SR-F_Winger Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 That maybe brings some improvements that make the sim flyable again? Or rather not?
IRRE_Belmont Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I dont think so, You'll not see any updates any soon i guess, they're working on the implementation of other seasons, and also on BoM. I may be wrong, but i wouldn't expect it, then again I MIGHT BE WRONG 1
6./ZG26_Custard Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 make the sim flyable again? yes It has issues but it pretty damn flyable IMO. 1
SR-F_Winger Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 yes It has issues but it pretty damn flyable IMO. I should correct myself. Replace that "flyable" with "enjoyable".
Feathered_IV Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I don't expect an update today. Maybe a picture or something.
3instein Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Information about that good idea they have would be appreciated. Mick.
Bussard_x Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 They are busy to get ready with the BOM early access.
Finkeren Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I say it's 99% certain there'll be no update today. I personally hope for a DD detailing the schedule for BoM early access, but I expect to just get another screenshot tbh.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Not long to go and we'll have something to actually fly but we're an impatient bunch :D
No601_Prangster Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Winger you say the game was enjoyable in the past but not anymore. What things should the devs bring back to make it enjoyable again? 1
SR-F_Winger Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Winger you say the game was enjoyable in the past but not anymore. What things should the devs bring back to make it enjoyable again? It has grown unenjoyable to me since when flying online there are far too few people on the servers. Even with a full load of 43 people you have to fly for ages to find an opponent. Boring! Also the wrong performance of the YAK is what turns me off.
No601_Prangster Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I fly with a squadron and we run our own server so I never have trouble finding opponents to fight. If you want real enjoyment from the game fly cooperative missions made by talented mission builders with a group of good friends. This Sunday we starting a new campaign flying Yaks over Velikiye Luki.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I find it very easy to find enemies and if you are low it's virtually guaranteed.
No601_Swallow Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Winger, get to know the ME (which is another game in itself!) and start churning out missions the way you like them. Put up a server on one of the smaller maps, with objectives to attack/defend, maybe an occassional AI flight of bombers and escorts to tussle with... All the tools are there. There's enough examples/tutorials/advice in the mission makers' forum for basic missions to be very easy to put together. People even share "groups", mission elements of, say, trains or artillary groups or AI flights so that making a basic mission can be like lego - just slot pieces together. And when your mission doesn't work (and the first couple won't), there's a crew of cheerful boffins who'll often download your mission, have a look at it, tell you what you've missed and help you on your way. There's no excuse not to engage with this game, if you want to enjoy flying flightsims. It's all there. And the mission makers' forum isn't full of people complaining all the time. It tends to have people who are being constructive! 1
SYN_Vorlander Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I do hope that we could get 64 players on the server. I hate waiting for the "wings of liberty" server to open a place for me to fly. If I have to wait I rather play something else. and maybe or hopefully fix the YAK's flaps! this could be a great update before BOM 3
6./ZG26_Emil Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I do hope that we could get 64 players on the server. I hate waiting for the "wings of liberty" server to open a place for me to fly. If I have to wait I rather play something else. It seems like a lot of people are doing this and I do understand it because we have done the same but it seems there are a lot of people who are logging on seeing WOL is full and then leaving the game entirely instead of going in to a quieter server. Personally I think there are much better servers out there and if people were prepared to seed another one we'd have two expert to chose from like it was a few weeks back. Granted we're a squad so there's a few of us but this is something I am going to do more of, if we're the first in we'll run a couple of Jabo missions first. Having said that we joined a server with only 4 people in it the other night and ended up shooting down 3 planes :D so the fun is there if people are willing to try something else.
150GCT_Veltro Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I do hope that we could get 64 players on the server. I hate waiting for the "wings of liberty" server to open a place for me to fly. If I have to wait I rather play something else. and maybe or hopefully fix the YAK's flaps! this could be a great update before BOM +1 100% agree.
PeterZvan Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I do hope that we could get 64 players on the server. I hate waiting for the "wings of liberty" server to open a place for me to fly. If I have to wait I rather play something else. and maybe or hopefully fix the YAK's flaps! this could be a great update before BOM + 1
Cybermat47 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 It has grown unenjoyable to me since when flying online there are far too few people on the servers. Even with a full load of 43 people you have to fly for ages to find an opponent. Boring! A patch really wouldn't fix that. I unerstand why you're bored, though. Everyone does.
SR-F_Winger Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 A patch really wouldn't fix that. I unerstand why you're bored, though. Everyone does. If theyd increase playercount to 64 or 75 it would certainly fix that:) Shallow. I dont have enough time to learn that. Too busy in RL. I know forum would be helpful. Its always!
Cybermat47 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 If theyd increase playercount to 64 or 75 it would certainly fix that:) Hmm. I hadn't noticed that the player count wasn't 75 already (not really a multiplayer person). Well, they should certainly fix that.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 so instead of 48 flying round in circles on the deck in airquake having 75 people doing the same thing would somehow make it more fun? If anyone cannot see enemy aircraft in a 48 man server then send me a PM and you can fly with us one night and I will show you how easy it is to find them.
SR-F_Winger Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Hmm. I hadn't noticed that the player count wasn't 75 already (not really a multiplayer person). Well, they should certainly fix that. Sorry i think you misunderstood me. I dont think playercount was 75 already. I am hoping it will become 75 soon.
Zak Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 and maybe or hopefully fix the YAK's flaps! What do you think is wrong with Yak's flaps?
BlitzPig_EL Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Simply increasing the number of server slots WILL NOT increase the number of players in total. That is the real issue. And it is one that most players and the development team still are sweeping under the carpet, or just totally fail to understand. You need more online players in the first place, before you can fill up increased numbers of open slots on servers. 2
mb339pan Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) need 64 players!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited June 5, 2015 by 150GCT_Pan 1
6./ZG26_Emil Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I want to see a patch that takes away the vertigo of onliners
PeterZvan Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) What do you think is wrong with Yak's flaps? That they give too much lift without the drag penalty. This was writen about in the thread where sustained turn rates were discussed and Yak was the only plane which showed a significant improvement in the sustained turn rate with the deployment of flaps. Said differently - if you fly a Yak and get bounced you deploy the flaps and can climb with the 109. And if you start turnfighting with the flaps you are much more maneuverable without the energy loss penalty. We had this in early acess before the flaps deployment speed was corrected - that correction fixed the issue However a few pathces ago this was adjusted again and again the Yaks flyi incorrectly. Yes it was not reported in teh right way, yes we dont have the right data - but this is not adding compared to the the behaviour of other planes in BoS so it is very strange. If this was the case in real life please just give us the data and we wont complain anymore. Or please fix the issue. Until than for me BoS is unenjoyable if I am either on the Soviet or the German side. And another thing - people dont like this and hence the loss of MP activity in BoS. The fact that the outcry because of the issue is so low should acctually worry you - it means that people just rather dont play anymore and go away - and dont care about BoS anymore. Please consider this. Edited June 5, 2015 by PeterZvan 6
SYN_Vorlander Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) What do you think is wrong with Yak's flaps? Well maybe there is nothing wrong with the Yak's flaps but all Yak pilots including myself will fly with the flaps down (0% -100%) high or low and hardly lose energy. Its not like you can tell me flying with the flaps at 30% or 60% give the Yaks optimal energy performance while turning continuously!? There are many players requesting the Dev's to look at the current state of the Yak flaps regarding the above matter. The Yak is flown like a Camel in ROF atm before the camel got a FM fix after many many years. If you are telling me that there is nothing wrong with the current FM regarding the Yaks ability to turn with the flaps at 100% and that is how it was flown by Russian pilots during the war I will belief you. Period. And move on. Edited June 5, 2015 by SYN_Vorlander 4
SR-F_Winger Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 +1 Peter. And I am just stopping by today since we got nothing to do at work..... The last time i fired up BOS is weeks ago. Once. And before that its months ago.
SCG_Neun Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) There's no excuse not to engage with this game, if you want to enjoy flying flightsims. It's all there. And the mission makers' forum isn't full of people complaining all the time. It tends to have people who are being constructive! +1 Edited June 5, 2015 by JagdNeun
jeanba Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Right day, wrong game : http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=709807#post709807 2
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) -snip- Also the wrong performance of the YAK is what turns me off. +1 Sad... This is what it should be since any of us require hard evidence to substantiate any of our claims... -snip- If you are to prove to me that there is nothing wrong with the current FM regarding the Yaks ability to turn with the flaps at 100% and that is how it was flown by Russian pilots during the war I will belief you. Period. And move on. Edited June 5, 2015 by 4./JG26_Adler
Urra Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 30 second flight of any aircraft over summer map would be nice.....
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I do hope that we could get 64 players on the server. I hate waiting for the "wings of liberty" server to open a place for me to fly. If I have to wait I rather play something else. and maybe or hopefully fix the YAK's flaps! this could be a great update before BOM I'm on my phone so I can't upvote at the moment, so hi-5 and +1. These two simple things would go a LONG way towards pacifying the MP masses. Odd that we have to pacify in order to get them to fight, eh?
Feathered_IV Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Right day, wrong game : http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=709807#post709807 4.13... At last!!! :biggrin:
Zak Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 That they give too much lift without the drag penalty.... Just sent this to Han, thanks for feedback. 3
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Zak, I don't have a problem with Yak overall speeds or the fact they can maneuver well with flaps extended. What is clear, however, is there is little speed or acceleration penalties to that aircraft with the flaps deployed and it is being taken advantage of in the game. It is counterintuitive to anyone who flys real world AC. The flaps, especially considering they are landing flaps not combat flaps, should have a much higher drag penalty than is currently seen in game. Edited June 5, 2015 by HerrMurf
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