Is there any chance for a flyable Ju-52 after BOM is completed?

[Juri_JS]

In Il-2 1946 there were some community funded projects like the Pe-8 and the He-177, that were done by professional modellers. If you guys desperately want a flyable Ju-52, talk to the devs if they agree, find a talented and trustworthy modeller and collect the necessary money.

 

To get an idea how such a project could be organized, take a look here:

https://sites.google.com/site/he177a3r2greif/

Edited July 25, 2015 by Juri_JS

[WIS-Redcoat]

I would pay for this

[Rjel]

Honestly, if a Ju52 project could be funded with a kickstarter program, it could open the door for a lot of projects to add to this franchise. But I imagine the monies needed would have to be huge. If development resources are limited currently by the size of the team, that would mean to complete a project of this size would mean outsourcing or hiring more individuals to create added content. I would think the funds needed could add up to the several tens of thousands of dollars if not more. Is there really that much interest in this from the community?

Edited July 25, 2015 by Rjel

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Honestly, if a Ju52 project could be funded with a kickstarter program, it could open the door for a lot of projects to add to this franchise. But I imagine the monies needed would have to be huge. If development resources are limited currently by the size of the team, that would mean to complete a project of this size would mean outsourcing or hiring more individuals to create added content. I would think the funds needed could add up to the several tens of thousands of dollars if not more. Is there really that much interest in this from the community?

 

It's not just the money though it's the fact that people in 777 will have to work on the cockpit and FM etc instead of something else.

 

The question you should ask is how many people want the Ju52 over some of the other planes we could have. Personally I couldn't care less and would rather see some more fighters and bombers but say this question came up a few months ago and you had the choice for the Ju52 or the P40 what would people chose?

[Matt]

The Ju 52 was high on my list, but the AI-only variant we have now is fine with me. Of course it could be fun to fly it (even though in SP, with the kamikaze AI, i would surely be more frustrating than fun), but the same can be said for dozens of other planes.

 

As of right now, i would rather see a more multi-purpose plane like the Li-2 or Fw 200 instead.

[Neil]

The Ju 52 was high on my list, but the AI-only variant we have now is fine with me. Of course it could be fun to fly it (even though in SP, with the kamikaze AI, i would surely be more frustrating than fun), but the same can be said for dozens of other planes.

 

As of right now, i would rather see a more multi-purpose plane like the Li-2 or Fw 200 instead.

Yes, a li2 would be nice as well (as well a PO2), but we have to begin with something, the ju52 is a good start as there is alrealdy a 3d model, and it had a huge role on the eastern front and into the battle of stalingrad

 

The fact is that it is very scarce that a warbird combat simulation has a flyable transport plane. Sadly, the good old IL2 had not that (except with mod, but the quality was not present  : this ju52 go go as fast as 400 kmph and turn like a Spitfire)

So we are like pioneer so I think it is a good idea to start a kickstarter to show our motivation to the dev team, to show that the ju52 really matters for us.

Edited July 25, 2015 by Neil

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I'd fly it a total of six or eight times. I'd buy it to support you guys but I wouldn't expect it from the devs until we are pretty deep into the development of the while series. Outside of a few diehards I just don't see it justifying the design cycles to make it.

[Neil]

I'd buy it to support you guys 

Thank you for your support 

[Sim]

+1, would buy it and support the devs if it was released as flyable.

In my opinion, a Ju 52 would open new mission type possibilities for BoS and would attract new kinds of players (those not particularly interested in combat from FSX/X-Plane crowd for example). Seeing how much work already went into Ju 52 external model, damage and FM systems - it seems logical step to make it flyable at some point.

[KodiakJac]

+1

 

I'd buy it also.  And for this reason: "a Ju 52 would open new mission type possibilities for BoS and would attract new kinds of players (those not particularly interested in combat from FSX/X-Plane crowd for example)."

 

Somehow, BoS needs to lose the reputation of being an arcade game.  Can you say "strategery!"

[Feathered_IV]

That's the thing. Bos is currently tailored to appeal only to the narrowest interest group. It's aspirations towards gameplay are to "somehow" capture the imagination of the most disinterested potential customers. It does not take into account the wellspring of existing flight sim enthusiasts or the other styles of play that attract them and has seen them having to stay with software which is outdated and up to ten years or more old.

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

It's not just the money though it's the fact that people in 777 will have to work on the cockpit and FM etc instead of something else.

 

The question you should ask is how many people want the Ju52 over some of the other planes we could have. Personally I couldn't care less and would rather see some more fighters and bombers but say this question came up a few months ago and you had the choice for the Ju52 or the P40 what would people chose?

Ju-52 FM already exist

[Neil]

+1, would buy it and support the devs if it was released as flyable.

In my opinion, a Ju 52 would open new mission type possibilities for BoS and would attract new kinds of players (those not particularly interested in combat from FSX/X-Plane crowd for example). Seeing how much work already went into Ju 52 external model, damage and FM systems - it seems logical step to make it flyable at some point.

I agree, some people like FSX but they are so bored because there is no action so they do not play it much.

Thus, Il2 with plane like ju52 , Li2 and Po2 for instance will attract new players... and they will be delighted by the realism , the fun , the action, and the real feeling to fly in this simulation.

 

 

That's the thing. Bos is currently tailored to appeal only to the narrowest interest group. It's aspirations towards gameplay are to "somehow" capture the imagination of the most disinterested potential customers. It does not take into account the wellspring of existing flight sim enthusiasts or the other styles of play that attract them and has seen them having to stay with software which is outdated and up to ten years or more old.

 

I agree with you and that is a very good point

 

Ju-52 FM already exist

 

The flight model is made for AI thus, I wonder if it is a simplified one, I mean maybe the FM has to be more complex for a flyable plane.

Anyone knows about that?

[Reflected]

 

 

The flight model is made for AI thus, I wonder if it is a simplified one, I mean maybe the FM has to be more complex for a flyable plane. Anyone knows about that?

 

 

The beauty of RoF and BoS is that the AI uses the same FM as you. This way we don't have crazy F-16 behaviour like the one that ruined CloD Single Player for me.

[216th_Jordan]

A flyable Ju52 would also open up possibilities for a Spain Map.

 

BTW: I would not really be flying it because i dislike flying for LW but i would surely support it financially.

Edited July 27, 2015 by Jordan

[I./JG1_Baron]

I would definitely bought Ju-52 - as well as support for developers and because it is a legend and I would love to be with this machine flew. In any case, I'm sure that for some time the Ju-52 will flyable - as the Bréguet in RoF (for example). Maybe it will take several years, but in the end will be "our".    Howgh.

Edited July 27, 2015 by II./JG1_Baron

[6./ZG26_McKvack]

@Neil: I asked about that. AI Ju-52 got a full FM same as the flyable planes

[Neil]

 

 

The beauty of RoF and BoS is that the AI uses the same FM as you. This way we don't have crazy F-16 behaviour like the one that ruined CloD Single Player for me.

 

That is good! I did not know that! thank you!

 

A flyable Ju52 would also open up possibilities for a Spain Map.

 

BTW: I would not really be flying it because i dislike flying for LW but i would surely support it financially.

Maybe the flyable ju52 would be an open door for the flyable Li2! thank you for your financial support

 

I would definitely bought Ju-52 - as well as support for developers and because it is a legend and I would love to be with this machine flew. In any case, I'm sure that for some time the Ju-52 will flyable - as the Bréguet in RoF (for example). Maybe it will take several years, but in the end will be "our".    Howgh.

 

Thank you for your support, well, can you tell me why the Bréguet in RoF is special, I mean , did the player really wanted it?

 

@Neil: I asked about that. AI Ju-52 got a full FM same as the flyable planes

Thank you!