Should all Premium Founder get the weapons mods & skins

[Shea]

Hi guys,i pre-ordered il2:BOS on the 7th of this month,i was just looking through the forums and seen that if you pre-ordered before September 1th you would get a weapons mod and order by the 1th of october you get plane skins and a bf 109 mod.To me i think this is very unfair and i think that who ever orders the premium edition,no matter which month should get the same content.And to be fair the price is the same as when the pre-order started.What do you guys think

Edited October 15, 2013 by Shea

[AndyJWest]

I think that before you start a poll, it is worth checking whether you've got your facts straight. 

[Shea]

And the facts are????

[Gunsmith86]

There is a poll from the developers for that vote there:

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1568-poll-your-opinion-gift-exclusiveness/

[Jochen]

There is a poll from the developers for that vote there:

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1568-poll-your-opinion-gift-exclusiveness/

 

Not quite ... that is the R7 mod poll. This is the "We who pre-ordered after Oct. 1 and don't get any exclusives but want equality"-poll.

Because at this point, some animals are more equal than others and those typically whine the most about community equality regarding the R7 mod. "Animal Farm" anyone? Perhaps some self-reflection is opportune.

 

 

Edited October 15, 2013 by Jochen

[Matt]

 

And the facts are????

That every founder will get the Bf 109 F-4 20mm gunpods. Doesn't matter if you preordered before or in october.

[Gunsmith86]

Not quite ... that is the R7 mod poll. This is the "We who pre-ordered after Oct. 1 and don't get any exclusives but want equality"-poll.

Because at this point, some animals are more equal than others and those typically whine the most about community equality regarding the R7 mod. "Animal Farm" anyone? Perhaps some self-reflection is opportune.

And were do you get thes infos from because i cant read anything of that in the News!

 

Dear Plots,

 

The long-awaited autumn has come to Moscow bringing nasty, windy weather, cold rains and…some serious news that you've been waiting for.

 

Thanks to the enthusiasm and support that you have shared during the pre-order program, our IL2:BOS project has grown and matured greatly. At this time we would like to express special appreciation to the Founders, those of you who have given us a hand when we truly needed it. The pre-order program as described on the official site will continue on in October until the autumn early access period begins. The exact date will be announced soon. With the beginning of the early access phase the early access pre-order program will shut down. After that we’ll publish the retail price for Standard and Premium editions of IL2:BOS as well as further details about the product.

 

Until then you’re welcome to continue pre-ordering the game and receive access to all guaranteed bonuses and other Founder privileges. We've prepared a special gift for everyone who will have purchased a pre-order before it expires. The gift is the R7 weapon modification for Bf.109F-4 - 2х20mm MG151/20 gun pods that you’ll obtain in the game when it’s released. Note that this mod is unique and will only be available by preordering the game and joining the IL2BOS Founders.

 

So you will get all that things too if i read it right.

 

http://il2sturmovik.com/news/16/pre-order-and-early-access/

Edited October 15, 2013 by Gunsmith86

[Rjel]

Not quite ... that is the R7 mod poll. This is the "We who pre-ordered after Oct. 1 and don't get any exclusives but want equality"-poll.

Because at this point, some animals are more equal than others and those typically whine the most about community equality regarding the R7 mod. "Animal Farm" anyone? Perhaps some self-reflection is opportune.

 

 

It's hard for me to judge your point here. But if it will stop these pitiful posts about someone not getting treated fairly, I'll gladly give up my "exclusive" whatevers.

[Cybermat47]

It's a bit annoying that I don't get the exclusives I wanted just because I didn't have the money available in time, but it won't stop me from enjoying the game

[Klien]

S! Sirs;

 

 

LOL

[LLv44_Mprhead]

Let me explain my take on the issue. First of all, every founder is going to get 20mm gunpods for F-4, about field mod gunner for IL-2, I'm not sure how it will go, is that something that only those who have preordered before certain date get the gunner unlocked straight away and others will need to unlock it by playing. Anyways, if you are a founder, then you will be able to get all the weapon mods one way or the other. So there will be nothing that influences gameplay that some founder will get and someone else will not.

About the rest of the content, skins that is, I see nothing wrong development team being able to use some little marketing incentive. Like "if you preorder by date N.N. you will get this skin that nobody else will be able to get." Those are for giving people motivation to invest in earlier stage of development and by that, also taking bigger risk. Because every week that goes by with more info coming in, less in the dark you are when making the decision to buy the game. If you would remove that, then you would be removing one marketing tool form the developers and that is unfair imo.

[Jochen]

Let's put an end to all this discussion; there are a lot of other and more important things in life to worry about.

I do hope 777 will pick up on our complaint/concern though.

I was not aware of the special Bf.109 skin cut-off date of October 1 ( I have been eye-balling pre-order since finding out about this game in July/August), and it's really a bummer to miss out on it. I think that, in combination with finding out that the "exclusive" R7 mod (that finally made me pre-order) is not so special after all caused my grief.

Other than that, eagerly awaiting Alpha. I think we all know not to expect it to run flawlessly.

It will be great taking off for a virtual battlefield tour in the Bf.109 or Ju.87.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Jochen

[Stlkrash]

You know what would be a nice little add in and probably not to hard to do, maybe if they put a transfer of equipment ability in the game it could work.  Maybe if you're "in the same squad" or what ever, you can share or transfer things like skins and gun pods.  Thinking purely realistic, if you were in a squadron on an aero, you would more than likely be sharing equipment in some way..

 

For example player A has a set of gun pods he wont be using, or just doesn't really want them, well he could trade that or share it with his mates.  Player B, I will trade you a set of pods for that long range drop tank kit or some thing...

 

Just an idea...

[Jochen]

That would be nice, simulating front supply shortages.

[Jaws2002]

The October first deadline was posted months in advance.

With those few rewards they thank the guys that gave them the money before too much content could be shown. That's money they could use before the game was close to release.

 

Anyone who read the press releases knew about October 1st.

I think it's fair.

Edited October 16, 2013 by Jaws2002

[dkoor]

The October first deadline was posted months in advance.

With those few rewards they thank the guys that gave them the money before too much content could be shown. That's money they could use before the game was close to release.

 

Anyone who read the press releases knew about October 1st.

I think it's fair.

I stand by your statement too.

I think all those that are interested in this genre know about this game...

 

Sturmovik was out for more than one decade, everyone and their mothers interested in WW2 airsims know about it.

When you google IL-2 you get here. Nothing much more to it really.

 

Personally I'd get the game muuch sooner but I had my share of troubles recently and I'm just happy to be able to get it before Oct 1st because of that exclusive F4 skin.

 

I don't however support the idea that something as important as gunpods are is being made exclusive and unobtainable later...

 

But if there isn't some rather 'harmless' exclusive founder material such is that F4 skin, would this be fair to the people that shelled out their money in advance and showed ultimate support to the genre?

I think not.

[Jaws2002]

The earlier you support a product the more you get for your money. It's standard practice and I think it's fair. It's not like we get a bunch of planes more than those who got it after october 1st.

A skin won't make much of a difference anyway. It's just a simbolic "thank you" for those that commited financially earlier.

[dkoor]

Yep.

[Jochen]

I see nothing wrong development team being able to use some little marketing incentive. Like "if you preorder by date N.N. you will get this skin that nobody else will be able to get".

 

The R7 mod was used the same way; as an exclusive pre-order incentive. And you know how that is likely going to end.

 

Note that this (edit: R7) mod is unique and will only be available by preordering the game and joining the IL2BOS Founders.

 

Edited October 17, 2013 by Jochen

[Klien]

S! Sirs;

 

OK, Shea, If you scroll back a bit you will see where I laughed at you ( With You).

 

This is why - http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/168-developer-diary/?do=findComment&comment=39062

 

Hope the Developers have pleased you.

 

Note - I read the English version = Very well written.

[Jochen]

S! Klien,

 

I don't know what you read where, but I don't distil what you did from the latest devblog.

I gave up on receiving any pre-order exclusives; it's just how it is, sadly.

Looking forward to the Alpha access now.

 

Jochen

[Karost]

I don't how to set poll for

"Should all Premium Fonders get discount  for a next purchase"   

[SOLIDKREATE]

No, we got early access and they gave us a lot of starter planes that future players will most likely have to pay for. Plus they wouldn't make any money and the SIM would die. There are a ton of us Founders. I say maybe just some exclusive plane releases or weapon packages. Say for example we can have the Bf-109G-6/AS and the other players can only get the 'vanilla' Bf-109G-6.

Edited November 23, 2013 by Erg./JG54_SPEKTRE

[Stray]

I stand by your statement too.

I think all those that are interested in this genre know about this game...

 

Sturmovik was out for more than one decade, everyone and their mothers interested in WW2 airsims know about it.

When you google IL-2 you get here. Nothing much more to it really.

 

Personally I'd get the game muuch sooner but I had my share of troubles recently and I'm just happy to be able to get it before Oct 1st because of that exclusive F4 skin.

 

I don't however support the idea that something as important as gunpods are is being made exclusive and unobtainable later...

 

But if there isn't some rather 'harmless' exclusive founder material such is that F4 skin, would this be fair to the people that shelled out their money in advance and showed ultimate support to the genre?

I think not.

 

You are mistaken...

 

Sturmovik was not out, it still is and it is very much alive. There are dozens of active squads out there, flying 1946 on daily basis. Multiplayer is still big, Team Daidalos works on next update and team behind HSFX Mod will eventually update their mod. We got over a HUNDRED of flyable aircraft, new effects with each update, too. Mission builders are still building new missions, the biggest website for the il-2 community has over 60 THOUSAND registered users and new ones register daily ( www.mission4today.com ). To fly multiplayer you need HyperLobby installed.

 

Googling "IL-2" gives me whole page of results for 1946, Bos the second from the bottom. You should at least try googling for something before you make such a claim.

 

Peace.

Edited November 23, 2013 by 9./JG54_Stray