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BraveSirRobin
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Yeah it's a pity we can't have some discussion without it going downhill....

 

Yeah, it would be nice.  But he people who constantly trash the game make it a little difficult.  

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When people clearly have the distain for a sim to the degree some folks posting on here have, it's only going to go one way, unfortunately.

Oh. So you have to love this game in order to post here? Can you show me that in a sticky?

 

No?

 

Then how about using ignore or let the moderators decide. My point is valid in my first post on this thread to the topic. My like or dislike of this game does not change it.

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BraveSirRobin
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Oh. So you have to love this game in order to post here? Can you show me that in a sticky?

 

 

That isn't what he said.  But thanks for providing a great example for why it's so difficult to prevent discussions from downhill.

6./ZG26_Custard
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Oh. So you have to love this game in order to post here? Can you show me that in a sticky?
No you don't have to love the game but constant stirring of the pot is pointless.

 

It's clear you have no time for this sim so why waste your time. If I went on ATAG trashing the work of TF telling them that the "run on rails" FM's the childish take off and landings and the samey handling of all the aircraft sucks, I would last 20 seconds.  

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No you don't have to love the game but constant stirring of the pot is pointless.

 

It's clear you have no time for this sim so why waste your time. If I went on ATAG trashing the work of TF telling them that the "run on rails" FM's the childish take off and landings and the samey handling of all the aircraft sucks, I would last 20 seconds.

First off I have never played on an atag server in my life. Second I have not played any Sim in months. Want to check my steam profile for proof? Why are you even brining that up in the first place?

 

And how is it clear I have no time for this Sim? You know me? Then use ignore and stop taking it to off topic for your mini rants.

6./ZG26_Custard
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Then use ignore and stop taking it to off topic for your mini rants.
  The only one who is mini ranting is you. We get it, you don't like Bos, fair enough, understood etc, etc . 
SCG_Space_Ghost
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The only one who is mini ranting is you. We get it, you don't like Bos, fair enough, understood etc, etc .

 

I don't see any ranting.

 

I do see a bunch of people who can't take any criticism of their favorite game.

 

Fair enough. Happens a lot around here, etc, etc.

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BraveSirRobin
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Break it up you two. You're grown men ffs!

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Oh dear. Adler and BSR meet. It's matter and anti-matter! Flee for the hills.

SCG_Space_Ghost
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6./ZG26_Custard
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I don't see any ranting.

 

I do see a bunch of people who can't take any criticism of their favorite game.

 

Fair enough. Happens a lot around here, etc, etc.

There is a big difference between criticism and down right trashing and that happens on this forum a lot from certain individuals......  And that really does happen a lot etc, etc.

SCG_Space_Ghost
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There is a big difference between criticism and down right trashing and that happens on this forum a lot from certain individuals......  And that really does happen a lot etc, etc.

Nah, not really.

 

Vaxxtx's continued criticism is some of the best thought out that there is to read.

 

Whether or not you agree is no problem of mine.

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LOL!

And I don't say that very often!

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BraveSirRobin
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6./ZG26_Custard
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Vaxxtx's continued criticism is some of the best thought out that there is to read.

 

 

Like, really???

 

 

 

  I have not played any Sim in months

 

How can you criticise something that you admit you don't fly in?

SCG_Space_Ghost
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Like, really???

 

 

 

 

How can you criticise something that you admit you don't fly in?

 

When compared to somebody like superghostboy, yes, "like" really.  :rolleyes:

 

Pretty simple: the things Vaxxtx criticizes the most haven't changed in months! 

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simplyjames
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I'd like to propose that if two people on this message board disagree they have to dogfight to the death best out of 3. 

film it of course.

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Honestly it worries me how little they update. Times have changed and if you ask people for $100 upfront months before release you better be updating people on progress constantly. There's a reason most devs now a days have constant dialogue with their customers. 

 

Are there going to be new features? Are there going to be fixes? Do they completely ignore their customers or are they implementing changes/features they ask for? Where's the ship headed? WHO KNOWS? That doesn't give a lot of faith to the general public. I mean, I worry that they don't even have a programmer at all at this point. 

 

I really like this game and want to pick up BoM badly but i just can't pull the trigger on a ghost ship. Hopefully the update this week is a good one and hopefully updates come more frequently than every 3 weeks to a month from here on out. I really want this game to do well. 

 

The last time I checked BoM was going for $80... and BoS went for $90... and there were updates just about every week prior and after release save a few weeks until recently .. I am certain that when there is more to say there will be more said.

 

They update every week except when they have holidays. We get more updates than any previous IL2 title by a long way. We've already seen pics of the 110, P40, Mc202, E7 and I16 so it's a fairly safe bet that this isn't like some kick starter which no progress. 

 

Also their release dates for patches etc have been spot on almost everytime again better than any previous IL2 release.

 

Personally I think they've done a great job keeping us in the loop, I would like a bit more talk over future ideas/features they're thinking about but that's me :)

 

I can't wait to fly the new aircraft and Q1 2016 is feeling like a very long way off so the early access will be most welcome....at least to keep me going until the summer maps come out :D

 

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Doubt that, but it's clear that there are a few people coming into this forum to sow seeds of discontent, and what a shame.

 

I can only think that the best course of action for  said individuals who find BoS not to their liking should probably go back to their respective sims of choice instead of the constantly bemoaning a sim that they clearly don't like.

 

 

It makes no sense to me either.. but don't feed it and it won't grow.

 

 

Maybe because there are no changes being made beyond a map and planes? Pretty simple really. Nothing is changing.

 

Didn't Loft say on the 15th that people buying BoM buy it because BoS is good/right?

 

 

That is your opinion that nothing is changing.

 

I remember Jason saying that about the campaign weeks ago, so it is a positive point that should be reinforced within the DD section. I can't speak for the antagonist in this forum, but the best way to silence the negativity is to give us some directional plans for this game. I hear about the Loft comments, and I read the Jason comments....

I read Zaks section and he appears to be the PR person...I'm not trying to stir anything up, just get some game information....the more information the better and the less "speculation" .

 

There are directional plans for the sim.. that have been communicated.. they are plain for all to see... Just because they have slowed down a bit for the moment  does not mean that they are not coming.. or that they will not pick up when there is more to tell. We know that there are spring maps coming, We know that BoM is in the works.. We know that gunboats are coming...  We know that another map for this sim is coming...

 

There is no reason to even suggest that anything about this sim is vaporware. This is the thing that gets many folks bent out of shape about "the critics".. if all it was was criticism there would be less of an issue.. but when 90% of what a person posts on any given products forum is negativity about that product one has to ask one's self what is the agenda...

 

There is no reason to think that updates will not be forthcoming.

 

We need to get this thread back into discussion of the topic at hand mode or it will be closed. There is a PM function here for the back and forth stuff. Use it if you must.

Skeptical_Bunny
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Oh. So you have to love this game in order to post here? Can you show me that in a sticky?

 

No?

 

Then how about using ignore or let the moderators decide. My point is valid in my first post on this thread to the topic. My like or dislike of this game does not change it.

LOL I see nothing wrong with a little negative criticism, that's mostly what I have been giving this game on this forum since I started playing it. IMO the game as a whole is quite good, but there are a lot of it that is just pure crap. The game is generally of bad quality, but that doesn't mean I do not like to play it. I'm having fun playing online, so.. I will continue to play till BoS most likely dries out when BoM goes public.

6./ZG26_Custard
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I certainly hope we get some news and a DD tomorrow.

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LOL I see nothing wrong with a little negative criticism, that's mostly what I have been giving this game on this forum since I started playing it. IMO the game as a whole is quite good, but there are a lot of it that is just pure crap. The game is generally of bad quality, but that doesn't mean I do not like to play it. I'm having fun playing online, so.. I will continue to play till BoS most likely dries out when BoM goes public.

 

BoS and BoM will wind up being part of the same sim... Mark my words. I know they are being marketed as an either or.. but eventually they will be one sim.

ShamrockOneFive
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BoS and BoM will wind up being part of the same sim... Mark my words. I know they are being marketed as an either or.. but eventually they will be one sim.

 

For better or worse it's going to be the Pacific Fighters situation. Some folks bought Pacific Fighters but then ended up wanting the whole thing. BoS + BoM is going to be huge. Flying the 110E at Stalingrad? Oh yeah... I'm going to be doing that!

 

People still don't seem to get that engine updates for BoM also mean updates for BoS at the same time. They can't be merged without having the same core. Heck... we're still seeing new content for BoS like the gunboats on the summer version of the Volga map. I was pretty pleased to see that we're not just getting a reskinned map but something with substance too.

 

I encourage folks to be critical but they themselves have to be critical of their statements. BoS has some serious issues not yet resolved but that doesn't make it a terrible game either and at the end of the day I ask folks if they are enjoying themselves or not. If they aren't... maybe this isn't for them? I'm not sure.

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There are directional plans for the sim.. that have been communicated.. they are plain for all to see... Just because they have slowed down a bit for the moment  does not mean that they are not coming.. or that they will not pick up when there is more to tell. We know that there are spring maps coming, We know that BoM is in the works.. We know that gunboats are coming...  We know that another map for this sim is coming... there is no reason to even suggest that anything about this sim is vaporware. This is the thing that gets many folks bent out of shape about "the critics".. if all it was was criticism there would be less of an issue.. but when 90% of what a person posts on any given products forum is negativity about that product one has to ask one's self what is the agenda...

 

There is no reason to think that updates will not be forthcoming.

 

We need to get this thread back into discussion of the topic at hand mode or it will be closed. There is a PM function here for the back and forth stuff. Use it if you must.

Since you quote me here and list these comments below me....I take it that this is addressing me in particular, so let me just repeat...maps and boats are great, but what about some of the corrective tweaks that most of us admit need to be addressed...If you read my posts you will see....I'm asking can some of this stuff really be fixed with third party input...are the tools there?  It's a question directed towards the Dev's not the moderators of this forum, and that's the frustrating part....they don't answer and the negativity increases with no communication in these areas....Maps and boats?  This is a gimme.....How about the campaign question I mentioned above....has the guy been found to help Jason with what he said he was going to do with the campaign or not?  It's not directed towards you BC, not in the least.  But it will get a lock, with no comment evidently and you miss the point altogether.

 

Is this so offensive on my part?  Have I been rude or flippant or confusing on what I've posted?   It appears that  these questions are going to be  squashed before the Dev's respond...at least it certainly appears that way. I don't agree because of these issues that the communication has been great at all.  Quite the opposite.  I shouldn't have to scan thousands of post for this type of information. Maps and boats are not directional plans for the game...they are components and graphical in nature.....Please, give us some credit for asking some relative game design questions. I've been positive about this game....now I'd like some feedback on where it stands.

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Didn't Loft say on the 15th that people buying BoM buy it because BoS is good/right?

 

 

I post something about Loft in essence saying nothing but new maps and planes will be different, and that is why no other updates have been posted.
 

Link, please.

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ShamrockOneFive
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Jagdneun, you're asking questions I have too. I'm wondering about core changes to the gameplay. Improved single player and multiplayer features. I don't think it's unfair to ask about them and certainly you've been respectful too but there is an edge to it as well. That opens the door to some more of the mudslinging types.

 

I also think it's probably too soon to get word from the devs on everything that we want. The reason for that is that changes like those take time and over the course of development you discover stuff that works and that doesn't. The constraints of time, creativity and money always factor in. So if Jason or someone else says definitively that they are adding X new feature and then it comes in at 90% but some stuff has changed. It would be a bad time on the forums. So I'm ok with not knowing the whole plan right now.

 

That said, I'm not sure that's what you're asking for. I think a fair request right now is to get an update with what they are focused on and what they are intending to focus on later. I love content and that gets me excited but an overall update with what each area of the team is doing right now would be just as valuable. The FM guy is doing X and the game designer and mission programmer are working on Y, on track for Z. I get asking for that.

 

Some other folks saying "nothing is happening" and there are "no updates" are dead wrong. Maybe they mean they didn't get the update they wanted. I don't know. Sometimes in development there are things you can't share easily...

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Fair enough SR....but look......what's wrong with saying we've got a guy working on the campaign right now, and we can't promise you anything,except it's being worked on.  I mean.....we don't need anymore "spinzone" it's better just to come clean.  If you haven't done anything...tell us.....If the tools are there to enhance the dynamic aspect of the game for third party input....tell us.  If not, or they are limited tell us that too.  Anything short of that and you're getting into some marketing shell game tactics and we all know that's not the way to do business.  

 

Now, a great many of the critics are already quoting as the gospel...that Loft and company stated that they have no game design changes for this game, that BOM is going under the same design features.  I haven't seen that, and I admit....I haven't done a lot of searching....but if it's not true....why not tell us that and set the record straight.   One reason for so many angles of the quotes is the Russian forum statements..that have been supposedly made and then you have the translations.......  

 

It's already a bad time on the forums now.....and it will continue being an environment of praise enforced comments..... over the next plane diagram or map..... in the face of serious questions that many of us have about some internal changes that will really enhance this game.   Sure I know it takes time....but the Dev's know I would think what is plausible and what isn't.  To say that third party mods have all the responsibility to enhance some internal workings of this game when in fact it might not even be possible is what I'm worried about.  I can wait for change....if it is feasible.  

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For better or worse it's going to be the Pacific Fighters situation. Some folks bought Pacific Fighters but then ended up wanting the whole thing. BoS + BoM is going to be huge. Flying the 110E at Stalingrad? Oh yeah... I'm going to be doing that!

 

People still don't seem to get that engine updates for BoM also mean updates for BoS at the same time. They can't be merged without having the same core. Heck... we're still seeing new content for BoS like the gunboats on the summer version of the Volga map. I was pretty pleased to see that we're not just getting a reskinned map but something with substance too.

 

I encourage folks to be critical but they themselves have to be critical of their statements. BoS has some serious issues not yet resolved but that doesn't make it a terrible game either and at the end of the day I ask folks if they are enjoying themselves or not. If they aren't... maybe this isn't for them? I'm not sure.

 

I think this will be more of a no brainer though.. and I don't think that this will be implemented in quite the same way as the PF/FB thing was... Of course I could be wrong..

 

Since you quote me here and list these comments below me....I take it that this is addressing me in particular, so let me just repeat...maps and boats are great, but what about some of the corrective tweaks that most of us admit need to be addressed...If you read my posts you will see....I'm asking can some of this stuff really be fixed with third party input...are the tools there?  It's a question directed towards the Dev's not the moderators of this forum, and that's the frustrating part....they don't answer and the negativity increases with no communication in these areas....Maps and boats?  This is a gimme.....How about the campaign question I mentioned above....has the guy been found to help Jason with what he said he was going to do with the campaign or not?  It's not directed towards you BC, not in the least.  But it will get a lock, with no comment evidently and you miss the point altogether.

 

Is this so offensive on my part?  Have I been rude or flippant or confusing on what I've posted?   It appears that  these questions are going to be  squashed before the Dev's respond...at least it certainly appears that way. I don't agree because of these issues that the communication has been great at all.  Quite the opposite.  I shouldn't have to scan thousands of post for this type of information. Maps and boats are not directional plans for the game...they are components and graphical in nature.....Please, give us some credit for asking some relative game design questions. I've been positive about this game....now I'd like some feedback on where it stands.

 

There was nothing offensive in your post.. The offensive posts came from others.. and the entire tone of this thread was changed by their posts.. I never said you were rude or flip or any such thing.. I just tried to address your concerns. You did not make the vapor comment.. YOU were not the person who brought this thread along the ugly path that it took..

 

Fair enough SR....but look......what's wrong with saying we've got a guy working on the campaign right now, and we can't promise you anything,except it's being worked on.  I mean.....we don't need anymore "spinzone" it's better just to come clean.  If you haven't done anything...tell us.....If the tools are there to enhance the dynamic aspect of the game for third party input....tell us.  If not, or they are limited tell us that too.  Anything short of that and you're getting into some marketing shell game tactics and we all know that's not the way to do business.  

 

Now, a great many of the critics are already quoting as the gospel...that Loft and company stated that they have no game design changes for this game, that BOM is going under the same design features.  I haven't seen that, and I admit....I haven't done a lot of searching....but if it's not true....why not tell us that and set the record straight.   One reason for so many angles of the quotes is the Russian forum statements..that have been supposedly made and then you have the translations.......  

 

It's already a bad time on the forums now.....and it will continue being an environment of praise enforced comments..... over the next plane diagram or map..... in the face of serious questions that many of us have about some internal changes that will really enhance this game.   Sure I know it takes time....but the Dev's know I would think what is plausible and what isn't.  To say that third party mods have all the responsibility to enhance some internal workings of this game when in fact it might not even be possible is what I'm worried about.  I can wait for change....if it is feasible.  

 

Based on the first part of your post you would think that there has been nothing coming from the team in months. If they have nothing to report .. especially given the environment over the past 8 moths give or take... why post anything? I can't say with certainty but I would be surprised if there were not some kind of update tomorrow given the track record of this team as far as keeping folks informed.. so I just don't get what the big deal is...

 

So someone posts a link to a post on the Russian forum in Russian by the way....  that Loft made.. on another forum .. one that is known for it's hostility towards this sim.. it's developers.. this forum.. and it's moderators...  and what .. the team is supposed to immediately slip into damage control mode? I don't think so J... I suggest that you just sit tight and wait for tomorrow's update... and if there isn't one feel free to ask why...

 

Really? A bad time on the forums... ? These forums...? How's that.... ? I think things are better than they have ever been...  Praise enforced comments? Come on man.... do you really believe that?

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Listen......I really appreciate your guidance and your suggestions for me to sit tight and wait for tomorrows update, but you should have comprehended by now..that was not what this entire topic was about, and since I am the OP I should know.  You have missed the entire point of most of what I said.  I can't help you with that...I recognize passive/aggressive when I see it and I'm wise enough to bow out before I get labeled a trouble maker for bringing up some legitimate concerns.  Everything I posted I firmly believe to be the truth, and why post anything, well because I haven't broken any rules and this is a discussion.  I haven't been negative at all, except making a point that more communication is better in some of the questions I asked. I will leave it at that, but I'll be around...and unless I break any specific rules.....which I don't plan on, I don't  expect to be singled out because I bring up some concerns with the "direction" this game is going.  

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Jason_Williams
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I remember Jason saying that about the campaign weeks ago, so it is a positive point that should be reinforced within the DD section. I can't speak for the antagonist in this forum, but the best way to silence the negativity is to give us some directional plans for this game. I hear about the Loft comments, and I read the Jason comments....

I read Zaks section and he appears to be the PR person...I'm not trying to stir anything up, just get some game information....the more information the better and the less "speculation" .

 

I'm not sue what you are talking about. What campaign? You mean a campaign generator by a third party? We have stated everything we are working on and give hints and pictures regularly. Show me any other sim developer that gives you so much info? It's really bizarre that some of you think we don't share information.

 

The directional plans as you put it are to make BOM. 

 

Jason

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I'm not sue what you are talking about. What campaign? You mean a campaign generator by a third party? We have stated everything we are working on and give hints and pictures regularly. Show me any other sim developer that gives you so much info? It's really bizarre that some of you think we don't share information.

 

The directional plans as you put it are to make BOM. 

 

Jason

 

Maybe you could do a Stream were you tell us about your childhood, fond memories, first love etc. Loft could join in aswell and you could do a Q&A covering the intimate details of your day to day lives. ;)

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 Jason.....this is what I posted as questions...It's plain as day.....I'm not sure why you're not sure what I was talking about.  

 

 

 

Guys...the maps are great, the plane and ship designs awesome.......but come on...how about some information on some of the tweaks going on behind the scenes......is anything being done as far as smoother game play with more AI up in the air and the ability to increase the ground action.  Is anyone working on the campaign design in the area of linked missions/dynamic battles and the like.  Are these areas going to be worked on from the Dev's perspective or if they have to be worked out by third parties, are the tools there so it can in fact be done?  This is not an unusual request, is it?  Many of the complaints coming in from the guys...has to do with what they've gleaned from past information and that appears to be....the game is what it is in it's current form and there are no plans from the Dev's perspective to enhance any of these areas.  Okay...maybe that's true...but can third parties address these areas or not?   I think the game is great in so many areas....and yes...it's a great day...but why is it so difficult to have open discussions about the direction this game is taking......
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LLv24_Zami
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JagdNeun, +1 on those questions!

 

Exactly same things I would like to know more.

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Listen......I really appreciate your guidance and your suggestions for me to sit tight and wait for tomorrows update, but you should have comprehended by now..that was not what this entire topic was about, and since I am the OP I should know.  You have missed the entire point of most of what I said.  I can't help you with that...I recognize passive/aggressive when I see it and I'm wise enough to bow out before I get labeled a trouble maker for bringing up some legitimate concerns.  Everything I posted I firmly believe to be the truth, and why post anything, well because I haven't broken any rules and this is a discussion.  I haven't been negative at all, except making a point that more communication is better in some of the questions I asked. I will leave it at that, but I'll be around...and unless I break any specific rules.....which I don't plan on, I don't  expect to be singled out because I bring up some concerns with the "direction" this game is going.  

 

I have not missed your point at all. I responded to it. As for singling you out.. what are you talking about? You seem to be expecting some kind of retaliation .. for what I do not know... You have done nothing wrong, broken no rules... are not being singled out for anything.. If anything the edited posts in this thread speak volumes to the folks I was referring to..

 

Please check your PMs for further comments.

 

There are directional plans for the sim.. that have been communicated.. they are plain for all to see... Just because they have slowed down a bit for the moment  does not mean that they are not coming.. or that they will not pick up when there is more to tell. We know that there are spring maps coming, We know that BoM is in the works.. We know that gunboats are coming...  We know that another map for this sim is coming... there is no reason to even suggest that anything about this sim is vaporware. This is the thing that gets many folks bent out of shape about "the critics".. if all it was was criticism there would be less of an issue.. but when 90% of what a person posts on any given products forum is negativity about that product one has to ask one's self what is the agenda...

 

There is no reason to think that updates will not be forthcoming.

 

We need to get this thread back into discussion of the topic at hand mode or it will be closed. There is a PM function here for the back and forth stuff. Use it if you must.

 

The latter portion of this post had nothing to do with you Jagd outside of getting the thread back on track with your OP. The first part was simply a response to your question.

 

There was nothing offensive in your post.. The offensive posts came from others.. and the entire tone of this thread was changed by their posts.. I never said you were rude or flip or any such thing.. I just tried to address your concerns. You did not make the vapor comment.. YOU were not the person who brought this thread along the ugly path that it took..

 

Based on the first part of your post you would think that there has been nothing coming from the team in months. If they have nothing to report .. especially given the environment over the past 8 moths give or take... why post anything? I can't say with certainty but I would be surprised if there were not some kind of update tomorrow given the track record of this team as far as keeping folks informed.. so I just don't get what the big deal is...

 

So someone posts a link to a post on the Russian forum in Russian by the way....  that Loft made.. on another forum .. one that is known for it's hostility towards this sim.. it's developers.. this forum.. and it's moderators...  and what .. the team is supposed to immediately slip into damage control mode? I don't think so J... I suggest that you just sit tight and wait for tomorrow's update... and if there isn't one feel free to ask why...

 

Really? A bad time on the forums... ? These forums...? How's that.... ? I think things are better than they have ever been...  Praise enforced comments? Come on man.... do you really believe that?

 

Is this what you are referring to by labeling you a trouble maker... ?  You were not the one who took this thread downhill... I am just trying to understand what you are talking about here...

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Well, since the questions remain unanswered it gives every indication that the core of this game has some serious issues. It's a fun game, I'm not saying it isn't, but if some of these issues I mentioned can in fact not be enhanced then that is a shame, because it would have had so much potential. I'm still looking forward to an "update" and by that I don't mean the plane diagrams and maps etc...but something that will update my game file....on the existing BOS.

 

And thanks Bearcat, I think I'm fine about all that other stuff now. I really just want to stick to my questions.

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Mac_Messer
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Some other folks saying "nothing is happening" and there are "no updates" are dead wrong. Maybe they mean they didn't get the update they wanted. I don't know. Sometimes in development there are things you can't share easily...

Ok, I get it they`re working on it. I haven`t bought the game yet. I keep coming back here every few weeks and...well I don`t know. I mean it`s good they`re working but when is this game going to actually take off? Is a situation where there`s 5-7 DF servers with 50 people in it everything this game is able to do? Just wondering.

Rolling_Thunder
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babi-gif-twins-fighting-for-a-soother.gi

That's freaking hilarious

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