Still having some CTD and performance related issues

[ShamrockOneFive]

I've been tweaking my setup trying to improve performance and eliminate any crash to desktop problems and I'm just going toss this out here and see what people think.

 

It seems to be that my crashes are, in part, related to poor performance. What will happen is I'll get an IL-2 mission where far too many AI objects get thrown at my system at once (2 random battles of 1-2 dozen aircraft), plus the ground objects, plus the mission objects and then the game really slows down. Frame rate is unsteady but ok but the game is playing in slow motion.

 

It can crash to desktop right on that mission or it'll let me play another mission like that and be ok and then I get a lighter mission and then it crashes. Windows says there is a problem that has been encountered and the game crashes out immediately. It gets me thinking that some sort of memory leak or some sort of background process is not working the way its supposed to and eventually it gets to the point where it does something its not supposed to and the whole thing stops.

 

It's weird because some nights I can play a bunch and nothing happens and then another time and I get a bunch of CTDs. It seems to be centered around the heavier missions in the campaign. Particularly ground attack missions.

 

I'd love to solve it. And as much as I'd like to upgrade right now I'm going to hold out for the Intel Skylake processors at the end of the year and see how prices are on stuff then. In the meantime my four year old Core i7 870 is no slouch and its got 12GB of RAM and a GTX 570 to work with. I may upgrade to the GTX 960 in the summer but I suspect its not graphics that are the problem (I've got them turned down to the lower settings just to see how well it works there).

Edited April 4, 2015 by ShamrockOneFive

[SCG_Neun]

I seem to notice more problems after having installed Lupson's SMB which required a java update for me.  If I open up that utility and load a mission that I've created...I have problems, but I can fly Veterans missions which have more computing activity without any problems.  Let me know if you get yours worked out.  Every now and then....I will have a CTD towards the end of a campaign mission....and usually after I've kicked butt......with no results to show for it.  

[TP_Merlin]

Wondered about a memory leak to Shamrock, I re-installed and get less CTD but they are still there. Its been two weeks waiting on a reply from support re: CTD from my earlier post.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Maybe under certain circumstances in the campaign missions (for example) there is a memory leak or something similarly performance robbing that eventually causes a CTD. It's pretty instant when it does. Not a slow hang and then eventually it crashes... nope its pretty much instant.

 

I've got my FPS up a fair bit but sometimes when there's a ton of aircraft around I'm playing in slow motion and usually there is a crash to follow. Sometimes not immediately either.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Ok... this time it was on a mission with minimal AI and no performance problems in the missions before. Seems more random now...

[sop]

Any other games crashing? , check cpu temps you might need to reapply some thermal paste.

Edited April 6, 2015 by sop

[ShamrockOneFive]

The one thing I haven't done is check the actual temperatures. I'll have to watch those. I did watch PSU voltage fluctuations and I did a GPU temperature burn in with FurMark but nothing unusual happened there.

 

That said, this is an application crash and not a system crash. It crashes to desktop... its not a blue screen or a system hang where I need to restart. I can play Battlefield 4 (the next most demanding application on my system) for 2+ hours with no issues. Same goes for Civ V, Diablo III, StarCraft II... etc. I realize most of those don't stress the system like IL-2 BoS will but data points for stability seem to suggest that by and large the system is ok.

 

With IL-2 BoS it seems to be almost a random amount of time from 10 minutes in to 45 minutes in but these days it seems almost certain to crash. The one thing I haven't done is a wipe of the game and a re-install. Any suggestions before I do that? I'll obviously want to back up my key bindings but how completely should I wipe this... hunt down the registry entries?

[sop]

Even if the cpu is overheating it dosent mean you will blue screen automatically, if other games working as you said, i would just do a blank reinstall maybe use  cc cleaner just to make sure, I woulndt worry about the reg entries.

[Urra]

Have seen what you have on my computers in two instances. One is over clocking my processor a little bit too much. Slow it down 100mhz at a time, or two- and this really drove me crazy...the ram was slightly incompatible with my motherboard, as soon as I switched out the ram it went away. I always build my own and never know what I'm going to get until I flip the switch, but that makes it a little more exciting.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Even if the cpu is overheating it dosent mean you will blue screen automatically, if other games working as you said, i would just do a blank reinstall maybe use  cc cleaner just to make sure, I woulndt worry about the reg entries.

 

True. It does seem less likely in light of the stability of other applications.

 

I did a stress test with a HW monitor running today and no crashes at all. So... Who knows. Going to do some voltage and temp checking and report back.

 

I might clean it out and do a fresh install.

 

 

Have seen what you have on my computers in two instances. One is over clocking my processor a little bit too much. Slow it down 100mhz at a time, or two- and this really drove me crazy...the ram was slightly incompatible with my motherboard, as soon as I switched out the ram it went away. I always build my own and never know what I'm going to get until I flip the switch, but that makes it a little more exciting.

Interesting. I hadn't considered that and given the overhead that the Core i7 should have I wouldn't expect it but I'll watch the individual core temperatures too. Yep, this is my own custom build. I always build my own PCs as then I know exactly what I'm getting into snd can do a lot of the work myself. But there is a bit of a moment when you flip the switch for the first time

[TP_Merlin]

I am certain I have no overheat issues impacting on my CTD's but thanks for pointing that out. One of my Tangmere friends suggested turning off overclock on the graphics card (if you have it overclocked) as it worked for him.  I will try that but for me, as it does not cause any issue with the infamous Cliffs of Dover, I cannot see why it should be a problem here.

Edited April 8, 2015 by TP_Merlin

[ShamrockOneFive]

Not sure if any of this is useful.

 

 

 

Faulting application name: Il-2.exe, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x5507eeb6
Faulting module name: RSE.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x5507ed5c
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0001155f
Faulting process id: 0x1298
Faulting application start time: 0x01d077e9e8347b13
Faulting application path: E:\Program Files (x86)\1C Game Studios\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\bin\game\Il-2.exe
Faulting module path: E:\Program Files (x86)\1C Game Studios\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\bin\game\RSE.dll
Report Id: 0fd22f73-e3df-11e4-a5ac-e0cb4ef8220b

 

And...

 

 

 

Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Il-2.exe
P2: 1.0.0.1
P3: 5507eeb6
P4: RSE.dll
P5: 0.0.0.0
P6: 5507ed5c
P7: c0000005
P8: 0001155f
P9:
P10:

 

From Windows Event Viewer.

 

Still have to schedule some time to do a reinstall.

[AvengerSeawolf]

 I recon something must be going wrong with your RAM memory and or GPU memory or Drivers . 9/10 times  to the PC's I have experienced, but I am no expert.

Check this out , perhaps it helps

 

 

P.S. you can check out one my one the errors  on ggogle and see with what it come sup, eventually something will be related to your problem and help you fix it.

Edited April 16, 2015 by AvengerSeawolf

[ShamrockOneFive]

Well that narrows it down

 

Actually I'm following a couple of leads that suggest that maybe I'm having an issue with my RAM. I have 2x2gb and 2x4gb pairs in there. Matched... all made by Mushkin, all Blackline. Never had a problem before but now I've seen a memory error in Battlefield 4 that I haven't seen before. So... I'm going to follow that up.

[TP_Merlin]

since this last update I have had the game crash four times in multiplayer. just fired off a reminder for 'support' to look at my ticket again.I have changed memory since it first started crashing. Do any of you have an overclocked system that might cause these crashes ?

[TP_Jacko]

Merlin as a basic check what are your settings in the launcher "settings tab" I saw a comment somewhere a while ago. Do you have full screen ticked and the native resolution for you monitor. The suggestion was to have full screen unchecked.

 

No idea if it helps but i feel the pain last night was frustrating for you.

 

Cheers

Jacko

[Dave]

I do not overclock any components of my system and have never had a CTD, BSOD or reboot since I started playing BoS in 2013. Since the last update I have had at least 10 crashes in both multiplayer and single player. A few crashes to desktop. Two blank screens with sound but no ability to even CTRL-ALT-DEL. One BSOD and a stack of spontaneous reboots.

[Dave]

Constant CTDs and freezes now. Game is effectively unplayable when it takes half an hour to climb and transit to position and just as you line up for a shot - BOOM CTD. Please figure out the cause asap as I'm not not interested in playing when I can't go 30 minutes without a game crash.