EDTracker anybody?

[56RAF_Roblex]

I have everything unticked apart from 'Enable' and have not seen any bad side-effects.  Did you disable the others for any reason or did you just decide that the only one you actually wanted was the one that makes you lean out when you check your 6 (I am assuming that is what 'effect by yaw' controls) and tciked the others just in case they caused issues?   

 

I have also got 'Neck displacement' set to 30cm on the assumption that gives a larger 'Lean' when checking your 6.  Obviously the game itself stops you doing that when flying or when the canopy is closed but when parked with the canopy open my six view is like undoing my straps, turning by body 90 degrees and sticking my head out 30cm :-)

 

I am mostly happy with my settings but one thing I am unsure of is whether there is a recommended order in which to start everything up eg:-

 

Should I start EDTracker before I start Opentrack or does it not matter as long as both are running before I go into the game?

I believe EDTracker resets the gyro when first started so do I need to keep the box level & stationary when I open EDTracker?   Just Stationary?  I have not made any special efforts to do that yet and not seen any issues.

If I find the view has moved off centre sometimes resetting EDTracker still leaves it looking a little off.  Is there something that can go wrong with Opentrack that needs resetting?   There does not seem to be a hotkey for that. There is an option to recenter on startup but I am not 100% sure what that is doing.

Edited December 10, 2017 by 56RAF_Roblex

[BOO]

You dont need to start edtracker sofware at all unless you are experienceing a lot of drift (usually resultant from having your device away from the usual area)and you need to force a re-bias All the smoothing settings can be applied in Opentrack alone (accella filter settings).

 

In opentrack you can bind a hot key to re-center (Options /Global shortcuts/re-center) this is a very useful quick reset for when you start in game. 

 

the recentre is dependent upon where your head is when you press it. As such it can work a little like TIR in terms of offsetting (for instance in the 109 gunsight for Clod)

 

 

Cheers

 

BOO

[[Vietnam]Hoang_Anh]

I have everything unticked apart from 'Enable' and have not seen any bad side-effects.  Did you disable the others for any reason or did you just decide that the only one you actually wanted was the one that makes you lean out when you check your 6 (I am assuming that is what 'effect by yaw' controls) and tciked the others just in case they caused issues?   

 

I have also got 'Neck displacement' set to 30cm on the assumption that gives a larger 'Lean' when checking your 6.  Obviously the game itself stops you doing that when flying or when the canopy is closed but when parked with the canopy open my six view is like undoing my straps, turning by body 90 degrees and sticking my head out 30cm :-)

 

I am mostly happy with my settings but one thing I am unsure of is whether there is a recommended order in which to start everything up eg:-

 

Should I start EDTracker before I start Opentrack or does it not matter as long as both are running before I go into the game?

I believe EDTracker resets the gyro when first started so do I need to keep the box level & stationary when I open EDTracker?   Just Stationary?  I have not made any special efforts to do that yet and not seen any issues.

If I find the view has moved off centre sometimes resetting EDTracker still leaves it looking a little off.  Is there something that can go wrong with Opentrack that needs resetting?   There does not seem to be a hotkey for that. There is an option to recenter on startup but I am not 100% sure what that is doing.

 

I tried to tick/untick each option respectively or two related options, and yes, check six is what I need, didn't notice significant difference so I disabled the others.

p/s: my bad, I forgot about the "30cm", that picture was taken before I edited it

 

Edited December 11, 2017 by =VPAF=tolai_nd

[MoToad]

Got the Edtracker Pro wireless a couple of days ago. Threw it on DCS A10C and after a bit of fiddling now have it running smooth and flawlessly. No open track needed. Tonight I went into BOS and tried setting it up there. I found horizontal and vertical head movement with x-y axis and set the horizontal. Bit of adjusting and it was fine. When I went to do the vertical I bobbed my head a little too vigorously and the headphones fell off. This screwed the setting and I had to shut down the game, go out the EDtracker setup and reset my head. When I went back into BOS the vert setting just would not take. No matter what I did. Can't figure it out. This is without open track and I thought I was not going to need it. But I guess I do?

[TWC_Ace]

I have to say that after it was fixed I was still a bit unhappy because I did not like the way the views responded etc in BoX./ I thought I had wasted my money but a quick recalibration and 20 minutes playing with the Opentrack settings and I could not be happier.  It is much better than TrackIr now; for me at least.  I am not advising anyone to give up on TrackIr if it works OK for you but in my case it was a little unreliable sometimes. Not just the usual problem with daylight but also it was not always able to keep  up with me looking up and over my shoulder suddenly when an enemy passed after a head on and climbed or when I needed to keep an eye on an enemy going the opposite way below as I split -S to dive after him.  Keeping eyes on an enemy during violent rolling scissors etc. was often tricky too.    Yes it only has 3 DoF but I never used head-roll or 'lean forwards' in TiR and mapping Head Roll to the X axis (ie moving your head sideways) works surprisingly well.   I was wondering how my normal automatic leaning movement to look round the canopy frame or joystick was still working when I knew EDTracker does not detect that  then realised it was because in TrackIr when I leaned sideways I was tilting my head naturally and now EDtracker was using that instead.  I did not even have to learn any new techniques :-)   It also moves your head sideways automatically when you look behind as you would in real life.  You can set it to let you hang out a good unnatural 30cm while taxiing so even an La-5 can have a perfect 6 view though luckily, like with TrackIr or snap views,  the game itself stops anyone doing that in flight to get an unfair advantage.

 

Hi, due to health issues I made a long pause form simming so I sold my TiR 5. As I bought a new PC Im kinda tight on budget now so EDtracker pro would be a nice cheapper option for head tracking. I found a few vids where its clear it uses pseudo 6DOF (with help of opentrack software) which looks good enough. Did you have any smoothness or jittering issues with Edtracker or it is just like TiR 5 in that regard?

thanks in advance

Edited January 26, 2018 by blackram

[56RAF_Roblex]

It is very smooth, especially when swivelling your head around violently as you do when in a horizontal scissors or doing a split-S while keeping you eyes locked on the target.   I found that my TrackIR  had problems with that, the view might suddenly freeze for a fraction of a second then jump which caused me to lose sight of the enemy.      As I said before,  some people may not get that problem with their TrackIr.  I have seen many videos where they have no trouble staying 'padlocked' on the target during violent maneuvers and I assume they are using TrackIr but something about how and where my TrackIr was set up caused problems for me in those situations. Otherwise it was fine.   

 

Despite what I said in my first post,  I do still sometimes have to make a conscious decision to roll my head to slide my view sideways (eg to look around the gunsight).  I don't have any problems with the vertical movement as I have found a nice setting to lower my viewpoint when I look down into the cockpit and it has no unwelcome side effects.  It even works well with the dreaded I-16 where you have to lower your head quite far to see the upper instruments.  Tilting my head down about 20 degrees causes the viewpoint to lower about 6 inches though I have a large 'deadspot' built in so it does not rise up and down during normal head movements which might be annoying. I have to make a deliberate movement to lower the view.  There is a similar dead spot set for the horizontal slide so my eyes remain aligned on the gunsight during small head movements and only move sideways or vertically when I deliberately make a large movement.

 

What I do find is that while I have now done away with glitches caused by sunlight, I do still sometimes get glitches caused by my Mobile/Cell phone so I now switch that off when flying.

[TWC_Ace]

Roblex, your info is very welcome and informative, thank you. Can you please send me a profile for BOS i can load and try (probably will modify a bit)?

Edited January 28, 2018 by blackram

[56RAF_Roblex]

If you read this thread,  I posted my Opentrack settings as that is where the config is actually done.  "On mine, EDTracker itself is set to 1:00 on Yaw, Pitch & Roll with 0 smoothing & linear response.  It is Opentrack where the curves are set.  "

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/33672-edtracker-pro-settings-please/

[blitze]

Just got Open Track running with a 3 poiint IR setup which I attach to my head phones.  Wow, after many years of busting it with joystick hat view and then a short but ffrustrating run with FaceTrack, Open Track with IR is great.

 

Smooth movement.  One can easily make their own with a PS3 Eye Camera or buy one for a little more pre made from either Asia or UK.  ED Tracker is just a gyro system of which I was looking at but I don't thing pseudo 6DOF is quite the same as proper as IR tracking can give.

 

Actually, newer HMD ffor VR will have inside/out tracking which is akin to IR tracking with LED's embedded in the headset.  Anyway, this will keep me happy till my HMD arrives.  Now I think I can engage people online in dog fights without loosing contact with them visually all the time.  Also much easier for me to track ground targets even on my little laptop LOL.

[TWC_Ace]

Just got Open Track running with a 3 poiint IR setup which I attach to my head phones.  Wow, after many years of busting it with joystick hat view and then a short but ffrustrating run with FaceTrack, Open Track with IR is great.

 

Smooth movement.  One can easily make their own with a PS3 Eye Camera or buy one for a little more pre made from either Asia or UK.  ED Tracker is just a gyro system of which I was looking at but I don't thing pseudo 6DOF is quite the same as proper as IR tracking can give.

 

Actually, newer HMD ffor VR will have inside/out tracking which is akin to IR tracking with LED's embedded in the headset.  Anyway, this will keep me happy till my HMD arrives.  Now I think I can engage people online in dog fights without loosing contact with them visually all the time.  Also much easier for me to track ground targets even on my little laptop LOL.

Well I had TiR5 only so I cant comment about other cheaper IR solutions nor EDtracker as "gyro-magnet" solution....However what I could find EDTracker is probably even superior than camera tracker in regard to pure performance (motion) since it doesnt "look" for IR camera, it uses pure gyro and magnets, doesnt depends on backlight and doesnt use CPU. Sometimes  my TiR would just block or it would go wild (all settings applied) If I do a "move too far". Not to mention it cant be used properly in light rooms (filters arent helping much). Only downside of EDTracker is that it cant use real 6DOF but pseudo 6DOF is good enough for looking at instruments, checking 6 or leainig left or right. You can set EDTracker to lean right and left (also when checking 6) when you actually roll your head. Thats awesome and natural. Also you can duck on instrument with slight tilt forward of your head. All that for 3rd of a TiR price. hmmm 

As a casual simmer now I will definitely buy EDTracker pro and I will make a comparison with TiR5. TBH I didnt even use 6DOF in TiR (ROF being an exception).

Edited January 29, 2018 by blackram

[blitze]

I find 5DOF to be useful but moving the height of me head in relation to the seat can be annoying in a Track envuronment when going forward to view through the gun sight )).

 

Head sideways and forward and aft are quite useful to me as well as Yaw,, Tilt and roll but I limit it to 45deg or less unless someone has snapped my neck.  I haven't used TrackIR and feel you may as well fork out extra and go VR for what they charge but the Open Track solutions are very good and can be very reasonable cost wise.

[SE.VH_Boemundo]

On 12/10/2016 at 10:19 AM, Sokol1 said:

Without complicate: in Bo'X you can assign the camera "pan" movement (e.g. X axis) in the same axis (or key/button) used for "lean", 

so every time you look back the POV will move for side (right or left), as if the virtual pilot has a neck and not a fixed

head turning in absolute vertical axis. Example with joy HAT, set the same in EDTracker:

 

http://s23.postimg.org/603mu6ayj/POV_translation.jpg

 

 

Would be usefull to assign forward back movements to buttons but when opentrack is on buttons not work. How to solve?