[RG]Flanker1985 Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 There are a few things about this game we want to know earlier. 1: This game will get the history part right, right? There will be no disrespectfull things in there, right? I had enough with liberalist thugs who don't know how to respect others like the game maker who made the Company of Heroes 2. And Men of War (who have been telling people that Manchuria was a part of Russia) The best if we show everyone what Nazis did to Russian people in BOS. And how US and UK always trying to impeding the war effort on Russian front. (there lend lease weapon rarely come on time and sometimes there are parts missing. 2: About this game, it is called battle of Stalingrad. Are those airplanes and campaign have to be in stalingrad?? Can we get other campaigns (best if we have a whole WW2 dynamic campagin like in IL-2) and other planes (like La-7/3*B-20) later??
TheGreatKotobuki Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 There are a few things about this game we want to know earlier. 1: This game will get the history part right, right? There will be no disrespectfull things in there, right? I had enough with liberalist thugs who don't know how to respect others like the game maker who made the Company of Heroes 2. And Men of War (who have been telling people that Manchuria was a part of Russia) The best if we show everyone what Nazis did to Russian people in BOS. And how US and UK always trying to impeding the war effort on Russian front. (there lend lease weapon rarely come on time and sometimes there are parts missing. 2: About this game, it is called battle of Stalingrad. Are those airplanes and campaign have to be in stalingrad?? Can we get other campaigns (best if we have a whole WW2 dynamic campagin like in IL-2) and other planes (like La-7/3*B-20) later?? Uh...this game is just about the air war over Stalingrad...not some political leaning game showing the evils in any side.
Rigsby Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) We? Given that the name of the game is called "Battle for Starlingrad," I would have thought it would be based around Stalingrad. Edited October 11, 2013 by Rigsby
[RG]Flanker1985 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Oh, "we" just me and a few friends of mine who can't speak English or Russia. Uh...this game is just about the air war over Stalingrad...not some political leaning game showing the evils in any side. Glad to see there are still some people knows the mean of "impartial". Welcome to the forums. Thanks, mate. Edited October 11, 2013 by HarbingerFlanker1985
Mac_Messer Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 When we say about nazis it is correct to call the reds "soviets" imo. That is if we even want to get to that part.
Finkeren Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Ok, I'm going to try to answer this seriously, even though I don't like the tone in the OP: 1. There will be no political messages in BoS. Even if there are some controversial issues, such as whether to display swastikas on German planes or to allow chute shooting, there really is very little to be up in arms about. The ground war won't be modelled in all it's grissly details, the scope of the sim doesn't include politically sensitive conflicts like the war in the Baltic states for instance etc. Really there is no need to even open this discussion, at least not at this point. 2. Technologically flight sims have come a long way since the old IL2 first came out. Building a realistic flight sim today is incredibly complex and work intensive. At the same time, the community who buys and plays flight sims has shrunk over the years. Thus it's simply not feasible to make a flight sim om the same scope as the old IL2 right off the bat. Instead it's going to be a continous proces of development where the sim gradually evolves and becomes both broader in scope and deeper in detail. That is, if the community continues to provide support to keep the project afloat. 2
FlatSpinMan Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 That's quite an opening post. First, who exactly is 'we', because I'm pretty sure it doesn't include me. What exactly are you asking? I don't find it clear at all. Actually, having read that again I'm calling it a troll post,especially your comments about 'hindering the Soviet front', the depiction of 'what the Nazis did to the Soviet Union' and 'those liberalist thugs who made Company of Heroes'. What are you looking for? This is a combat flight sim. It will focus on getting the FMs, DMs and models right, and it will have some representative missions for aircraft of the time. It's not a documentary, its not a ground war sim, and it is not going to get into questions of the kind you're asking. Additionally, assuming we don't all know what the 'liberalist thugs' did to Company of Heroes (cos many of us haven't played it), would you care to enlighten us? 1
[RG]Flanker1985 Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Ok, I'm going to try to answer this seriously, even though I don't like the tone in the OP: 1. There will be no political messages in BoS. Even if there are some controversial issues, such as whether to display swastikas on German planes or to allow chute shooting, there really is very little to be up in arms about. The ground war won't be modelled in all it's grissly details, the scope of the sim doesn't include politically sensitive conflicts like the war in the Baltic states for instance etc. Really there is no need to even open this discussion, at least not at this point. 2. Technologically flight sims have come a long way since the old IL2 first came out. Building a realistic flight sim today is incredibly complex and work intensive. At the same time, the community who buys and plays flight sims has shrunk over the years. Thus it's simply not feasible to make a flight sim om the same scope as the old IL2 right off the bat. Instead it's going to be a continous proces of development where the sim gradually evolves and becomes both broader in scope and deeper in detail. That is, if the community continues to provide support to keep the project afloat. My tone?? Sorry mate, English is my second languge. And we are just a bit sick and tired of waste a lot of money for a game and then find out it is very offensive. That is in so many case if you live in a western country. And they will tell you that their game will not be offensive and they will have this this and this during pre-order, and after you buy it, you will find it very offensive and they suddenly not available for comments. That is what Company of Heroes 2 did to us last time. We may have been carried away a bit. Sorry. And thanks for answering me my question. Edited October 11, 2013 by HarbingerFlanker1985
BMA_West Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Welcome to the forums. This was sarcastic irony ,dear
6./ZG26_Emil Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 What is offensive? I don't believe there will be gas chambers or gulags in BOS if that helps?
csThor Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Question: What is "correct" history? Given your reference to CoH2 (and the ignorant diatribes I've read from some russian players) I have an idea but I'll keep my thoughts to myself.
Finkeren Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Ok then in answer to your first question: No, you won't find much to be offended by in BoS. I can pretty much guarantee that. An honest word of advice: You may want to hold back on the use of phrases like "I had enough with liberalist thugs" and "We are just a bit sick and tired of waste a lot of money for a game and then find out it is very offensive" in your vey first posts on the forum. It won't get you very far. I generally don't think, that the USSR, and especially its people get their due credit for winning the war, so I might even agree with some of your points (though not with the way you present them), however: BoS is a flight sim first and foremost and politically loaded discussions of this kind doesn't really belong on this forum. 1
Bearcat Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 There are a few things about this game we want to know earlier. 1: This game will get the history part right, right? There will be no disrespectfull things in there, right? I had enough with liberalist thugs who don't know how to respect others like the game maker who made the Company of Heroes 2. And Men of War (who have been telling people that Manchuria was a part of Russia) The best if we show everyone what Nazis did to Russian people in BOS. And how US and UK always trying to impeding the war effort on Russian front. (there lend lease weapon rarely come on time and sometimes there are parts missing. 2: About this game, it is called battle of Stalingrad. Are those airplanes and campaign have to be in stalingrad?? Can we get other campaigns (best if we have a whole WW2 dynamic campagin like in IL-2) and other planes (like La-7/3*B-20) later?? Nahhhhh I don't think so. Nipping this in the bud. You have the sim.. once we canget our hands on it.. then give it a go.. I hope you enjoy it as much as I hope to. 2
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