a little game: guess what this is!

[Sternjaeger]

a little hint for you: it's Russian ;-)

[LukeFF]

Soviet gunsight, likely made at Kharkov or Berdsk.

[Sternjaeger]

correct! :-) 

 

PBP-1 (or RVR-1) from 1942, from my private collection, used either on a Pe-2 or on an IL-2 :-)

 

More pics to follow tomorrow!

[LukeFF]

Cool! Looking forward to seeing those pics! 

 

(I have an original M91/30 PU sniper, so that's how I knew about the markings ).

[Sternjaeger]

 here it is, probably my best bargain ever, since I paid €1 for it!!

 

It will need some cleaning and a base with light to be properly displayed, but the reticle is quite visible anyway.

 

What sort of scope you have on your 91/30?

[LukeFF]

That is really neat! 

 

My scope is a 3.5x PU scope, made at Progress (in Leningrad), fitted to a 1942 Izhevsk rifle. That makes it a first-year production PU sniper.

 

 

[Sternjaeger]

a B-serial is between 1943 and 1944, but it's still wartime and absolutely gorgeous! :-) 

 

How's the bore?

Edited October 4, 2013 by Sternjaeger

[LukeFF]

a B-serial is between 1943 and 1944, but it's still wartime and absolutely gorgeous! :-) 

 

How's the bore?

 

Thanks! I wasn't sure about the date of production of the scope.

 

The bore is great - I can shoot 1-inch groups with it when the winds are calm.

[Sternjaeger]

I have a link somewhere, please bear with me and I'll send it to you.

 

What ammo you use?

[LukeFF]

I use a variety of 1970s surplus - mainly 147-grain Bulgarian and Russian stuff. 

[Sternjaeger]

corrosive stuff I guess? 

 

Can't find what I was looking for, but this should be good as well
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?268991-PU-sniper-scopes-1940-1945

[LukeFF]

Yep, that link is very, very good. 

 

The ammo is corrosive, yes, but a simple bit of cleaning takes care of that just fine. Shooting corrosive ammo doesn't bother me at all.

[Uufflakke]

@LukeFF:

 

Your rifle

 

 

 

 

looks similar to the one I have:

 

 

 

 

 

But the main difference is... I can't use it.

They made it unusable, otherwise it is not allowed to sell it.

I bought this rifle on a flee market in Amsterdam for € 40,-.

And now I realize it happened 30 years ago already.

[LukeFF]

'tis a shame! Mosins modified by Finland (which yours is) are highly desirable here in the U.S.

[Sternjaeger]

that looks like a 91 model, whilst Luke's a 91/30.

 

If you don't have this, this is a cool little poster to have! 

 

[Uufflakke]

@Sternjäger and LukeFF,

Thanks for the info on the Mosin Nagant I have. For a non specialist like me nine out of ten look very similar on the chart above, hard to recognize the differences.

If it really is a Finnish modified Mosin Nagant then I don't understand the Cyrillic text + 1917(Russian Revolution) on it. Taking in consideration the Winter War and the Continuation War.

 

When I have some time left over I should do some investigation on the web to find out some more.

[Sternjaeger]

I honestly believe it is Russian 91 model, not Finnish, but then again they were sold in massive stocks, so surely some rifles made for Russia ended up in the stock.. one thing is for sure mate, that thing is in need of some love and care! ;-) 

[LukeFF]

Take a look here at Number 37: http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRef01.htm. Two things on the rifle pictured above lead me to believe it was in Finnish hands at one point: the type of sling and sling attachment points, and the serial number is lined out on the bolt handle. It was very common for the Finns to take the receiver and barrel off old, battle-damaged Mosin rifles and reuse them with a new stock. In addition, those "wire hanger" sling attachments are a feature very often seen on Finn-reworked rifles.