SharpeXB Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 As far as I know Desastersoft campaigns for CLoD were not a success and they will not be making any more due to the very small amount of return on investment Not surprising considering how good they are ;-)
Juri_JS Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 I would already be more than happy if the developers would just give us mission builders the possibility to combine our missions done in the FMB into a campaign, like in the old Il-2, and add stats to single player mission mode. This would at least allow static careers/campaigns done by the community. It's beyond me why the developers have so far shown no interest in adding such basic options to the game. 4
jeanba Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 I didn't like the Pat Wilson campaign programe very much. To be honest I found it ugly and intrusive. The only thing that it had going for it was that it could be widely configured. If 777 had allowed the beta career to be user-configurable, there would have been no use for PWCG. On the contrary, I love more and more PWCG : I always play it for scout campaigns, and only do arty spotting aand recon campaigns on beta career The missions are much more interesting with more variations
6./ZG26_Emil Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 I would already be more than happy if the developers would just give us mission builders the possibility to combine our missions done in the FMB into a campaign, like in the old Il-2, and add stats to single player mission mode. This would at least allow static careers/campaigns done by the community. It's beyond me why the developers have so far shown no interest in adding such basic options to the game. If they can do it in ROF shouldn't it just mean certain tools need to be bolted on to the FME?
Juri_JS Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 If they can do it in ROF shouldn't it just mean certain tools need to be bolted on to the FME? It has nothing to do with the FMB. Combining missions into a campaign could be done with a simple text file that gives the correct order of the missions. That's how it is done in Il-2 1946. The main work that needs to be done by the developers is creating the necessary GUI for the user-made campaign/career menue and the stat system that is based on the information from the mission log files. 1
Livai Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 I pay for Mods On Mode, Directx 12 and more MCUs Commands for the Full Misson Builder. And I pay for the =FB=LOFT Idea about a Coop-Campaign where I can choose to fly together or against other players or just the AI.
=VARP=Cygann Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 I didn't like the Pat Wilson campaign programe very much. To be honest I found it ugly and intrusive. The only thing that it had going for it was that it could be widely configured. If 777 had allowed the beta career to be user-configurable, there would have been no use for PWCG. I don't know what to say really on this. PWCG does so much more then ROFS bC in mission description, post mission analysis, kill claims, etc...it's not just configuration, although that might very well be best advantage. Oh and you can fly PWCG missions in coop with friends, try coops without it and see how long you have until you run out of missions or how much time you need to make your own coop missions to play with others. Sorry but you should not talk down on best 3rd party software that happened to ROF game, bC would need probably year of work just to get on same level of features.
Trident_109 Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 As I understand it the current campaign system in BoS will not support a dynamic campaign like many single players are asking for, where your progress is metered and any achievements are documented. Your progress can inflict change on the map though not on the outcome of the war. Desastersoft can only work within the means of the FMB so it wouldn't be a true dynamic campaign but a series of missions tied together by mission briefings. Would I pay for those sorts of missions? If the engine would support a more robust environment instead of eight planes and the occasional ground battle we see now I might consider it based on the community reviews and the quality of Desastersoft's work. Now, if a REAL campaign system was in the offering I'd think hard about it, but probably not. IMO, this is something that should have been included in the beginning. I invested in BoS based on past experiences with RoF and Jason's previous interactions with the community. I know I'm not the only one who expected something closer to what was available in RoF than what we got. Often times the rally call when asked about what to expect in BoS was to download RoF and experience for yourself. I don't think it's out of line to have expected similar.So... having invested $89.95 and not getting something I believe should have been included doesn't set well with me. So far I haven't invested in BoM and probably won't. Throwing even twenty dollars to have a campaign system is not worth it to me despite me being primarily an off line player. Call it principal. Call it cutting my nose off to spite my face. Whatever... Maybe paying a certain amount for the campaign with a discount toward future investment to BoM??? I'd consider that. 1
BlueHeron Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 It's a shame Desastersoft did not make much money from their add-ons. For me, it's what made Cliffs of Dover fun (finally) and I would gladly buy more stuff from them for either sim. So yes, I would pay for a good single player experience.
radio Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Yes I would pay like systems as PWCG or Desastersoft. Martin
Veteran66 Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Desastersoft have this time no interest for a BoS campaign.
TheElf Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Perhaps it's more accurate le0ne to ask if you'd pay for the development of a campaign "structure". The coding to process, grant or deny kill claims, allow you lead and train a squadron, manage pilots, cope with experience, morale, fatigue or mechanical readiness. Juggle the demands of headquarters against the survival of the unit.... The framework to simulate what it was to serve in an active unit in wartime. I would consider paying for this IF it came with new content to support the Campaign New plane or two, new objects, new map.... It would depend on the price point and the extent to which the SP community was serviced by the effort. But this mentality would not be popular...tread lightly on thin ice... I am as loyal a BoS supporter as any, but after droping around $200 US I think there needs to be something coming the way of the community. BoS has a SP campaign out of the box. The fact that no one plays it isn't my fault. The fact is, I am already invested, and the Devs have my money, more in fact than I've spent on any other game. I would argue that the economics of an amazing SP experience, should there ever be one, would be satisfied by the masses of unwashed Simmers who have yet to pay THEIR $200 for the products offered to date. Rather than trying to squeeze more cash out of current supporters of the title, improve upon the current product such that new players are drawn to the series and end up monetizing by having them purchase BoS, BoM, and BoX at full price rather than nickle and diming folks who are already all in.
Jade_Monkey Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 it would have to be really good with a lot of attention to detail to be worth it to me. also, i'd probably not pay more than $20. a bunch of SP missions loosely put together does not count. we have community made missions such as the veteranen campaign for free if that was the case (for which im very grateful)
[KWN]T-oddball Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Desastersoft have this time no interest for a BoS campaign. 777 Studios is on the Point, Players should do it by their self’s. Desastersoft style Campaigns are not needed, they say. Community will make it. We offered in the beginning our knowledge, but they did no more answer after 2 Mails. Sorry, there will not be stuff of us for it in the near future.
KoN_ Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) Definitely NOT. Cant believe that some of you are saying yes ... some of you need to get out more . maybe get some fresh air and have a re-think . Or better still get a girlfriend . isnt a $100.00 enough . Tobe honest im pissed i paid $52.00 to fly around in empty servers. Edited May 25, 2015 by Con 1
sallee Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Definitely NOT. Cant believe that some of you are saying yes ... some of you need to get out more . maybe get some fresh air and have a re-think . Or better still get a girlfriend . isnt a $100.00 enough . Tobe honest im pissed i paid $52.00 to fly around in empty servers. You be con, I'll be pro. 1
6./ZG26_Emil Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Definitely NOT. Cant believe that some of you are saying yes ... some of you need to get out more . maybe get some fresh air and have a re-think . Or better still get a girlfriend . isnt a $100.00 enough . Tobe honest im pissed i paid $52.00 to fly around in empty servers. 100 bucks? I've spent ten times as much on Thai hookers and coke and that was on a work night
Rjel Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 After thinking the question over I think I would. Especially if it were set up in a way that would make it expandable, with the ability to fly the same campaign from both sides.
SCG_Neun Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 I would already be more than happy if the developers would just give us mission builders the possibility to combine our missions done in the FMB into a campaign, like in the old Il-2, and add stats to single player mission mode. This would at least allow static careers/campaigns done by the community. It's beyond me why the developers have so far shown no interest in adding such basic options to the game. +1
Finkeren Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Definitely NOT. Cant believe that some of you are saying yes ... some of you need to get out more . maybe get some fresh air and have a re-think . Or better still get a girlfriend . isnt a $100.00 enough . Tobe honest im pissed i paid $52.00 to fly around in empty servers. Yeah, we sure got ripped off... I've only spent, like, 200 hours so far in BoS. That sure isn't a lot for a price roughly the same as a nice dinner with the wife (if we split the bill). Why in the world would I want to pay a little more for something that would keep me entertained for another 500 hours?
dhillr Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Sure I would. The only reason I hesitate over BoM is the poor campaign of BoS which was not even a "Campaign".
Comes Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Sure I would. The only reason I hesitate over BoM is the poor campaign of BoS which was not even a "Campaign". Same Here. Otherwise it would be a no brainer for me...
3instein Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 I would already be more than happy if the developers would just give us mission builders the possibility to combine our missions done in the FMB into a campaign, like in the old Il-2, and add stats to single player mission mode. This would at least allow static careers/campaigns done by the community. It's beyond me why the developers have so far shown no interest in adding such basic options to the game. Quoted for it's basic, honest, truth. Mick.
Skoop Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Definitely NOT. Cant believe that some of you are saying yes ... some of you need to get out more . maybe get some fresh air and have a re-think . Or better still get a girlfriend . isnt a $100.00 enough . Tobe honest im pissed i paid $52.00 to fly around in empty servers. The servers aren't empty, I see 30 to 40 players on everyday at 10 to noon pst on wings of liberty. It just seems to be empy when you fly. It seems euro times are better for this sim.
CheeseGromit Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 The idea is of interest to me. My decision to purchase would be contingent on quality of the campaign and its features, price and how long it would take to develop. I agree with the comments about providing better tools for the community to make campaign content. Whilst I'm dubious about the quality of community made content it seems like the community is far more interested in the idea of a better campaign. I need to put some effort into seeing what's been made already.
Toxin1 Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Yes I would pay to support development of a historical campaign module/add-on.
-TBC-AeroAce Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 I would pay for sure but maybe I'm bias as if 777 was selling turds I would probably buy one. On a serious note I think the emphasis should be in the creation of tools so the community can take over
Godspeed Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Not going to pay anymore! I want the dynamic career mode to come back. BOS has very little to offer for me.. Not happy. Last downer was to know that BF-110 is not coming to BOS And now they are making a new game...
Saurer Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Not going to pay anymore! I want the dynamic career mode to come back. BOS has very little to offer for me.. Not happy. Last downer was to know that BF-110 is not coming to BOS And now they are making a new game... BOM can be used as a Addon or as a Stand alone, it is not a new game
Godspeed Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) BOM can be used as a Addon or as a Stand alone, it is not a new game I really dont care. For me its a new game since it costs full games price. If its not a new game why i cant just buy it as addons lowered price because i have already paid for the engine in BOS. Edited May 26, 2015 by Godspeed
Saurer Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Price is another thing offcorse, I ment that improvments on BOM will effect BOS aswell
KoN_ Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 100 bucks? I've spent ten times as much on Thai hookers and coke and that was on a work night Dam wish i could join you . without the coke cocola though . The servers aren't empty, I see 30 to 40 players on everyday at 10 to noon pst on wings of liberty. It just seems to be empy when you fly. It seems euro times are better for this sim. I only fly expert not the arcade servers . The sim is far from finished i wouldnt pay anymore money for some thing that should of been in place before release to public .
ZaknafeinTV Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Guys, BoS as a game is still not ended, there is no stats system, servers are cut off to 42 players. They have engine which is not finished, and the devs only add new planes and maps calling it BoM, and they make us pay for it 99.99 Euro. Now you want pay for SP mission ? LOL 1
LLv24_Zami Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 Guys, BoS as a game is still not ended, there is no stats system, servers are cut off to 42 players. They have engine which is not finished, and the devs only add new planes and maps calling it BoM, and they make us pay for it 99.99 Euro. Now you want pay for SP mission ? LOL Thats right. And BoM did cost 76 euros IIRC.
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