=69.GIAP=YSTREB Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) i wanna lol. the poll in founders section on 109 gift skin, majority of founders are turning to a very common skin or say historical one. As ironic as it is, the poll title is like .. for unique skin poll. I consider unique is like Red Barron's red painted kit or something that atypical,breakingtherule, stands out from the rest or majority. . Anyways, gotta stick with what majority want. but just my 2cents. Glad my interest is more into VVS side Edited October 19, 2013 by =69.GIAP=Yastreb 5
Cybermat47 Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Why are you posting a new thread, and not just replying in the poll thread? i wanna lol. Right answer. I voted for No. 2, because, as a person who plays mostly career mode, I want a skin that fits in. Also, I was really dissapointed at the choices. 4 racing skins and 1 historical skin. I saw quite a few good semi-historical skins, especially one from SPEKTRE. Why couldn't they be in the poll? Edited October 19, 2013 by Cybermat47
I/JG27_Rollo Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) I voted for No. 2, because, as a person who plays mostly career mode, I want a skin that fits in. Well it's not like that will be the only skin that we will ever get for the 109. The second one looks nice but it's far from being anything special. The founder's skin should be (or should have been) something to show off with, something that says "Look at me - I'm a founder!". Good luck doing that with a bog-standard winter skin. Edited October 19, 2013 by I/JG27_Rollo 3
II./JG27_Rich Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Russian fighters could get pretty flashy looking in stock camouflage. German fighters look best when they're all dirty with black exhaust down the side.
=69.GIAP=YSTREB Posted October 19, 2013 Author Posted October 19, 2013 Good luck doing that with a bog-standard winter skin. u understood me why I loled Why are you posting a new thread, and not just replying in the poll thread? just wanted nonfounders might interested lol
Revvin Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 German fighters look best when they're all dirty with black exhaust down the side. I'm sure you meant "all dirty with black engine oil gushing down the side with the wings full of bullet holes" So far as skins go, they don't really hold much value for me as an exclusive, they would be cloned by the talented skin makers out there anyway or what stops a mate passing the skin on to a non founder mate? 2
DB605 Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Agreed with Yastreb, where i'm generally fan of only historical skins, there will be sh*tloads of them available later. Thats why i wanted all-metal skin just for fun, i would only use it off-line when i want to fly some aerobatics or sight seeing.
Cybermat47 Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Well it's not like that will be the only skin that we will ever get for the 109. The second one looks nice but it's far from being anything special. The founder's skin should be (or should have been) something to show off with, something that says "Look at me - I'm a founder!". Good luck doing that with a bog-standard winter skin. Yeah, but you see, I think that my money is wasted if I pay for something, then don't use it. Probably the aspergers speaking I don't even get why those specific skins were chosen. There were way better semi-historical skins out there.
I/JG27_Rollo Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 ...they would be cloned by the talented skin makers out there anyway or what stops a mate passing the skin on to a non founder mate? As far as I know the RoF skin model, every skin (for non-mod play) has to be approved by 777 and then can be downloaded as part of a skin pack. I guess clones of founders skins would not be approved. But I guess the founder's skin could be passed around unless there's some kind of control mechanism in place at the 777 master server...
Cybermat47 Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 As far as I know the RoF skin model, every skin (for non-mod play) has to be approved by 777 and then can be downloaded as part of a skin pack. I guess clones of founders skins would not be approved. But I guess the founder's skin could be passed around unless there's some kind of control mechanism in place at the 777 master server... They wouldn't be able to use it in multiplayer, but they could use it in singleplayer.
6S.Manu Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 i wanna lol. the poll in founders section on 109 gift skin, majority of founders are turning to a very common skin or say historical one. As ironic as it is, the poll title is like .. for unique skin poll. I consider unique is like Red Barron's red painted kit or something that atypical,breakingtherule, stands out from the rest or majority. . Anyways, gotta stick with what majority want. but just my 2cents. Glad my interest is more into VVS side You know them... I agree it should be something "special": not entirely fantasy, but also not a bland historical skin.
Cybermat47 Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) You know them... I agree it should be something "special": not entirely fantasy, but also not a bland historical skin. That's what I wanted... but most of them are too flashy. No.2 one was the one closest to what I wanted. Wait, why am I making such a big deal out of it if I'm not even going to get it?! I pre-ordered AFTER October the 1st, dammit! Edited October 19, 2013 by Cybermat47
BeastyBaiter Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 I wasn't too happy with any of them either, voted #1 and feel like it might look better with "Red Bull" or something stamped on the side to go with the rest of the racer look. But I would have preferred something like #2 with a simple unique insignia on the side that acknowledges it as something specific to the founders. Instead the only historical/semi historical one is a completely generic skin with an equally generic yellow 3 painted on the side.
I/JG27_Rollo Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Agreed with Yastreb, where i'm generally fan of only historical skins, there will be sh*tloads of them available later. Thats why i wanted all-metal skin just for fun, i would only use it off-line when i want to fly some aerobatics or sight seeing. The good thing is: those skins we like but don't get elected can still be made by talented community members...
BeastyBaiter Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 This is true, which is why the only one I am absolutely against is #2. The Bf-109F4 will be like the Albatross D.Va in RoF. It will have hundreds skins for it and option #2 looks like the other 548 historical skins it will have just with a different number on the side. If it had a unique identifier like the LaGG-3 skin has, then it would be different. But as is it's the only totally unacceptable skin for me, not that I'm a huge fan of any of them. As for control, RoF uses official skin packs for multiplayer. My guess is they will add in some form of restriction that only allows certain accounts to use the founders skins while everyone else can only view them. In SP with mods on, you can add your own unapproved skins though, so in SP you could use it or anything else you like.
JtD Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Well, as it is skin 1 is the winner, as skin 2 is no contender in the Russian community, and on average 1 is far in front.
BMA_West Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Once more, when speaking about skins, please do put things in perspective ... What do you expect from it: to see yourself in it or do you want to be seen in it? To see yourself in it, no problem. In order to see others in their chosen skin as far as ROF goes you need to download and install the skin packs. For the moment this means 14 fictional and 14 historical + one official, the later is the only that really changes and has the upgrade id. You install all those, vanity skins and all you get a skin folder bigger than the rest of the game folder. Each time you go to a plane's hangar it takes +time to load that screen the +skins installed .... So most of the time one bothers only with the official and squad's skins - there being a skin manager for opening the packs and making you own selection. Besides those packs however I suppose every upgrade, standing mostly for the introduction of new planes, brings also a few skins on it's own. Also a probable is these unique skins here in so far the ROF system is followed will get installed with the game, not in the packs, in which case you probably will be seen in them what so ever but this is not a given ...
HansHansen Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Are you kidding? No.2 is my all time favorite. I am already picturing myself flying in the 109 with this superior example of uniqueness and creativity, distinguishing me from every other aircraft with historical white and green paint schemes. This will be so exciting and special to fly with. Seriously, I simply can not understand why people seem to miss the word "unique" in the title of the poll, which is ironically a bit self-contradictory, but anyway...
II./JG27_Rich Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Are you kidding? No.2 is my all time favorite. I am already picturing myself flying in the 109 with this superior example of uniqueness and creativity, distinguishing me from every other aircraft with historical white and green paint schemes. This will be so exciting and special to fly with. Seriously, I simply can not understand why people seem to miss the word "unique" in the title of the poll, which is ironically a bit self-contradictory, but anyway... You make an exellent point but it looks like the majority think 109s look sucky in "Unique" skins, Russian fighters on the other hand could get pretty wild looking in stock camouflage and look great. I've only seen unique 109 skin in the Air Racing arena in IL-2...that's it and I've been on the Hyperlobby for 11 years. Edited October 19, 2013 by II./JG27Richie
dkoor Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Most founders skins proposed are on the sucky side... Best way was to get those two bare skins for 109 & lacquered grave, bare metal/(delta) wood. Those would be truly unique and will not suck like some of those category hello Kitty ones. Those just SCREAM foundations, founders, bare essence. People disagreed, so we are bound to have sucky skins. Fantasy unique founder skins? Gimme a break. Imagination 0 Edited October 19, 2013 by dkoor
II./JG27_Rich Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) So have two winners. The war 109 and the unique Edited October 19, 2013 by II./JG27Richie
II./JG27_Rich Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) What I meant to say earlier is the Lagg 3 skin that won looks like it could be a Russian war camouflage skin Edited October 19, 2013 by II./JG27Richie
Feathered_IV Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 None of the proposed skins were particularly good unfortunately. Rather than choose the one I liked the most, I found I had to select the one I disliked the least. 3
Cybermat47 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 None of the proposed skins were particularly good unfortunately. Rather than choose the one I liked the most, I found I had to select the one I disliked the least. Same.
II./JG27_Rich Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) You two should have been surffing for historic skins or been busy painting. Edited October 20, 2013 by II./JG27Richie
Zoring Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I personally don't want any un-historical skins in my IL2, personally however if there had been a choice for a prototype or training school skin then I would have picked it. But if im playing multiplayer it personally sets my teeth on edge to see some fluroscent monstorosity whizzing about.
Cybermat47 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 You two should have been surffing for historic skins or been busy painting. I don't have the skills.
Feathered_IV Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I had a go at the LaGG one. After the skin which received the most votes got changed into something else at the whim of the skinner anyway, it hardly seemed worthwhile to submit anything again.
VeryOldMan Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I kind of agree with OP. A skim that is almost like standard ones, means nothing. No one will even notice the skin. I wanted somethign that when flyign online coudl Identify yourself as a founder.
=RvE=Windmills Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Don't really feel like half the German team flying around in shiny bare metal aircraft all the time.
[JG2]Phen0m Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) German fighters look best when they're all dirty with enemy blood & black exhaust down the side. +1 I fixed it for you Edited October 20, 2013 by [JG2]Phen0m
Allons Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I mostly fly online, that means i will have to use the official skinpack then. With ~15 skins from start available (the 1000 user home-made-home-fly dont interest here) most users would recognise even a plain winter founders skin because there are not much others. Or do i get something wrong here?
ImPeRaToR Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Apart from the 500 user-made winter skins in the historical skin pack that will look pretty much the same, yep.
Sethos Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Yeah it's annoying. The game will have plenty of historical correct skins, why the hell would you want our real option for a unique, badass skin to be just another boring skin? The Russian skin had a very "ceremonious" undertone about it. A plane you'd take up for a joyride or to show off the plane. Let's at least get something similar with the 109. Edited October 21, 2013 by Sethos
IIN8II Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I agree, the second choice is too plain in my opinion. I feel that #1 or #5 are unique but also look like a way that a 109 could have been painted.
LLv34_Flanker Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 S! Can't believe what I am reading here. Community is choosing the skin and you complain about it being whatever. Already complained enough on the "dreadful R7" gift, now on the skin?! Are you guys never satisfied? Holy crap and thought monday could not get any worse. 1
I/JG27_Rollo Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Already complained enough on the "dreadful R7" gift, now on the skin?! Oh stop it already! No one complained about "R7" being a gift. Most users are grateful for 777 making those gifts. However, some sensible people saw an issue with this very specific gameplay mechanic being exclusive for a specific group of players and the only ones who then blew the whole thing out of proportion were the guys who "defended" that exclusivity for whatever reason and constantly tried to discredit said people. Now back to topic. I'm outta here...
=69.GIAP=YSTREB Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 Well, as it is skin 1 is the winner, as skin 2 is no contender in the Russian community, and on average 1 is far in front. good news indeed
JG1_Pragr Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Also, I was really dissapointed at the choices. 4 racing skins and 1 historical skin. I saw quite a few good semi-historical skins, especially one from SPEKTRE. Why couldn't they be in the poll? I agree. While the Lagg-3 poll used 5 skins based on historical more or less and it was hard to decided which one I should choose (in good way, all were great), the 109 poll is about one "historical" skin and 4 War Thunder style. That not fit the aim of BoS. At least in my opinion. Edited October 21, 2013 by II./JG1_Pragr
von_Tom Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 As someone has said, 109s look best in historical or semi-historical paint schemes. That goes for most WWII birds in my opinion. Bare metal looks nice (and I've lovingly patted that bare metal G2 in the flesh) but really if you add markings and so on it detracts from its appearance. The only exception to the rule is the VVS birds where what seem to be fantasy skins look great. Funnily enough though, when you look at pictures of VVS WWII birds you realise that the founder's skin actually looks like a historical skin. Regarding the vote, whichever skin wins the vote is the one that most founders have voted for. It doesn't mean that anyone else's opinion isn't important, just not shared by enough people to swing it one way or the other. And even more pertinent - I reckon that by the game's official release almost all of us will have settled on the one skin that "fits" us and we won'y change it except very rarely. The "unique" skin is a nice idea but apart from firing it up to look at it once I doubt I'll use it unless it's historical-ish and it fits what I want. That's true for me anyway. Hood
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