Good game to practice on

[WhiteYeti]

After getting some rudder pedals i was wondering what people are playing till BoS comes out so i can get used to the controls etc. The reason i ask is that i don't have alot of experience with the more realistic controls for this style of game. I was looking at purchasing IL-2 1946 to help get in the swing of things.

 

Cheers Whiteyeti

[FuriousMeow]

Well, if you want to try WWI for free (and THAT will teach you rudder pedal usage) - Rise of Flight is free to download and play with two planes (SPAD XIII and Albatros DVa).

 

www.riseofflight.com

 

The planes might be slower, but it will teach you how important rudder pedals are.

[II./JG27_Rich]

After getting some rudder pedals i was wondering what people are playing till BoS comes out so i can get used to the controls etc. The reason i ask is that i don't have alot of experience with the more realistic controls for this style of game. I was looking at purchasing IL-2 1946 to help get in the swing of things.

 

Cheers Whiteyeti

You can't go wrong with IL-2 1946.

[Wolger]

Try War Thunder in FRB mode only with full aircraft control. Great selection of planes, but need to grind to unlock higher tier planes but lower tier is good enough to practice basic acm skills like snap roll and etc. Best of all is it is totally f2p.

You've got a rudder and it's even better and easier than using stick twist.

[LG1.Farber]

RoF rudder has more roll in it than IL2 at least that is what I think.  You could get IL2 fb 46 quite cheap but you could probably get IL2CLoD even cheaper...  and some community patchs cough cough, atag.

[Tektolnes]

CloD + TF patch is the closest thing you'll get for some early WW2 practice and multiplayer dogfights. The flight models and cockpits in 1946 aren't up to snuff these days in my opinion but it does have a lot of content. ROF is well worth a look too if WW1 is your thing. DCS P51D is probably the best around currently for trying out a highly realistic WW2 prop plane flight model and CEM but it doesn't have a huge amount of WW2 content yet. If you become competent on the Mustang you'll transition into the BOS advanced flight model just fine as they should have similar characteristics.

[Mac_Messer]

Get Cliffs of Dover. It`s the closest thing and it`s pretty hard both to fly and shoot. If you make yourself competent in this game, you will most probably feel with BoS right at home.

[Alesia]

Try War Thunder in FRB mode only with full aircraft control. Great selection of planes, but need to grind to unlock higher tier planes but lower tier is good enough to practice basic acm skills like snap roll and etc. Best of all is it is totally f2p.

You've got a rudder and it's even better and easier than using stick twist.

 

Have to agree with this.  Still some stuff broken (A20G I'm looking at you).  The grind isn't all that bad if you play FRB or even drop a few $$ on a premium aircraft for the extra EXP/Silver earnings but it's free to play, easy to set up controls, and the graphics are pretty good.  Be sure to check out the Events part so you can get historical plane match ups as well as bonus earnings all the time.

[III/JG11_Tiger]

After getting some rudder pedals i was wondering what people are playing till BoS comes out so i can get used to the controls etc. The reason i ask is that i don't have alot of experience with the more realistic controls for this style of game. I was looking at purchasing IL-2 1946 to help get in the swing of things.

 

Cheers Whiteyeti

Rise of Flight is a great place if you want to test your pedals, they get a lot of use in those slow turning WW1 birds

[Tektolnes]

WT is probably the last thing you'd want to practice on in preparation for BOS. As BOS will ha e an advanced flight model you'd be starting from scratch and would probably have to unlearn a good few bad habits.

[senseispcc]

Cliff of Dover is for me the best (until Battle of Stalingrad for sure!). And with the TF mod 3.00 and 3.01 it is nearly complete and so beautiful.

 

You can modulate the difficulty of flying controls and the type of plane you fly. Rise of flight is also nice but the theme of the game is for me less attractive even if it is a very great game.

 

IL2 1946 is also a great choice but a step backwards in term of graphics due to the age of the game.

 

Thunder of War is a fun game for unrealistic air battles.

 

This are my opinions and are not by any means a universal one.

  

[HippyDruid]

Rise of Flight for sure! You will most certainly break in those pedals!!

[Dakpilot]

As far as practice with pedals I would say try ROF, simple aircraft but advanced FM and you will get lots of rudder practice. It is free to download, you will get an approximate idea of computer performance needed for BOS as it uses the same game engine (obviously not identical but enough to give you an idea) The GUI, graphics and control/input settings will be similar in BOS so when it is available you may have a slight head start. It comes with 2 free A/C to practice with and if you enjoy it you can add a couple(or as many as you want ) of extra fighters for about $6 each

 

Cheers Dakpilot

Edited October 4, 2013 by Dakpilot

[Panzerlang]

You can't go wrong with IL-2 1946.

 

Well you can, given that the AI, even on rookie mode, has the gunnery ability of every ace in WW2 rolled into one.

[LLv44_Mprhead]

Il-2:Cliffs of Dover + Team Fusio patches and/or Rise of Flight. CloD is 9,90€ at Steam I think, and RoF you get basic version for free.

[II./JG27_Rich]

Well you can, given that the AI, even on rookie mode, has the gunnery ability of every ace in WW2 rolled into one.

Well Siggi if he wants to get a little involed he can register on Spits VS 109s, get all of his patch info and get down to business on the hyperlobby. He should have done this years ago though because he really doesn't have much time to get the full enjoyment out of IL-2. Gunnery. Who thinks those American bombers are armed by Alien super beings?

Edited October 4, 2013 by II./JG27Richie

[Bearcat]

You can't go wrong with IL-2 1946.

I agree with this. Especially in terms of simplicity of patching, variety of aircraft and hassle free tweaking. It is more dated than CoD of RoF but it's FMs do a decent enough job of preparing you for use of rudders This is not to say that Cod and RoF are not good choices.. and actually RoF might also be a good choice because it is free and it is simpler FM as far as the actual virtual physics go. I suggest that you get all three, 46, CoD, and RoF any as all three are good products and have different things to offer. The AI in 46 is not as bad as it used to be if you set your enemies to rookies it average and your win men to ace or vetan you can actually survive an 8 vs 8 or even a 12 vs 12 or 16 vs 16 QM. One of the secrets to doing that in 46 is to hang back and let the AI get involved in the fight before you fully engage.

[Allons]

I would recommend RoF moneywise to have some cheap training, or CoD if u want something with eye candy and advanced handling. Forget 1946 as its not up to date graphicwise and will be outdated at least when BoS becomes operational. The extreme variety of flyable aircraft is of no use for u if all you want is to learn proper flying and dogfight technics.  The dicta Boelcke and basics of tactics is something you can learn at RoF just as fine as in CoD.

 

Best, Allons!

[leitmotiv]

Rise of Flight is safe bet, 2 free airplanes, not to complicated to play and when you see BoS you can be impressed with what you see in it and how it works.

 

I would not recomend to get IL-2 Clifs of Dover as its just to good, you have all in that game for good price and it runs good with TF patch on any PC, it will spoil you to mutch for BoS better not try it if you never played it, then youll have better expiriance with BoS.

 

My favorite is IL2-1946, but as its old game it's not gentle to look and FM/DM/CEM is old fashioned still good but no to standards of CloD. Other reson not to try it is that with mods you have the most various maps so you can play in almost all battles no mater how insignificant they were in wars, and with several 100s of airplanes from 1910-1970 all in one game (more then some arcade flying games), for low price. If you didnt ever try it dont try it, if you like loot of airplanes and maps it will spoil you to mutch for BoS.

 

Edited October 5, 2013 by Yaklover

[Panzerlang]

 One of the secrets to doing that in 46 is to hang back and let the AI get involved in the fight before you fully engage.

 

Are you sure about that? I was using the v4.12 and I got the distinct feeling the AI is coded to come after the human (me). I'm not saying every AI enemy fixated on me but even in combos where the AI enemy was outnumbered I'd invariably find one or two chasing me instead of mixing it up with friendly AI.

 

Or it was just paranoia.

[leitmotiv]

same with me, always go for Human first, if frendly AIs are also close to me, but if they are few 100m closer to enemy AI they fight AI on AI

Edited October 5, 2013 by Yaklover

[Matt]

It wouldn't hurt to try RoF. You can also get familiar with setting up the controls for BoS then (which most likely will use the identical or a very similar setup).

 

But of course, you can also make good use of the rudder in IL-2 '46. But i wouldn't fly it anymore without HSFX or UP.

[Sokol1]

After getting some rudder pedals i was wondering what people are playing till BoS comes out so i can get used to the controls etc. The reason i ask is that i don't have alot of experience with the more realistic controls for this style of game.

 

Get CLoD (cheap) and fly only with G-50,  complete Engine Management lessons,  and if you get kills with him means that you in the way to be an Ace.

 

Sokol1

 

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[Jaws2002]

Get Cliffs of Dover +TF patch. It's really cheap now and you won't get that kind of ww2 immersion anywhere right now.

[76SQN-FatherTed]

I would say IL2 46 would be the way to go if you want to practice for BoS.  This is because, unlike CloD or RoF (especially RoF) you can actually fly the planes that will be in BoS.  OK, so the FMs won't be the same, but they should be roughly equivalent, and the differences between the types will be similar.

[dburne]

I was flying ROF quite a bit, and now more recently, mainly because I really wanted some WWII action , have really gotten into Cliffs of Dover with the TF patch -  and am having a blast. Full realism and CEM for the first time for me.

[Recon]

Cliffs of Dover Team Fusion 3.01 (and soon an impressive 4.0) is fantastic

 

learn more:

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/index.php

 

not only can you try your pedals out, you'll find it to be a great time especially the online play - you might find yourself sticking around more...  

[Volkoff]

Rise of Flight.  MJ

[WhiteYeti]

Sorry for the late reply lol i ended up getting IL-2 1946 and CoD plus RoF enjoying CoD so far and RoF from what i have played so far which isn't alot due to RL commitments.

Thanks for the suggestions people.

 

Cheers Whiteyeti.

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

i shoulda got 1946, but rather than fork over however much it is i redownloaded CLoD. either way a fully accurate sim like the IL2 series is the way to go

[Trooper117]

Il2 1946, still flying this game on a regular basis... some fantastic user campaigns and content available, plus the latest version patched up to 4.12.2 is just superb, add one of the mods like HSFX 7 and you are really cooking.

The amount of aircraft to practice on is overwhelming

[Primus_71]

I really enjoy the AI in 4.12.1. It is a huge leap from 4.10. They are maybe a bit too accurate with their shooting, but it is good motivation to develop the essential habit of always checking 6. 

 

Being mainly an offline player, I'm looking forward to seeing BoS AI

Edited December 3, 2013 by [-]Primus_71

[Tr.Gr.186_Schutze]

Obviously not ROF since its WW1 and abilities and performances of most of the aicrafts its quite different then of those in BOS. If you want go with il-2 1946 or CLOD with modpack from team fusion.

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

Obviously not ROF since its WW1 and abilities and performances of most of the aicrafts its quite different then of those in BOS. If you want go with il-2 1946 or CLOD with modpack from team fusion.

the only major difference between RoF and ANY ww2 sim is more indepth engine management and more pronounced feedback on rudder inputs. roF would be a solid start

[Karost]

10 years in IL2  I only use joystick rudder

now I  got  new  rudder pedals  which made me have to re-learn all stuff.

[imho]

for  low-speed with FM practice ROF is good  but  hi-speed  FM practice with trim management  I like IL2  (v.4.12-2)  and Cliffs of Dover +TF is interesting.

for  weapon skill development, rudder pedals is very good for pan left - right to adjust firing solution.  

- ROF with machine gun look good for basic shooting AI.

- IL2 , CoD good for  20mm heavy trajectory and HE impact when need to improve effective skill for  hi-speed drive ( + 400 km/h ) to make one pass one kill

[Cybermat47]

Rise of Flight for the rudder, CloD with TF 4.0 for everything else.

[dkoor]

Practice gunnery.

 

A lot. That's what separates fighter pilot from flying victim  .

[ACG_Kraut]

I've been flying CLoD with TF mod quite a bit recently.

I too just got rudder pedals, so I'm doing my training mostly in RoF and CLoD, they are very similar to how BoS feels.

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

I've been flying CLoD with TF mod quite a bit recently.

I too just got rudder pedals, so I'm doing my training mostly in RoF and CLoD, they are very similar to how BoS feels.

ditto, plus i have been able to get a hang of engine management, i hope it is an indepth in this one.

 

as a side note i have gone a whole 4 flights without blowing the bejesus outta my own engine.

 

baby steps

[Trident_109]

I re-purchased IL2 1946 on Sunday night for $5.99. It comes patched to version 4.12.2. Steam has CoD for $19.99. I'm sure you could get it cheaper on Amazon and other locales but I'd just thought I'd throw out the IL2 1946 price.