What's up with the clouds?

[Reflected]

does anyone have the same problems as me?

 

Clouds look like a blurry smudge, and they don't conceal anything: one cannot hide in them because they only obscure the environment not planes. It's impossible to hide inside them. I find this surprising because RoF has the best clouds ever IMO.

[SharpeXB]

No I haven't noticed that. I can't see other aircraft through them.

[Finkeren]

I think the edges of some of the clouds are too blurry, but that's just how they look. I definately don't recognize the problem of being able to spot AC in clouds.

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

If mp, communication overlays (for either Teamspeak or Steam) will interfere with cloud rendering.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

If you want to see overcast cloud go on WOL btw :D

[BM357_TinMan]

If mp, communication overlays (for either Teamspeak or Steam) will interfere with cloud rendering.

hmm, I wonder if this is what is causing my issue.  I was wondering.

 

I'll have to check it out when I get home.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Cloud rendering is a bit wonky sometimes (see what happens when a plane is infront of a cloud)... but I've never had problems with them not obscuring an aircraft. That sounds a bit odd.

 

Do you have any screen caps?

[TheElf]

I don't use overlays and I have the same issue.  I Can see and be SEEN in clouds.  I play primarily multiplayer.  I think it depends on your range to the other plane, but I agree that clouds aren't nearly the deterrent in the game as the are in RL.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I don't use overlays and I have the same issue.  I Can see and be SEEN in clouds.  I play primarily multiplayer.  I think it depends on your range to the other plane, but I agree that clouds aren't nearly the deterrent in the game as the are in RL.

if you have steam overlay on, it renders the clouds weird. you can see through them. but last update fixed it.

[Reflected]

I don't have steam and the last update didn't fix it. I can easily follow enemies through clouds and they can easily see me.

[SharpeXB]

I don't have steam and the last update didn't fix it. I can easily follow enemies through clouds and they can easily see me.

Can you post a screenshot? Maybe put this over on the bugs section.

[216th_Jordan]

yes, post some evidence, thats the easiest way to sort this out.

[TheElf]

if you have steam overlay on, it renders the clouds weird. you can see through them. but last update fixed it.

 

I don't use steam.

[BM357_TinMan]

For me, I just confirmed, that the problems that I was having with cloud rendering was due to the TS Overlay.  When it isn't running, the clouds seem to render pretty nicely.  But when it is running, they look funky when flying through them.

[Reflected]

Sorry guys to revive this old thread but this is getting very inconvenient:

 

Clouds can conceal a plane that is far away from me and I’m above the cloud, and he’s below. When the other plane is more or less at the same level, within a mile they can follow me through the middle of a cloud without losing sight. This is highly unrealistic.

 

Yesterday I was chased by a La-5, I pulled up into the cloud and kept climbing and turning. He followed me all the way through and ended up shooting me down. Inside the cloud. I didn’t take a screenshot because I was busy saving my skin – in vain.

 

I can’t believe it’s just me.

[TWC_Ace]

I have also blurry clouds no matter which setting I use. Also there is an issue with plane shapes in front of the clouds. Plane edges are fuzzy like transparent. Issue can be seen when using flyby view or when looking from cockpit. From f2 external is ok. No such issue in ROF. Must be connected with the way clouds are rendering or some texture issue.

[SR-F_Winger]

Agreed. Vision in clouds should become more restricted. At least when youre right in the mmiddle of it.

As is one is still able to see the prop the whole time. Not good for either side.

@Reflected: You not being able to outclimb him must have been due to the fect that he had much more energy? Why else would he be able to follow you otherwise?

[PatrickShiva]

Sorry guys to revive this old thread but this is getting very inconvenient:

 

Clouds can conceal a plane that is far away from me and I’m above the cloud, and he’s below. When the other plane is more or less at the same level, within a mile they can follow me through the middle of a cloud without losing sight. This is highly unrealistic.

 

Yesterday I was chased by a La-5, I pulled up into the cloud and kept climbing and turning. He followed me all the way through and ended up shooting me down. Inside the cloud. I didn’t take a screenshot because I was busy saving my skin – in vain.

 

I can’t believe it’s just me.

+1

[FuriousMeow]

Depends where you are at in the clouds. Some parts are thicker than others and will conceal an aircraft that's twenty five yards in front of you, others you'll see a faint outline at 100 yards. Or they'll pass through a break in the clouds themselves and you'll get a clear view. Just like real clouds, these aren't 100% solid from edge to edge unlike the way other flight sims have rendered clouds.

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Sorry guys to revive this old thread but this is getting very inconvenient:

 

Clouds can conceal a plane that is far away from me and I’m above the cloud, and he’s below. When the other plane is more or less at the same level, within a mile they can follow me through the middle of a cloud without losing sight. This is highly unrealistic.

 

Yesterday I was chased by a La-5, I pulled up into the cloud and kept climbing and turning. He followed me all the way through and ended up shooting me down. Inside the cloud. I didn’t take a screenshot because I was busy saving my skin – in vain.

 

I can’t believe it’s just me.

 

Maybe the guy chasing you was still using a communications overlay, in which case he could see you as if there were no clouds.

[Reflected]

Maybe the guy chasing you was still using a communications overlay, in which case he could see you as if there were no clouds.

 

I could see him too.

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Not all clouds in the game or real life are created equal.  I use clouds for concealment when flying to target at times when it makes sense.  Seems to work well.  FuriousMeow explained it well above.  Disappearing into a cloud is a slow process, not immediate.  The clouds in BOS are the best I have have seen rendered in a game.  Posting an example of an issue is always helpful.

 

BTW, the aliasing of aircraft when in front of clouds seems to be gone.

[Y-29.Silky]

I lose aircraft in the clouds, and have escaped in them, but... This goes for the sun too...

If I'm chasing someone and zoom in fully, I can see everything.

 

Zooming in... It's kind of sad I see so many people zoom in like their pilots have built-in telescopes, especially when they shoot

Edited July 22, 2015 by Y-29.Silky

[Willy__]

 

 

If I'm chasing someone and zoom in fully, I can see everything.   Zooming in... It's kind of sad I see so many people zoom in like their pilots have built-in telescopes, especially when they shoot

 

Unfortunately zoom is a necessary feature, otherwise spotting contacts at distance would be almost impossible, but you know how people are, if they can game the game to take an advantage, they will. 

[Reflected]

Here is an example:

 

 

[Willy__]

Is that inside of a cloud ? Strange, here I cannot see planes inside clouds, the exception is when I'm really close to them, and even then I only see their propeller if I fully zoom in.

Edited July 23, 2015 by istruba

[FuriousMeow]

I lose aircraft in the clouds, and have escaped in them, but... This goes for the sun too...

 

If I'm chasing someone and zoom in fully, I can see everything.

 

Zooming in... It's kind of sad I see so many people zoom in like their pilots have built-in telescopes, especially when they shoot

 

The thing with zooming in is that it no longer renders things outside of the field of zoom. If I'm interpreting what you are saying correctly. Like you see a plane, and it gets close to the edge of the sun and you see the sun but now the sun's effects cause glare/blindness but then you zoom in and the sun is no longer in view so it's effects are no longer applied?

 

If that is what I think you are saying, it's an unfortunate problem of playing on computers. Lots of things can be blocked out of rendering or impacts negated by slight view adjustments just due to the way computer rendering works in general. If it's not what you're saying, then I is confused and wrong.

Here is an example:

 

You really need to show more stages of what is going on. That just looks like a hazy view of a plane. You need to show fully zoomed out from cockpit view, and the stages zooming in until you achieve that view above. That screenshot literally tells us nothing as to what should actually be blocking the view of that aircraft, what clouds he's in, etc.

Edited July 24, 2015 by FuriousMeow

[SharpeXB]

Like you see a plane, and it gets close to the edge of the sun and you see the sun but now the sun's effects cause glare/blindness but then you zoom in and the sun is no longer in view so it's effects are no longer applied?

I always thought it's a realistic feature that you can hide the sun glare with the edge of your screen in the same way would could do it with your hand in reality. I think every flight sim is like this.

 Zooming in... It's kind of sad I see so many people zoom in like their pilots have built-in telescopes, especially when they shoot

Zooming in doesn't necessarily make anything larger than reality. That depends on the size of your monitor. It should be obvious that everything you see on a PC screen is smaller and blurrier than it is in reality unless you have a very large high res screen. And even 4K doesn't approach real world acuity.

[Fern]

Bump

[kendo]

Bump

 

Why......?!

[Alkyan]

For myself I can see the propeller of my target in the clouds. The main body is hidden. I used it few time to murder people in mp :/

[Fern]

Why......?!

 

Because I can see/follow plane through clouds. I shouldnt be able to.

Edited October 3, 2015 by Fern

[Voidhunger]

Because I can see/follow plane through clouds. I shouldnt be able to.

 

Yes, I can see plane through clouds too

[Willy__]

And I've been followed through clouds many times.

[Reflected]

I would like to bump this thread because it comes up every time: clouds mask other planes in the distance, but once within 0.5-1 km, they are clearly visible. This is very wrong.

 

In all kinds of pilot's accounts I read how they hid in the clouds, yet when I try it in MP, people just follow me and shoot me to pieces. (I can also see them following me at several hundreds of meters).

 

What I don't understand is that it was very well modeled in RoF. How come BoS has this issue, and how come we haven't heard any feedback about this from the devs? I know it might not be their No.1 priority, but it really is an important detail.

 

Thanks! 

[Feathered_IV]

I hope this will be improved in future too.  Also the way the clouds seem to flicker and look as if they are marching from left to right.

[bokepacha]

Reflected, you should record a small video with this issue. If not, it´s imposible to give a good diagnostic. You have the tools ingame to record the video.