling every thread

[Willy__]

Just my feeling, I think Fw190 canopy glass has a white wash effect comparing to Bf109. it makes you difficult to spot the enemy far from you. even bf109 's canopy has more slats and struts I still think in it I have a better chance to spot enemy plane far away.

 

Really ? For me its the opposite, all the struts and bars and whatnot make spotting much more difficult since I have to move my head back and forth to clear the view from the middle strut. while in the FW it has some awesome view, even when looking back. The only thing that annoys me is the "little scratches" on the cannopy, but that is something you get used to after flying for a while. 

Edited July 29, 2015 by istruba

[Potenz]

Really ? For me its the opposite, all the struts and bars and whatnot make spotting much more difficult since I have to move my head back and forth to clear the view from the middle strut. while in the FW it has some awesome view, even when looking back. The only thing that annoys me is the "little scratches" on the cannopy, but that is something you get used to after flying for a while. 

this is my case too, the peripheral view in the 190 cockpit ist superb, the framing in the 109 some times creates many blind spots when fast spoting

[III/JG2Gustav05]

this is my case too, the peripheral view in the 190 cockpit ist superb, the framing in the 109 some times creates many blind spots when fast spoting

 

 

For me, the blind points can be mitigated by changing head position, But I can do nothing for the white wash effect of 190's canopy glass. in contrast 109's canopy glass is crystal clear.

Edited July 29, 2015 by III/JG2Gustav05

[LukeFF]

 

For me, the blind points can be mitigated by changing head position, But I can do nothing for the white wash effect of 190's canopy glass. in contrast 109's canopy glass is crystal clear.

 

 

Whitewash? Huh? Do you really know what that means?

[III/JG2Gustav05]

Whitewash? Huh? Do you really know what that means?

Maybe not very precisely, But I just feel that the whole 190 canopy glass is covered by a very very thin white paint when looking outside. sure it is not very noticeable for everyone. but my feeling tells me it is different to 109.

Edited July 29, 2015 by III/JG2Gustav05

[Potenz]

I have nothing like what you describe while flying the 190, or maybe you mean the sun reflection on the canopy at some angles???

[SCG_Tzigy]

I have some odd looking reflections in FW190s front glass. I wouldn't describe it blinking so we might talk two different things here. I have noticed that they appear on Velike Luki map after take-off. First time I saw it, I thought that there was smoke coming into canopy behind the sight. That's how it looked, but I haven't paid attention to it lately. I thought that's just the way reflections are drawn at certain situations.

I have the "smoke", also. At first i thought it was the clouds but it almost gives u a feeling it is moving inside of the front windshield glass....

[LLv24_Zami]

I have nothing like what you describe while flying the 190, or maybe you mean the sun reflection on the canopy at some angles???

+1

 

Just tested, nothing strange no matter how I twist FW-190 around.

[ram0506]

It`s a reflection of clouds due to the angle of the front glass I would say. Other aircraft don`t have such an inclined wind shield and therefore this effect is only seen in the Fw. Try it by flying below clouds.

[LLv24_Zami]

It`s a reflection of clouds due to the angle of the front glass I would say. Other aircraft don`t have such an inclined wind shield and therefore this effect is only seen in the Fw. Try it by flying below clouds.

 

Tried it in QMB with full cloud coverage but nothing. Maybe I am just missing something or it doesn`t effect everyone. But that is not important. OP said he`s making a video, so when he does we know what to look for

Edited July 30, 2015 by Zami

[Feathered_IV]

I have the "smoke", also. At first i thought it was the clouds but it almost gives u a feeling it is moving inside of the front windshield glass....

Not that it would be a deliberate feature, but I recall reading that 190 pilots were required to wear a mask at all times due to the exhaust gasses that flowed into the cockpit.

[Potenz]

The canopy reflecting exteriors is a feature, but it's nothing wrong or unrealistic about it, actually it's great features that's also in RoF planes

[III/JG2Gustav05]

I have nothing like what you describe while flying the 190, or maybe you mean the sun reflection on the canopy at some angles???

No, not sun reflection. it has nothing to do with angle. it always be there. Just feel that the 190's canopy glass's transparency is not as good as 109's. but it is not quite noticeable.

[ram0506]

Tried it in QMB with full cloud coverage but nothing. Maybe I am just missing something or it doesn`t effect everyone. But that is not important. OP said he`s making a video, so when he does we know what to look for

Yes, strange. I can`t witness it every time I´m under clouds either. Maybe it has something to do with the position of the sun and how the clouds are spotlighted by the sun. Sometimes I can see also darker lines passing the windscreen, so that it seems to be some reflection from the ground (even if that shouldn`t be possible, I guess).

But maybe I`m just getting mad and next time when paying attention to that I will see pink elephants passing the wind shield.

[LLv24_Zami]

Maybe it has something to do with the position of the sun and how the clouds are spotlighted by the sun.

 

I quess you are right on that, probably the reason it is not visible to all the time.

 

 

But maybe I`m just getting mad and next time when paying attention to that I will see pink elephants passing the wind shield.

 

I know what you mean! I shouldn`t read this thread, now I`m paying too much attention looking for strange reflections on the windscreen

[Potenz]

well yeah that effect in the windscreen is the reflection of the Clouds, and only happens flying

under the clouds, IMHO is a great feature that also has RoF, real life glass also reflects at certain

angles and light conditions. 

 

I think like in my case i noticed that while ago, but i soon realized that it was an effect as i almost

never fight at low alt, so i'm always cruising at 6k.

 

Conclusion: isn't a bug with the 190, it's just a nice little feature.

[coconut]

I once noticed on the V-luki map that the ground forest pattern reflects itself against the canopy glass of some German fighters. I don't remember which one, might have been in the 190.

That should not happen, since the body of the aircraft should be blocking the reflection. I'll check later if that's the case, and if so file a bug report.

[SR-F_Winger]

God dammit. I keep forgetting to convert the vid. Today:)

[FuriousMeow]

These? If yes, that's the bend in the canopy glass. Not sure if a rendering error, pretty sure they weren't present before.

 

 

Not very evident in the change from bmp to jpg. I can't add the zip up here of the bmps, too big, and it's also missing the amazing MSPaint artwork so it can't be sold on the streets for millions of something. If you'd like to subject yourself to the tiny pains of tiny download speeds of tiny upload, it's 22MB: So, so tiny

Edited August 6, 2015 by FuriousMeow

[SR-F_Winger]

These? If yes, that's the bend in the canopy glass. Not sure if a rendering error, pretty sure they weren't present before.

 

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Not very evident in the change from bmp to jpg. I can't add the zip up here of the bmps, too big, and it's also missing the amazing MSPaint artwork so it can't be sold on the streets for millions of something. If you'd like to subject yourself to the tiny pains of tiny download speeds of tiny upload, it's 22MB: So, so tiny

darn i forgot the vid again. Ill write myself a remindermail right now.

Meanwhile i made a quick photochop to give an impression. Its more like that, blinking and wandering all over the canopy. Mostly at the front and sometimes the back, Seems to be somwhat lightingdependant.

[Dr_Molenbeek]

I once noticed on the V-luki map that the ground forest pattern reflects itself against the canopy glass of some German fighters. I don't remember which one, might have been in the 190.

That should not happen, since the body of the aircraft should be blocking the reflection. I'll check later if that's the case, and if so file a bug report.

 

Noticed this too, that was on the 190.

 

Was a time there were the same problem with 190s in War Thunder, ground reflections on the front glass.

[SR-F_Winger]

Noticed this too, that was on the 190.

 

Was a time there were the same problem with 190s in War Thunder, ground reflections on the front glass.

Copy, can confirm that too. Neets a fix as well.

[SR-F_Winger]

sooo. i finally managed to convert the vid. in this vid the stripes are pretty small. dependand on where i fly they can be much bigger.

Together with the reflections of the trees THROUGH the frikkin canopy this is so annoying.

 

https://youtu.be/_0TPuiPz4YU

 

They move all over the canpopy front to back.

Edited August 6, 2015 by JG4_Winger

[FuriousMeow]

Don't have that. Are your drivers up to date? Try re-running DXsetup, maybe something got corrupted there.

 

I noticed you were online when this happened. Does it happen in QMB as well?

Edited August 7, 2015 by FuriousMeow

[SR-F_Winger]

Everything totally up to date.

Here is another vid with higher resolution.

https://youtu.be/3pmTy-TLzJs

 

EDIT: Frikken utube dumbs down videoquality. cant do anythoing about the artifacts.

Edited August 9, 2015 by JG4_Winger

[=LD=Strat]

When I glance back I sometimes mistake those for tracer smoke and freak out!

[SR-F_Winger]

When I glance back I sometimes mistake those for tracer smoke and freak out!

So i am not the only one. So juist another [Edited] up bug that will be ignored for the next decade.

 

Ground mirroring in frontglass

Blinking BS stripes

Missing performanceboost over 2500m

A Bar thats IRL practically not visible but still is being modeled visible, effectively reducing the visibility of the airplane for NO valid reason!

Please add flaw here

Please add flaw here

Edited August 10, 2015 by Bearcat

[Dakpilot]

Wow, so much anger Lol, perhaps it is just your 'style ' of posting or a language thing, but it really seems you need to take a chill pill

 

The drama of these posts takes away from any real info that may be contained

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[SR-F_Winger]

FYI: I just noticed i also have those blinking reflections in the Macci.

I guess ill try and reinstall the game and see if the problem vanishes.

[Guest deleted@50488]

Have you got SSAO enabled ?  If yes, then try disabling it.

[SR-F_Winger]

Have you got SSAO enabled ?  If yes, then try disabling it.

Ill try when i get home. Thanks for the hint.