Logitech G 940 Flight System

[frenchfly]

Hi guys, since I did these 2 easy fixes to my g940 it has been smooth sailing. No wire splicing needed.

 

for rotaries on throttle

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3007420/4.html

 

for pedals

http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=350&t=25707

 

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[Pudfark]

@frenchfly

 

Many Thanks for taking the time to share....

I'll dive into mine tonight....fingers crossed, that it will bring me some relief.

[Allons]

Hi all, after testing my controls (didnt test toe brakes yet) yesterday all axes worked and buttons worked fine. I will build up my new profile using the mode 1,2,3 switch mode 1 fighter, mode 2 Stuka, mode 3 level bombing. Would be fine if we could swap profiles maybe.

 

Happy f(l)ighting, Allons!

[OBT-Psycho]

I have a kinda similor profile for Clod at the moment, Except that is Take off/landing on mode 1, Fighter and Assault on mode 2 and level bombing on mode 3.

 

I will try to stick to this scheme, also to my configuration at the moment as I am quite happy with it. I will have some modification for some entries, as some are not in BOS and some are not in COD, but I will let you guyz have a look.

 

Right now I am more into trying the beast as I did'nt have time yesterday night, but weekend will bring some "setup da hotaz" time

[Allons]

Watch out guys, the ailerons could be mapped reverse, testing in the control settings works wrong so you wont realize its reversed. Check ingame with F2 view before spending the whole evening trying to take off with inverted ailerons..

 

I noticed no FF effect, did somebody else?

[1./JG42Nephris]

I notice here and there an answer, when catching the plane at 450+ km/h.

However FFB is far off what is in RoF.

[OBT-Psycho]

no problems with the FFB, works really well for me, even better than anything I flew before

[Alfred_Tupper]

Hmmm can't find a way to vary FFB as per RoF

 

a couple of glitches such as throttle only giving 50% of the game throttle but these seem to have gone when I reloaded the game...

[VR-DriftaholiC]

Seems like FFB is only using "Dampening Effect" for me.  Faster I go the stiffer the controls get, it's nice to feel them get light before a stall. However I don't notice any spring forces the ones that tend to trim center of the stick forces and right the plane when inverted.

Edited November 20, 2013 by driftaholic

[OBT-Psycho]

to activate FFB, you have to go on "setting" then "control" and click on the tile that says "device" or something like that. you wil find all you need to set it up

[Alfred_Tupper]

to activate FFB, you have to go on "setting" then "control" and click on the tile that says "device" or something like that. you wil find all you need to set it up

 

ah knew I had seen it when I first loaded up - thanks!

[SeaW0lf]

to activate FFB, you have to go on "setting" then "control" and click on the tile that says "device" or something like that. you wil find all you need to set it up

 

Great, I was not finding it, but mine does not have shaking when taxiing, although it shakes near the stall. I posted on the bugs reports. 

[OBT-Psycho]

neither do I. I don't know if it on purpose or not. Actually you are not supposed to, as FFB is meant to reflect forces on control surfaces. But you know, there stand the line between realitic FFB and sensitive FFB. In one you will try to represent only forces on movable surfaces of the plane, in the other you will try to reflect almost everything possible through this supplementary sense to improve sensations of the virtual pilot. I'm good with both

[SeaW0lf]

neither do I. I don't know if it on purpose or not. Actually you are not supposed to, as FFB is meant to reflect forces on control surfaces. But you know, there stand the line between realitic FFB and sensitive FFB. In one you will try to represent only forces on movable surfaces of the plane, in the other you will try to reflect almost everything possible through this supplementary sense to improve sensations of the virtual pilot. I'm good with both

 

The question is, if they are not going to model taxiing shake, are we going to have guns' shake? But I think it is a bug, because ROF has it and BoS is basically the same game a couple decades later in time. But I think it is immersive, and with the good modeling that they did with taxiing, would be nice to feel the shake 

[frenchfly]

Maybe there's no shake on taxi because it's a paved runway and not grass like ROF. I personally like the forces the way they are, as long as they have a little gun shake when implemented. Remember these planes are heavy and more stable then a light bi-plane bouncing on uneven grass. Keep in mind that I'm only venturing an educated guess since I'm not a real pilot.

Edited November 25, 2013 by frenchfly

[radio]

I think there is no FFB today, hope it will come later.!

With the throttle it will be a game mistake. 

[JaMz]

Can't map it in game, you must do the very long and arduous task of setting the functions in the profiler, so you need to effectively set all in game controls to a keystroke or key combinations and make a note of them and then set up the profiler to assign those keystrokes/combinations in the game profile.

 

When used to full effect the profiler is quite a usefull bit of kit, even the axis can be set up to have ranged functions.

 

Hey mate,

 

Only just seen this.. Ok so what am I doing wrong because I can never seem to get this to work..

 

So this is what I have tried:

 

In the Logitech profiler I added a keystroke and even tried a command ( Num Lock Key)  to the Shift button on my joystick. I then launched game through the profiler via the Launcher.exe in this case CoD. I then mapped 'pause' in game to the button Num Lock...launched game and nothing..Num Lock obviously pauses the game but the Shift button does nothing.

 

Im glad I don't fly an A10 for instance where this setup would shine..flying ww2 birds doesn't require many keys to be mapped but its certainly annoying never being able to get this to work.

[JaMz]

Lads my previous post has probably been missed due to the 109 being introduced ..

 

But can anyone who has this setup tell me if this is the right way to do this?. Or am I missing something out?

[DD_bongodriver]

When you say shift button do you mean 'mode' switch? I don't recall a specific shift switch on the hardware, if so the mode switch itself cannot be assigned a keystroke, all it does is tell the profiler to use another set of defined keystrokes.

[frenchfly]

Hey mate,

 

Only just seen this.. Ok so what am I doing wrong because I can never seem to get this to work..

 

So this is what I have tried:

 

In the Logitech profiler I added a keystroke and even tried a command ( Num Lock Key)  to the Shift button on my joystick. I then launched game through the profiler via the Launcher.exe in this case CoD. I then mapped 'pause' in game to the button Num Lock...launched game and nothing..Num Lock obviously pauses the game but the Shift button does nothing.

 

Im glad I don't fly an A10 for instance where this setup would shine..flying ww2 birds doesn't require many keys to be mapped but its certainly annoying never being able to get this to work.

Hi fritzi

Make sure Il2.exe is tied to your Logitech game profile not launcher.exe, also make sure Logitech game profiler is running as administrator. Hope this helps as this is all I can think of that's causing your problem.

 

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[OBT-Psycho]

When you say shift button do you mean 'mode' switch? I don't recall a specific shift switch on the hardware, if so the mode switch itself cannot be assigned a keystroke, all it does is tell the profiler to use another set of defined keystrokes.

I think he meant the "pinkie" button on the stick, which can be use as some sort of enhancer, doubling all your commands.

[DD_bongodriver]

Ah yes I remember.

[DD_bongodriver]

I just realised, the profiler software could be used to reverse the toe brake axes.

[JaMz]

Hey guys thanks for the input... yes I mean the pinkie button (shift).. I even tried it with a totally different joystick button incase the shift was problematic and still nada...

[OBT-Psycho]

I think that if you want to use it as a direct input key, you should map it into the game directly.

There should be IIRC an option on the profiler to tell if you want to use is as a shift key or a direct input key, but I am not sure of that.

 

So go for the "direct in the game" option would be the easier way. taht's what I did so far, given that there is not so much thing but flying right now. I will put a nice profile together later, but this take a while to make it corrctly and time isn't on my side at the moment.

I just realised, the profiler software could be used to reverse the toe brake axes.

thanks for the info Bongo, these toe brakes for the 109 are pure maddness without ability to invert the axe! will take a look asap

[JaMz]

I think that if you want to use it as a direct input key, you should map it into the game directly.

There should be IIRC an option on the profiler to tell if you want to use is as a shift key or a direct input key, but I am not sure of that.

 

So go for the "direct in the game" option would be the easier way. taht's what I did so far, given that there is not so much thing but flying right now. I will put a nice profile together later, but this take a while to make it corrctly and time isn't on my side at the moment.

thanks for the info Bongo, these toe brakes for the 109 are pure maddness without ability to invert the axe! will take a look asap

 

Yes you can invert through the Logitech software...quite straightforward and allows you to use them as they should until a fix is put inplace..

 

Well I uninstalled and installed software and I'm able to use everything as I should be able to now running as an administrator so thanks for tips people..

 

As for BoS and the 'shift' button option I just set the pinkie switch as the 'left shift' button through the software so now in game I have a 'key modifier' so doubling up on commands is now possible, not that I need them right now   

[senseispcc]

I am sorry to report it is impossible to setup the throttle with a Logitech G940 !

 

I have tried everything, drivers, and firmware, reverse or not nothing change the situation no precision or dependability in the result of movements.

 

no problems in other games ROF or COD or IL1946.

 

Please do something I think I am not the only one or am I.?

 

In this state I cannot play the game!

[SeaW0lf]

Yes you can invert through the Logitech software...quite straightforward and allows you to use them as they should until a fix is put inplace..

 

Do you mean through the control panel and the calibration software (I don't have it set up now)? Because I didn't install any profile to not have incompatibilities with ROF. I use the G940 barebone. Did anyone report the toe break bug?

[OBT-Psycho]

yep, I do have the inverted toebrake, but as stated on this post, there is a quick workaround to overcome this issue.

 

Just select your rudder device on the profiler. Once there, you can click on the axis for left and right toe brake, and select "configuration" or something similar.

 

There you will find a tick box for "invert the axis" and you're good to go! it changes your life of Luftwaffe rookie then

[=LD=dhyran]

yep, I do have the inverted toebrake, but as stated on this post, there is a quick workaround to overcome this issue.

 

Just select your rudder device on the profiler. Once there, you can click on the axis for left and right toe brake, and select "configuration" or something similar.

 

There you will find a tick box for "invert the axis" and you're good to go! it changes your life of Luftwaffe rookie then

 

 

another g940 owner here, i am really happy with it but gor this issue here too. So i clicked inverted axis, but it seems it doesen't make any difference. Do i have to setup a profile for BoS to get it working?

[OBT-Psycho]

did you do it on the toe brake axis or the rudder axis? this fix works for the toe brakes, as long as we can't invert these axis ingame.

 

You don't have to set up a profile for BoS, as long as you mapped your axis into the game. Setup is mainly if you want to use the 3 modes provided by the G940, as well as the pinkie shift button function.

 

As I said, there is no point doing a complete setup right now as long as we don't have anything to do but flying in circles. Once we'll receive bombs and guns, it will be usefull, but not now (personal opinion inside)

[senseispcc]

I am sorry to say that with or without setup the throttle in BOS does in my case not work?

At mid-course it once go to max power and at other time to min power so that it is impossible to predict how it shall react, strange and horrible to flight with.

[OBT-Psycho]

you may find a solution in those "50% throttle" post on the forum. maybe you should also check the curves settings of your throttle axis in the game. You must have linear response on this axis, so sensitivity set to 0

[Scarecrow]

Bodnar mod G940 owner here.

Ive got my FFB spring strength set at 75% in the profiler and FFB at 100% in BOS and I'm liking the FFB very much! Haven't noticed any "stall shudder" yet but the spring effect is nicely done.

 

As others have said

 Mode switch is only recognised by the Logitech software not in (any) game

 For press and hold actions use an un-modified single "keystroke" in the profiler

 In the profiler "Commands" just play the recording of the key press you made (over and over again in a loop) and very occassionally the key release doesn't get played which is why its best just to use "keystroke"

 Any of the axes sensitivity can be changed in the profiler and each of the three "Modes" can have a separate sensitivity for that axis.

Edited November 28, 2013 by Scarecrow

[SYN_DerHesse70]

@scarecrow:

 

Try center spring force with 0% and FFB force 120%. You will never feel your aircraft with so many center spring force!!

[OBT-Psycho]

I have felt stall shudders, but they are oddly represented. You will first hear the air buffeting, and then if you continue further you will feel it just at the edge of the stall. I am not an IRL pilot so I can't tell if it's ok or not, but they're in the game

[Mastermariner]

I am sorry to report it is impossible to setup the throttle with a Logitech G940 !

 

I have tried everything, drivers, and firmware, reverse or not nothing change the situation no precision or dependability in the result of movements.

 

no problems in other games ROF or COD or IL1946.

 

Please do something I think I am not the only one or am I.?

 

In this state I cannot play the game!

I have exactly the same problem, the G940 is there 100 % during calibration but then the throttle disappear and in BoS only the joystick is functioning, impossible to find rudder pedals, throttle etc in the games setup.

What to do?

[HagarTheHorrible]

I have exactly the same problem, the G940 is there 100 % during calibration but then the throttle disappear and in BoS only the joystick is functioning, impossible to find rudder pedals, throttle etc in the games setup.

What to do?

 

 

Try disconnecting any extra peripherals, apart from the 940 and TrackIR, and work from there.  If I have too many gaming peripherals attached then things start acting up.   I have a 940 with Saitek rudder pedals, a Saitek throttle quadrant and TrackIR 5, however if I plug in my Belkin N52 then I start getting problems.

[senseispcc]

you may find a solution in those "50% throttle" post on the forum. maybe you should also check the curves settings of your throttle axis in the game. You must have linear response on this axis, so sensitivity set to 0

I shaal try this, thanks, once I have access to the game.

Try disconnecting any extra peripherals, apart from the 940 and TrackIR, and work from there.  If I have too many gaming peripherals attached then things start acting up.   I have a 940 with Saitek rudder pedals, a Saitek throttle quadrant and TrackIR 5, however if I plug in my Belkin N52 then I start getting problems.

I have a mouse the track-IR and my Logitech G940 connected this is all nothing else during a game cessions and I have problems !!!

[OBT-Psycho]

hi,

something has come up my mind this hazy morning.

 

How did you guys set up the thottle axis of this beauty? By this I mean that G940 comes with a dual throtte, and the games offer three different throttle settings : general engine throttle, engine 1 throttle and engine 2 throttle.

 

So it may be one source of confusion for this axis. If you setup the general throttle axis with the G940 throttle both connected, the soft may have some trouble understanding what's going on. 

 

There no evidence behind this thoughts, just reflexion about how to setup your gear, but in order to avoid any cause of problem on this sometimes complex piece of hardware, you'd maybe better setting separate axis for the different engines or using only one of the throttle lever while setting general engine throttle.