SR-F_Winger Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 Or is there? I only see the one with icons by DED. Being primarily germany pilot i am sort of dependand on supriseattacks. Wich are practically no possible with thos pesky icons.
Finkeren Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 I've wanted an expert server that runs only Lapino for a long time. Expert fliers need som quick N' dirty action too.
SR-F_Winger Posted July 5, 2015 Author Posted July 5, 2015 I've wanted an expert server that runs only Lapino for a long time. Expert fliers need som quick N' dirty action too. The same mapset as on the DED normal official would be OK for me.
[CPT]milopugdog Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 I've only played the Stalingrad map at this point, so that would be nice. I'd like to see some night combat too.
coconut Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 The 10km radar radius around airfields can be a bit problematic, more so than on larger maps at least. I think lapino and novosokolniky are a bit too small. Velikie-Luki, on the other hand, is about right. The map size does not matter that much, really. What is important is how spread out objectives are. If the action is focused on one or two points, fighters will meet. This kind of setting can be harsh on bombers and ground-pounders, but without them there is little point in having fighters. Problem should be easily solved with AIs flying these bombers. But that's just my thoughts, Jupps has made a couple missions that take place night-time with AI bombers on small maps, I tested them shortly and had lots of fun (despite my negative opinion of small maps), and similar reports from others confirm the missions are fun. Exactly what people are asking for here, all that's needed is for some server to include these maps in their rotation. There are quite a few servers running 24/7 that are empty every time I check, maybe they should consider trying running new missions... Seeing Syndicate and LD Heavy-metal up all day round with 0 players is painful, I remember these servers being popular a few months ago. 1
6./ZG26_Emil Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 How many people would fly it? Why not make your own and get a few mates to fight with? These small maps are tiny. Chees
Skoop Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 The 10km radar radius around airfields can be a bit problematic, more so than on larger maps at least. I think lapino and novosokolniky are a bit too small. Velikie-Luki, on the other hand, is about right. The map size does not matter that much, really. What is important is how spread out objectives are. If the action is focused on one or two points, fighters will meet. This kind of setting can be harsh on bombers and ground-pounders, but without them there is little point in having fighters. Problem should be easily solved with AIs flying these bombers. But that's just my thoughts, Jupps has made a couple missions that take place night-time with AI bombers on small maps, I tested them shortly and had lots of fun (despite my negative opinion of small maps), and similar reports from others confirm the missions are fun. Exactly what people are asking for here, all that's needed is for some server to include these maps in their rotation. There are quite a few servers running 24/7 that are empty every time I check, maybe they should consider trying running new missions... Seeing Syndicate and LD Heavy-metal up all day round with 0 players is painful, I remember these servers being popular a few months ago. Your right coconut, those 24/7 servers are dead for 95% of the time because the missions are made for when the server has max players. I'd like to see SYN, LD, and TWB run yours and Jupp's missions has a default to make use of the dead time and support smaller 10 to 12 players with AI. It's kind of a waist of three perfectly good servers with no one on them. The demand is there for smaller missions with AI to increase the action.
Wulf Posted July 5, 2015 Posted July 5, 2015 I've wanted an expert server that runs only Lapino for a long time. Expert fliers need som quick N' dirty action too. Yes, agreed. Lapino is a great compact little fighting map. A non-stop expert version would be fantastic.
Y-29.Silky Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Jupps is the closest thing we have at the moment. I miss the expert maps in beta...
PatrickShiva Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Or is there? I only see the one with icons by DED. Being primarily germany pilot i am sort of dependand on supriseattacks. Wich are practically no possible with thos pesky icons. I've always wanted a DED Expert server. It would enable you to have quick action AND do tactical flying AND practice spotting. Aircraft's strenghts (especially of LW aircraft) can only be used without labels. +1
coconut Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 I'll be running Jupp's missions on my laptop during evenings (GMT) this week. Look for "Jupps missions hosted by coconut" in the server list.
coconut Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) By the way, a common problem when I run the server is that there are people who can't see any other plane or vehicle (happened to someone tonight). I don't know what's the problem. Happens often, but not always. Might be my router. Edited July 6, 2015 by coconut
SharpeXB Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Yes BoS desperately needs this. Too many or all of the Expert servers continually run these large missions that are out of touch with the small numbers that are online 95% of the time. Too many airfields and too many objectives are spread out all over the large map for the 8-12 players that are on at any time other than a weekend mid day.
Y-29.Silky Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 The 10km radar radius around airfields can be a bit problematic, Even with the long distance missions, people are still going straight to the enemy airfield anyways. 1
[TWB]dillon_biz Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) We're changing our server to Lapino. AbortedMan's PC is toast so we don't have anyone who is competent with the mission builder (yet) to make smaller/instant action mission sets. Therefor in hopes that the US TZ livens up a bit with BoM over the horizon we thought we'd change over to one of the more familiar maps that can appease everyone's appetite for quick and dirty action. Edited July 6, 2015 by [TWB]dillon_biz
beepee Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) The Shooting Stars Expert server has an that exact kind of in-close dogfight map. It is hosted in Japan. Maybe find out who the mission builder/host is and ask for the mission to host? Edited July 7, 2015 by beepee
Finkeren Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I like the Shooting Stars servers, but these days they're usually completely empty
-DED-ASF Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) The same mapset as on the DED normal official would be OK for me. We launch DED FreshMeat Expert Server (expert preset with same maps as Normal ) Edited July 7, 2015 by -DED-ASF
SharpeXB Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 We launch DED FreshMeat Expert Server (expert preset with same maps as Normal )Should Expert be "fresh" meat or "well done"?
coconut Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Just played on DED freshmeat expert. It was loads of fun! Only issue is the radar. You won't take anyone by surprise over the objective, as it's within range of airfields. It saved me at least once: I checked the map, saw a red plane behind me, started doing barrel rolls without even knowing the altitude of the enemy, and survived a potential attack that should have been my end.
SharpeXB Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 It would be nice to replace the game like radar with some actual radio traffic. But I'm sure that's what it's trying to simulate. You couldn't expect to bounce an enemy within view of their own airfield without being spotted.
Y-29.Silky Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 It saved me at least once: I checked the map, saw a red plane behind me, started doing barrel rolls without even knowing the altitude of the enemy, and survived a potential attack that should have been my end. This is my ultimate pet peeve for this game. It seriously needs to go. Especially when people abuse it and just fly around enemy airfields the whole time ignoring the objectives, it happens all the time.
SR-F_Winger Posted July 9, 2015 Author Posted July 9, 2015 We launch DED FreshMeat Expert Server (expert preset with same maps as Normal ) Thanks! I was there yesterday. Great fun! Thanks for hosting! You got a place where one could donate?
SR-F_Winger Posted July 9, 2015 Author Posted July 9, 2015 Just played on DED freshmeat expert. It was loads of fun! Only issue is the radar. You won't take anyone by surprise over the objective, as it's within range of airfields. It saved me at least once: I checked the map, saw a red plane behind me, started doing barrel rolls without even knowing the altitude of the enemy, and survived a potential attack that should have been my end. Agreed. However its 1000 times better than the radar triangles in normal mode. Id be glad if it could be reduced in diameter.
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