High hopes for what 777 can do for summer world.

[Uriah]

Intrigued by the discussion of the coming summer map and mentions of RoF with its Channel Map I decided to re-install RoF and bought the Channel map.

I took off to look at Dover just to see what it looked like compared to other sims, combat and not. War Thunder has the best looking city of Dover. Cliffs of Dover is OK but not near as good looking as WT. I actually like RoF but what stood out there was the harbor itself. That was super. AS for RoF in general the water and trees looked very good. So with what 777 was able to do with BoS in winter I have high hopes for the summer maps.

[ShamrockOneFive]

I don't have RoF but I'd love to see what some of these shots look like. Got any choice screen shots from flying above the harbour?

 

I have no doubt that they will create some amazing looking landscapes!

Edited April 20, 2015 by ShamrockOneFive

[-TBC-AeroAce]

We demand screenies!!!!

[Habu]

I don't have RoF but I'd love to see what some of these shots look like. Got any choice screen shots from flying above the harbour?

 

I have no doubt that they will create some amazing looking landscapes!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Cool

[ShamrockOneFive]

Awesome! Looks great! Yeah I'm looking forward to some amazing visuals flying down the Volga river in summer and autumn!

[DD_Arthur]

Dover Castle in RoF

 

Dover Castle in CoD

[Dakpilot]

Is that vanilla CLoD or latest TF patch?

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[DD_Arthur]

That was vanilla CoD, just after the release of the last official patch.

[javelina]

Looks fantastic!

[6./ZG26_Custard]

If the Summer maps are as good as ROF ( and I think they will be better) Then we are in for a real treat

[Dakpilot]

When I compare the Winter maps from BoS to those from RoF it seems to me that some big improvements have been made, here's hoping a similar leap will also be made with summer and autumn textures, based on the evidence from BoS I hope we will be in for a treat

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[AbortedMan]

Cheers Dakpilot

[mb339pan]

RoF vanilla

 

 

RoF offline mode (mod on)

 

 

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

Wow... those shots are just so atmospheric. Really good looking! I think we're in for a treat when we get some more colours... the winter scenery in BoS already blew me away. And having suffered through two extremely snowy and cold winters I can say that they got the details really down for the whole landscape. So I can't wait to see what they have when the summer and autumn seasonal maps are finished!

[Uriah]

I don't know if 777 can do it for summer as they have for winter but one way or the other one of the big things that I really appreciate in BoS is that cities and towns really look like cities and towns. Much more than any thing else out there. Even in WT the city of Dover looks nice but it does not look like a real city. It looks more like a child putting down a bunch of Monopoly hotels and houses. Compare that with Stalingrad or Kalach. I have no idea what they really looked like in 1942 but in BoS it does look convincing. And that is one thing among many that makes this sim so enjoyable.

[FuriousMeow]

I too llok fwd for the upcoming Summer maps, but my expectations are limited by the 32 bit that this sim still IS !

 

But... 32bit vs 64bit isn't going to do much more. 32bit vs 64bit is 90% memory accessibility and capability, and that is a very simplistic explanation of it. "I HAS MOAR MEMORY, USE IT!" is the cry of the ignorant - unless the software is hitting the limit and needs more access, then it isn't necessary to program for it. That's it.

[Rolling_Thunder]

Dover Castle in RoF

 

Dover Castle in CoD

Clod has the best sea/ocean of any sim I've ever seen. It looks like the channel. The worst...DCS

[6./ZG26_Custard]

^{Clod's landscapes can indeed look lovely but the one thing I hate is the ability to fly through trees, and believe me people do it an awful lot. If you try that on RoF or BoS you would end up wrapped around one.}

[Uriah]

WT pics of Dover (point is I hope BOS can look nearly as real)

Getting there

 

 

CASTLE

note the real thing does not have a cliff from the castle down to the city, just a steep hill.

and

Harbor from inland

Harbor from Sea

[Uriah]

Modern Dover from Google

Old postcard WWI era

[Feathered_IV]

Those WT screenshots are great. What a shame it comes bundled with such arcade gameplay.

[JG4_Sputnik]

RoF looks so Playmobil... Plastic.

I hope BOM isn't gonna look as plastic as RoF does. Its one of the biggest immersion breaker for me.

I'm not sure if it's the DN Engine that renders everything so unaturaly - if not then I hope that the Designers do some real life research for the BOM map. No blue rivers and poison green trees anymore please.

[Dakpilot]

[Never really had an issue with poison green trees or blue rivers with RoF this is current vanilla Std,. Map

 

Really quick screen grab with mods off mode selected, with Mod textures/bump mapping and SweetFX/FlightFX enabled a more personal setting is easily available

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[cellinsky]

Those WT screenshots are great. What a shame it comes bundled with such arcade gameplay.

+1

 

The maps are among the best when it comes to catch the mood of a given landscape: Khalkin Gol looks like the real thing or Sicilly gives me that mediterran flair I am used to.The colors and hue of the objects blend very well with the ground textures. Kind of ORBX for combatsims.  This style of maps are not depent of a particular engine or direct-x version, its mostly by design. When looking at the wintermaps in BOS, Im sure they will achieve the same level of immersion, as they are done very well IMHO.

[JG4_Sputnik]

This is a nice looking screenshot.
As a RoF player myself though, I know that the game  rarely looks like this in motion.
Colors look better than in the above screenshots over Dover though, still it has this certain plastic look to it imho. RoF always reminds me of the toy train terrains in old mens basements...

[Uriah]

still it has this certain plastic look to it imho. RoF always reminds me of the toy train terrains in old mens basements...

Nailed it. Still better than IL-2 1946.

 

The predecessor to WT was a game named Wings of Prey. Same look as WT but you could tell as part of the map they made they took satellite images. If you looked closely at the roads you could see images of cars and trucks.

[LizLemon]

This is a nice looking screenshot.

As a RoF player myself though, I know that the game rarely looks like this in motion.

Colors look better than in the above screenshots over Dover though, still it has this certain plastic look to it imho. RoF always reminds me of the toy train terrains in old mens basements...

I think some of the problems have to do with the shaders they have chosen (both bos and rof)

 

For example you can see specular bloom on surfaces that has a color tinge to it. However specular highlights should always be pure white, except in cases of colored metals like gold.

 

Another issue is the hdr which, especially in rof, does some odd things to the colors too.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

[Never really had an issue with poison green trees or blue rivers with RoF this is current vanilla Std,. Map

rof.jpg

 

Really quick screen grab with mods off mode selected, with Mod textures/bump mapping and SweetFX/FlightFX enabled a more personal setting is easily available

 

Cheers Dakpilot

My goodness that is good lookin. Our villages and small towns are nice but now I do wish we had a Moscow proper map to look forward to.

[ShamrockOneFive]

RoF looks so Playmobil... Plastic.

I hope BOM isn't gonna look as plastic as RoF does. Its one of the biggest immersion breaker for me.

I'm not sure if it's the DN Engine that renders everything so unaturaly - if not then I hope that the Designers do some real life research for the BOM map. No blue rivers and poison green trees anymore please.

The look has matured quite a bit for BoS so I would assume that BoM will use a similar art style. The blue skies in Stalingrad are more subdued than those from Rise of Flight. Still... It's a very good looking sim!

[[TWB]otavio]

Yeah, i really have high hopes for the summer maps...

 

 

[6./ZG26_Custard]

In less time than it took you to produce your" Snow globe" and the minimum of tinkering you can get some fabulous results.

 

 

I think it's going to be a great summer

[[TWB]otavio]

In less time than it took you to produce your" Snow globe" and the minimum of tinkering you can get some fabulous results.

 

 

I think it's going to be a great summer

 

You're either blind or in denial if you can't see the horrendous LoD bubble there.

[No601_Swallow]

I must be in denial. I can see an LoD bubble in the first picture, but compared to every other flightsim I've ever played, it seems minimal. Not 'horrendous' - not in a thousand years.

 

Gotta get my eyesight tested - to me the game looks absolutely gorgeous. 

[6./ZG26_Custard]

You're either blind or in denial if you can't see the horrendous LoD bubble there.

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much!"

[6./ZG26_Emil]

I must be in denial. I can see an LoD bubble in the first picture, but compared to every other flightsim I've ever played, it seems minimal. Not 'horrendous' - not in a thousand years.

 

Gotta get my eyesight tested - to me the game looks absolutely gorgeous. 

 

Yeh I really like how BOS looks as well, there are things they should work on plus changes that will make little effort such as giving us our graphics settings back but as a package BOS is a good sim.

 

Oh and you can't fly through trees

[Uriah]

I must be blind.

[Feathered_IV]

 

You're either blind or in denial if you can't see the horrendous LoD bubble there.

You seem to be having a hysterical overreaction.

[Finkeren]

The term 'horrendous' clearly has a different meaning from what I'm used to...

[[TWB]otavio]

You people clearly have low standards. I won't ever stop complaining about stuff that was taken from us since it directly affects terrain visibility and navigation.