6./ZG26_5tuka Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 The Bf 109 F-2 has the DB601 N engine rating less horsepower than the F4's DB601E and has a MG151 15mm Motorkanone. Later F-2 were fitted with the larger MG151 20mm cannon though and were upgraded to F-4 standards. The Bf-109 E-7 is an early model obviously with the stubby nose and hard edge wing tips. It's primary role is ground attack as it feautures enhenced bomb racks and better armour protection than other Emil variants. It also utilized the DB601N engine but was inferiour to the F-models. Depending on which E-7 we get it will either be a factory fresh machine or (what usually has been practised) be an older E-1 to E-4 model provisionally upgraded to E-7 standards as it happened during Operation Barbarossa. Oh well Bearcat got me, still leaving this for a quick read. 3
Finkeren Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 I apologise for the noobish question, but, What is the difference with the 109's in BoM to the ones we already have in BoS? I really only fly Russian so haven't a clue about the German side of things. Any reply's are appreciated, Mick. The Bf 109F-2 is outwardly pretty much identical to the F-4 except for the propeller blades which were narrower, but it has a different engine and is armed with the 15mm version of the MG151 autocannon. It is quite a bit slower and has poorer high altitude performance. The E-7 is the last major production variant of the E-series. It is an incremental improvement over the E-4 (the main variant during the later part of the Battle of Britain) It looks quite different from the the later 109 Fs and Gs with the square wings, braced tailplane, wing guns and differently shaped cowling. Performance wise it's overall inferior to the F-2: Lower top speed (despite a similar engine) lower roll rate, less effective control surfaces but only slightly lower climb rate. Hope this gives a general idea. 3
1CGS LukeFF Posted June 12, 2015 1CGS Posted June 12, 2015 The Bf-109 E-7 is an early model obviously with the stubby nose and hard edge wing tips. It's primary role is ground attack as it feautures enhenced bomb racks and better armour protection than other Emil variants. It also utilized the DB601N engine but was inferiour to the F-models. Depending on which E-7 we get it will either be a factory fresh machine or (what usually has been practised) be an older E-1 to E-4 model provisionally upgraded to E-7 standards as it happened during Operation Barbarossa. Don't forget many E-7s were in service with JG77 at the start of Operation Barbarossa, and many later were handed over to the Slovaks and Romanians, where they remained in an air-to-air fighter role. 1
Toxin1 Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 The waterways look very nice. I would even say best in any flightsim to date IMHO.
IIN8II Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Looking awesome! Wil be eagerly waiting for next week!
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Don't forget many E-7s were in service with JG77 at the start of Operation Barbarossa, and many later were handed over to the Slovaks and Romanians, where they remained in an air-to-air fighter role. Yea I only know that many Emils serving with the western front squadroms during the Battle of Britan were brought back to germany to be tranferred to units on the eastern front in 1941-42. I don't know the exact order of events but I'm sure many of those were refitted after the start of Operation Barbarosse serving with fighter units to support the (by that time less common) Bf 109 F-2 and F-4 models. Later on most of them were retired from fighter squadroms, refitted to E-7 ground attack aircraft and served with fighter bomber groups. It will for sure be an interesting aircraft to fly. Better roll rate than the F model but modest armarment and worse performance due to weight increase and aerodynamical layout. Edited June 12, 2015 by Stab/JG26_5tuka
LLv24_Zami Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) E-7 cockpits are also awesome. Great work! Edited June 12, 2015 by Zami
1CGS LukeFF Posted June 12, 2015 1CGS Posted June 12, 2015 Very nice as usual. However I think the P-40 needs stars on it's tail too. I've never seen one with just 4 stars without winter paint, I think they had 6. I've seen a mix of both, such as these without stars on the tail: http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-40/tapani/p-40e/50.htm http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-40/tapani/p-40e/65.htm http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-40/tapani/p-40e/70gromov.htm http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-40/tapani/p-40b-c/ah975.htm http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/lendlease/p-40/tapani/p-40b-c/ah965camo.htm
15[Span.]/JG51Costa Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Nice work! Is it my imagination or do those cockpits look even better than the ones in BoS? And reaaally close to CLoD cockpits!!! Tx developers for your hard work. 2
Yankee_One Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 When i sawee those summer map screens, the first think i thought is it a real picture? Fantastic, its really fantastic. Great job. Like your friday updates
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Don't want to bust the euphoria for this update, just noticed a spelling mistake in the cockpit writing. It definetly should say Kurzbetriebs-anweisung instead of Kurzbetriebs-anweizung. Anweisung = manual/order, Weizen= 2
Mungee Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Amazing stuff! Well done, guys! I was so impressed with those cockpit pic's that I shared one of them on my Facebook page!! ;-)
fergal69 Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Looking better all the time. If this high quality isn't worthy of DD100, what will DD100 bring?
Reflected Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Amazing job! You raised the bar with this cockpit, it seems to be up to the standards of CloD! Even though the BoM is one of my least favorite theaters and planesets, you convinced me to buy it as an investment. Please keep up the hard work you are doing.
Uufflakke Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Don't want to bust the euphoria for this update, just noticed a spelling mistake in the cockpit writing. It definetly should say Kurzbetriebs-anweisung instead of Kurzbetriebs-anweizung. Anweisung = manual/order, Weizen= Good eye for detail. Same spelling error in Clod's Bf-109 E-4 though. Talking about detail: have a close look at both plates and its scratches and chipped off paint. They are exactly the same. Curious to know what the original source might have been. I searched the net but didn't manage to find a decent - at least readable - picture of this metal plate. 1
csThor Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) It's an information for the pilot. It reads "Maschine hat Luftschrauben-Automatik. Kurzbetriebs-anweisung beachten." (Aircraft is equipped with auto-pitch mechanism. Check the abbreviated manual.") Edited June 13, 2015 by csThor 1
AFSnake-eye Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Incredible images ...they do look awesome. But I am a bit confused some people are talking about BOM ..is this for BOS or for BOM or for both ? Thanks ..whatever the sim ..good work guys
Missionbug Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 The P-40 and the mapwork look particularily outstanding, this is proving to be a very long and torturous wait. Wishing you all the very best, Pete.
Feathered_IV Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Good eye for detail. Talking about detail: have a close look at both plates and its scratches and chipped off paint. They are exactly the same. Curious to know what the original source might have been. Well spotted. It looks like the author is the same and reused some of his material.
dan54800 Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Hello, (désolé pour le texte en français). Je possède une photographie montrant la fameuse plaquette indicatrice dont il est fait mention ici. Le texte exact est celui-ci : Maschine hat Luftschrauben- automatik Kurzbetriebs- anweisung beachten Amitiés DAN
J4SCrisZeri Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Is it just me, or the new cockpits are going way deeper in complexity? I remember the timed we missed CLOD insane detail level, me too, but I have to admit BOS gets more gorgeous day by day Thank you team, very good and appreciated job. You are talented.
BlitzPig_EL Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Gents, I'm guessing this cockpit, and probably the entire 3D model were taken directly from the original work done for the sequel for Cliffs of Dover. Remember that Cliffs is still a 1C owned property.
CBAPHOI Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Gents, I'm guessing this cockpit, and probably the entire 3D model were taken directly from the original work done for the sequel for Cliffs of Dover. Remember that Cliffs is still a 1C owned property. Somebody from the devs said on the Russian forum that not entire cockpit but a few parts (not that many, though) were indeed taken from CLOD.
Original_Uwe Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Gents, I'm guessing this cockpit, and probably the entire 3D model were taken directly from the original work done for the sequel for Cliffs of Dover. Remember that Cliffs is still a 1C owned property. My thoughts exactly.
Freycinet Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 You raised the bar with this cockpit Glad you weren't commenting on the FW-190 'pit... ;-) Yup, this Bf-109E 'pit obviously borrowed quite a lot of stuff from the work 1C did with the Bf-109E in Cliffs of Dover. After CoD it has been a bit hard to accept the (small but noticeable) step backwards that BoS 'pits represent. Hopefully this is a sign that they'll reach for CoD quality cockpits in the future. It IS were we spend all the time in the sim after all.
Strider Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 It IS were we spend all the time in the sim after all. +1
DigitalEngine Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Maintenance left a pannel off, right wing, upper side..... lol you know, that would be a cool feature, to be able to take cowlings and panels off.....
Uufflakke Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Ultimate nitpickin' for today. It is 'Reststand-warnlampe' instead of 'Reststand-Warnlampe'. 1
John_Banks Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Because it is a single word "Reststandwarnlampe". But due to a lack of space, they had to use two lines. Btw, These typos are realistic. I remember an old IL2 thread about the HE-163 Salamander. Oleg said, that they used original sources and they had typos too. These guys painting the letters on the panels often used wrong letters. I guess the qualitiy control wasn't that accurate here
[KWN]T-oddball Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Somebody from the devs said on the Russian forum that not entire cockpit but a few parts (not that many, though) were indeed taken from CLOD. 7/20/2012 what river is that behind the 109F?....
ST_ami7b5 Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 7/20/2012 what river is that behind the 109F?.... ... Massechutess?
Uufflakke Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 what river is that behind the 109F?.... Volga. http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/8107-mmo-il-2-sturmovik-bos/
Bussard_x Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 I apologise for the noobish question, but, What is the difference with the 109's in BoM to the ones we already have in BoS? I really only fly Russian so haven't a clue about the German side of things. Any reply's are appreciated, Mick. Mick this might help: 2
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