6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Did you just take that screenshot, it is getting dark in game and the mission is 5-10 minutes away from ending so people are leaving the server. Not long ago was 20 on each side.
6./ZG26_Custard Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Yesterday, on the wings server there were 20 on the allies and 9 on the axis. It can be as short as it is long TBH.
Finkeren Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 In a perfect world, all players would work to balance the teams, I know I do, but to reflect historical reality of late 1942, you'd have to have the VVS side be bigger than the LW team (something like 1:1.3 in favor of the Reds) but with all the really good players flying for the Germans.
LAL_Luny Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Its the first server available for VL map, we were there 1 hr before the screenshot (4 frenchmen axis side) the goal was to try and get grips on the map with 3 of us flying a bird we're not flying usually in serious missions.
Neil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Seriously?! No, Half of the german pilot are piloting Junkers 52 and are admiring the beautiful scenery! so it does not count look:
Feathered_IV Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Aye that be nowt. In my day it were twelve to one. Ye tell et young folks these days an they don' believe ye.. 1
taleks Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 So, what's the problem, Feathered? Axies planes are all over sky, shoot anywere and you score easy kill out of blue. 1
Feathered_IV Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 So, what's the problem, Feathered? Axies planes are all over sky, shoot anywere and you score easy kill out of blue. Thats true. I do love the attention, but its the kids I worry about. 1
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 and some times the balance is the other way....too much drama over something rediculous
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 There was a lot of fun on that server last nightSneeking up on three Yaks in Vic formation who didn't see me
sturmkraehe Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Please post some pics of you in a VVS plane sneaking up on 3 109s ...
Rolling_Thunder Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Please post some pics of you in a VVS plane sneaking up on 3 109s ... yeah good one, never going to happen. One of the reasons MP is a wasteland, nobody tries to balance the teams. Edited April 25, 2015 by Rolling_Blunder
TheElf Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Most people fly German because it is easy. BoS is also in the unique position to be the first semi-mature WWII Combat sim in the War Thunder Era. So, many new people to the genre whose only experience with Flight sims is from a mouse and keyboard game (WT), tend to gravitate to the Axis as those planes (FW 190 excluded) are more forgiving. Any German plane properly flown and with teamwork can be made nearly untouchable, the prevailing wisdom says. So those who want to have fun and be untouchable will do so regardless of whether or not there is anyone on the other side to shoot at. It can be at times a self defeating prospect, when so many players choose this path, but I always fly VVS when the numbers are so skewed, both because I can be effective with them when flown intelligently, and with teammates. And there is more to shoot at! 2
SharpeXB Posted April 25, 2015 Author Posted April 25, 2015 Oh being outnumbered can really work in your advantage. I've read many accounts of pilots going into action so vastly outnumbered that their enemies don't even suspect them. There's a particular account from the battle for Kiev where JG54 leaves a rearguard to fly out of an abandoned and surrounded airfield. One of their pilots sets the all time record for kills in a single day (18) just taking off landing and rearming repeatedly all day into 10:1 odds.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 yeah good one, never going to happen. One of the reasons MP is a wasteland, nobody tries to balance the teams. When were you online last? The teams are balanced almost every night in Euro prime time. Red just tends to drop off earlier because the Russians are +3 GMT, it's not our fault there aren't enough US players for you. Maybe you could start a squad or soemthing and encourage more people to fly. Also I find it ridiculous that people think we should disconnect mid flight and jump in to a VVS plane? When Sharpe posted that picture it was near the end of the mission, 20-30 minutes before the balance was just fine.
Rolling_Thunder Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 When were you online last? The teams are balanced almost every night in Euro prime time. Red just tends to drop off earlier because the Russians are +3 GMT, it's not our fault there aren't enough US players for you. Maybe you could start a squad or soemthing and encourage more people to fly. Also I find it ridiculous that people think we should disconnect mid flight and jump in to a VVS plane? When Sharpe posted that picture it was near the end of the mission, 20-30 minutes before the balance was just fine. Last time I was online was last week. I don't fly online anymore and I don't plan to. Not in this game. Also I find it ridiculous that people, as soon as they enter a server, join axis immediately no matter the unbalance. I've switched sides many time due to imbalance. I've also been kicked from axis due to the numerous folk who've entered the server after me joining axis. I very much doubt you have flown a Soviet plane for more than 1/2 hour in total.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Last time I was online was last week. I don't fly online anymore and I don't plan to. Not in this game. Also I find it ridiculous that people, as soon as they enter a server, join axis immediately no matter the unbalance. I've switched sides many time due to imbalance. I've also been kicked from axis due to the numerous folk who've entered the server after me joining axis. I very much doubt you have flown a Soviet plane for more than 1/2 hour in total. Flow Russian planes plenty but as you can see from my tag that's not what I'm in to. The problem with people like you is you moan about something that isn't a problem which makes you look foolish....Here's online right now...you're wrong are you?
Rolling_Thunder Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Flow Russian planes plenty but as you can see from my tag that's not what I'm in to. The problem with people like you is you moan about something that isn't a problem which makes you look foolish....Here's online right now...you're wrong are you? Whatever you say man. If everybody was "into" what you're "into" and were as stubborn as you there would be no game. People like me? What's that supposed to mean? Folk who don't see the things the way you do are moaners? Maybe they do look foolish to you. You look foolish to me with your "tag" and blinkers, but that's just me, maybe some folk see you differently. Post a pic daily of all the servers, all their players and the balance and we'll see who's wrong.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Yes the servers at this time of the day look exactly the same every day, go online and fly if you don't believe me. The numbers drop off from midnight GMT because many of the VVS pilots are russians but at the moment you are more likely to be outnumbered by Yaks on two separate servers. US prime time is where the problem is and there's nothing the Euros can do about it, by midnight or 1am I am not going to be in the mood to fly VVS just to balance the numbers and am more likely to just to want to land and go to bed. So if I fly Yaks right now there is zero point as there is no issue for balance.
Rolling_Thunder Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 ...by midnight or 1am I am not going to be in the mood to fly VVS just to balance the numbers and am more likely to just to want to land and go to bed. Sigh... like I said ...never going to happen.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Sigh like I say man.... moan moan moan but not flying....
Rolling_Thunder Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Sigh like I DO man.... moan moan moan but not flying.... Fixed it for you. You seem to be in the forums quite a lot trying to get folk online. If mp is so great, so balanced, so full of players why do you spend so much time begging folk to get online? Some folk don't enjoy mp. You're like those people that turn up at folks houses with a copy of the watchtower. Quit bugging folk and enjoy what you have. Some folk don't.
6./ZG26_Custard Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 You seem to be in the forums quite a lot trying to get folk online. If mp is so great, so balanced, so full of players why do you spend so much time begging folk to get online? Some folk don't enjoy mp. You're like those people that turn up at folks houses with a copy of the watchtower. Quit bugging folk and enjoy what you have. Some folk don't. in all honestly if some folks started flying this sim instead of moaning about it they may find that would have a lot of fun doing it. I am wishing for a better SP experience but I have started to go online and treat it as a campaign of sorts trying to preserve the aircraft and the pilot. I can really say that an awful lot of fun is to be had flying BoS and with regards to team balance both sides can have equal numbers and both sides can be outnumbered, just like it was in WWII.
Wulf Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 I just don't get it. I'd have thought team balancing was the next logical step after plane balancing.... Maybe people should be more open minded and stuff. Geezz ...
6./ZG26_Custard Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) I just don't get it. I'd have thought team balancing was the next logical step after plane balancing.... Maybe people should be more open minded and stuff. Geezz ... Geezz indeed, because there isn't a combat flight sim out there that has achieved total balance. Whether it's side balancing or aircraft balance. We can all sit here moaning about it, we can fly in it and maybe actually enjoy it, or we can move on to the heady delights of arcade games dressed up to look like sims. Edited April 26, 2015 by OriginalCustard
LAL_Luny Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 (edited) I only fly MP light or heavy bombers, mainly Axis but also VVS depending on who is on TS One thing thats important to keep in mind IMHO is you sometimes have what look as unbalanced servers but if you double check half of the supposed "superior" side is actually flying bombers, which are are more targets than threat.. Raw number of player on a side is not reflecting balance.... Edited April 26, 2015 by UF_Luny 2
Dakpilot Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Do spectators show up in number of people on a server and/or restrict the amount who can join? Cheers Dakpilot
6./ZG26_Emil Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Do spectators show up in number of people on a server and/or restrict the amount who can join? Cheers Dakpilot They aren't in the player list I don't think unless someone just landed/got killed and then they're greyed out but still on that side. They do count as players in the server though so technically 10 spectators would reduce the number of players. Anyway the argument is moot for most people generally up to around 23:00 the servers are either balanced or have more VVS in them. After then the player numbers crater because of the Europeans/Russians and Brits going to bed. I work from 4am in the morning UK time so I see the server states at 10pm US central time and they have very few people in them so for US players it's an issue but last time I went on it the TWB server was the better one for those people and the TWB guys often fly red. I can post more screenshots to show the server player lists from last night and non of them were the way the OP describes.
-TBC-AeroAce Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 I think this whole ballence aspect needs to be redesigned or even droped all together for certain servers. The most annoying thing that happens to me is losing NY slot on a certain side after landing. I will have a good flight and then respawn and bang I have to go to the other side. I think once u have a side ur slot should be saved no matter what even if u are in loby. That way people that aee newly joining can't just wait for somebody to spawn a take thier slot. There also dare I say it need to be no ballence what so ever on some servers so squads can fly together. Maybe not having a limit would make people actually feel quilty to change teams as what fun is it to have 10 v 5 ... 1
6./ZG26_Gielow Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Balanced enemies and numbers ??? There is no such thing in real world. You need to work your tactics to meet every situation and win . I said win not whine, mister !!! BoS is very predictable now about players numbers. Log in early and russians will outnumber axis players. A couple of hours later there will be balanced teams and then after one more server rotation axis will have the advantage. This is really a global game and those numbers are explained because planet's Earth rotation. You know people got to go to bed and work/study next morning Things will change when we get a desert or west Europe map for sure because we will have a lot of americans and british coming. I am enjoying the german superiority on BoS these first two or three years like it was in the real war. Later on the table will be turned. This is what simulation is all about !! We got now the same historic german high morale and allies low morale moment like in WW2 Edited April 27, 2015 by =[Coffin]=Gielow
Brano Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Please post some pics of you in a VVS plane sneaking up on 3 109s ... I can share a pic of one of the FWs I cought in my LaGG with their pants down yesterday.Have to review the recordings though.May take time It was fantastic flying with russian guys yesterday on DED server.With usual chatwar and such (you know,about strange sexual practics one can do to each other... ).Good old times.Only that most of english speakers didnt understand a word
-TBC-AeroAce Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 I don't want ballencing but I do want it to save my bloody slot. I can be forced to change team like 4 times a round
=IRFC=SmokinHole Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 At risk of being a bit of a troll--I haven't touched BoS in about six months and flew online only once--in other games I have played (rof, il2) Germans tended to fly more consistently in squads. Squad play is a hell of a lot more fun than lone wolf play. Thus the tendency for German players to stay in-squad and stay blue. It used to tick me off too. But I discovered red squads and whenever I flew in numbers with these groups, things generally worked out well regardless of the balance. If you avoid furballs and hot zones, balance doesn't matter unless you care about the final mission result and I never did.
sturmkraehe Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 I only fly MP light or heavy bombers, mainly Axis but also VVS depending on who is on TS One thing thats important to keep in mind IMHO is you sometimes have what look as unbalanced servers but if you double check half of the supposed "superior" side is actually flying bombers, which are are more targets than threat.. Raw number of player on a side is not reflecting balance.... Actually on axis side I rarely see a He111 or Ju87. If axis player go for bomb runs they take their fighters with a bomb. On allied side a lot of IL2 and Pe2s... 1
Finkeren Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Actually on axis side I rarely see a He111 or Ju87. If axis player go for bomb runs they take their fighters with a bomb. On allied side a lot of IL2 and Pe2s... Funny thing is, that this pretty well reflects the reality of the air war from 1942 onwards: Luftwaffe was increasingly forced into a defensive position and had to prioritize the Jagdwaffe at the expense of their offensive capabilities.
Brano Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 I am always there for LW wannabe aces to shot me down in my sturm or peshka.They can do it 100 times.I will prevail and not get disharted.Last Sunday on DED server VVS won the map,Thanks to me and others who took the hard way and flew attack planes to eliminate ground targets.Big thanks to all virtual pilots from VVS side who did so! And also thanks to LW fockeriders with bombs attached.You are a very nice target for my LaGG See you all up there in the sky over Velikie Luki.I just wish I could dedicate more time to flying in BoS. And as written before.Stop whining and moaning on forums and start flying.It feels like 2000s again
Brano Posted April 29, 2015 Posted April 29, 2015 Good point Chief.And also who flies what would be nice.It was possible to see in old sturm.
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