II./ZG26-dada Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 @Winger, we'll find the issue. But I have no time at the moment. I have to go to the army until saturday morning. @Vex, it should be clear, that we want to talk if something is not the way you want it. It Is our fist time we are doing something like this and we had no idea, what we are confronted with. So we thout about some rule and wrote them. But they are mostly discussable. There arn't written in Stone. And if the skins are serious and no trollig, i think we'll allow them. So, dont cry, we arent some Dictators. We want to do it whit the community, not withou it. And if anybody find some issues or if he has some wishes, dont be afraid to tell them us.
Yakdriver Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 While you can get plenty of skins with the Swastika on them, the base versions of all of Classics-Hangar's planes come without any tail markings. I should know, I have them all. Other Teens love Popstars... i was a BIG fan of Mathias, way back then. He has No material with Swastikas available whatsoever? not even "under the counter" or via PM? That would be very curious indeed - the man is NUTS when it comes to get things right... But if that is his (official?) solution, then there is not much room for movement i guess.
SR-F_Winger Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 @Winger, we'll find the issue. But I have no time at the moment. I have to go to the army until saturday morning. @Vex, it should be clear, that we want to talk if something is not the way you want it. It Is our fist time we are doing something like this and we had no idea, what we are confronted with. So we thout about some rule and wrote them. But they are mostly discussable. There arn't written in Stone. And if the skins are serious and no trollig, i think we'll allow them. So, dont cry, we arent some Dictators. We want to do it whit the community, not withou it. And if anybody find some issues or if he has some wishes, dont be afraid to tell them us. No hurry. Ill try using another browser. All fine. Thanks for the help!
WWChunk Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Other Teens love Popstars... i was a BIG fan of Mathias, way back then. He has No material with Swastikas available whatsoever? not even "under the counter" or via PM? That would be very curious indeed - the man is NUTS when it comes to get things right... But if that is his (official?) solution, then there is not much room for movement i guess. The aircraft that came with the packages he released did not have swastikas on them, but the guy that did the textures for the aircraft had a tool that added them. It allowed Mathias to be in compliance with German laws, but give his customers the option to add the markings to the default skins...something I with was available with the default skins with BoS. Edited March 9, 2015 by WWChunk
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Hey, let me say a few words: as operator of this page I have to make sure that they provide for our country and those of game. this country is the open handling of the swastika very difficult which can cause many problems. But I will seek the dialogue with the pacemakers of the simulation and some other people. I think we will find a good solution! Give us a chance and upload your skins please! But it really is existentially is to see a swastika on the skins? Lucky Edit: The side will be translated to russian language asap. Edited March 9, 2015 by 1./JG77LuckySmile
6./ZG26_Gielow Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 Where I should install the skins sinc program ??? Can you make a guide showing how to install and how it works ??? Can I upload a swastika skin if I hide the symbol on the site picture ??? I just upload my FW190 skin. I will be working on my others skins soon. I personally don't like phantasy skins like we have now available. Only =FI=Rambo skins are historical so far Problaby I will download only historical like skins. It is war guys, not carnival hehehe
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 Where I should install the skins sinc program ??? Can you make a guide showing how to install and how it works ??? Can I upload a swastika skin if I hide the symbol on the site picture ??? I just upload my FW190 skin. I will be working on my others skins soon. I personally don't like phantasy skins like we have now available. Only =FI=Rambo skins are historical so far Problaby I will download only historical like skins. It is war guys, not carnival hehehe Just extract the program and start it. The folder does not matter. i will make a how to this days, it will be find in the download section. If you dont like the skins u can download the skins manualy an put them into the folders. i make for this szenario a how to, too. Lucky
BlackHellHound1 Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) in one of your reply's you say that swastika's are not allowed, yet there is a skin with swastika's. I would like to know clearly whether they are allowed or not. And whether it is allowed to upload a skin with a swastika but with a picture without. (of course the plane title and description would have to include the fact that there are swastika's in the skin.) Depending on your answer I will or wont upload my skins! BlackHellHound1 Edited March 9, 2015 by =[Coffin]=BlackHellHound1
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Hey, you can upload the skins with swastikas but make the screenshots unrecognizable (use paint or so) This is my personal request to you, because I can otherwise be held liable personally . I think this is a good compromise. As soon as I have news in the legal situation , I 'll tell you right away. Lucky Edit: said screenshot is altered Edited March 9, 2015 by 1./JG77LuckySmile 1
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 I added a how to at the Skin-Sync download section.
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 9, 2015 Author Posted March 9, 2015 In the future you will be able to distinguish in the program between historical and normal skins. In the upload section u have to make a tick if the skin is historical. Waht do you mean about this feature?
TG-55Panthercules Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) I was going to try to upload some skins and then try using the synch tool, but I'm confused about the process for uploading. I couldn't find anything on the site about how to do that, and nothing about the size/format of the preview picture (other than that it couldn't exceed something like 5MB) - is that something you only get access to after you have registered for the site? [EDIT - aha - I see it is something that becomes visible after registration - I still don't see anything about what the preview picture is supposed to be (size/shape/pixels etc.) but I'm going to give it a try and see what happens.] Edited March 10, 2015 by TG-55Panthercules
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 I was going to try to upload some skins and then try using the synch tool, but I'm confused about the process for uploading. I couldn't find anything on the site about how to do that, and nothing about the size/format of the preview picture (other than that it couldn't exceed something like 5MB) - is that something you only get access to after you have registered for the site? [EDIT - aha - I see it is something that becomes visible after registration - I still don't see anything about what the preview picture is supposed to be (size/shape/pixels etc.) but I'm going to give it a try and see what happens.] The image should only be in 16: 9 format to be. Lucky
79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 This is a wonderful addition to the hobby! Thanks to the site admins for providing such a service to us! I have a small suggestion: When the number of skins on the site start to increase, would it be possible to group them by categories like "historical", "semi-historical" and "just for fun" or a similar grading? This was done on old IL2.skins, and was a very practical tool.
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 10, 2015 Author Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) When the number of skins on the site start to increase, would it be possible to group them by categories like "historical", "semi-historical" and "just for fun" or a similar grading? This was done on old IL2.skins, and was a very practical tool. Yes, we are working to change that. Since we have finished the historical filter we will use normal sides with 28 skins per side. But it will not happen until its weekend^^ Lucky Edit: Our ToDo-List is exploding at the moment :D Edited March 10, 2015 by 1./JG77LuckySmile
79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Yes, we are working to change that.
[TWB]80hd Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 wow we were just talking about this on the TWB TS server. Great work!!! Mods PLEASE STICKY THIS, DO NOT RELEGATE IT TO THE SUB FORUMS!! Agreed, but... alas...
6./ZG26_Gielow Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 My FW190 skin is available on line !!! Great work
BlackHellHound1 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I have just uploaded all my skins to the site. Due to how the site works I had to choose what German skins to upload: upload the version with or without swastika. I have uploaded the version WITH swastika. I made sure to use pictures without swastika's because I don't want to break any rules or laws. I have also uploaded all my Russian skins. Of course you can still download all my skins via the original links as found in my museum. (including the german skins without swastika) BlackHellHound1 1
[TWB]80hd Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 We're all stuck downloading this: Downloading "Bf 109F-2 Hans von Hahn", "JG3_Bf109F2_Hans_von_Hahn.dds" (1/21) Any ideas?
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 I had to delete this skin, black please reupload the skin. Should be working now.
BlackHellHound1 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I had to delete this skin, black please reupload the skin. Should be working now. Done, Should work fine now. BlackHellHound1
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 Yes, its working now, thank you for youre skins!
II./ZG26-dada Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 In my opinion, there is no reason to group them by historical/nonhistorical. It determinds the idea of the project. The idea was to sync all skins with everybode. Because BoS cant do that. You dont have to use every skin you have in the folder. I wont force you, i just want to discuss. Whsts the reason you want that?
TG-55Panthercules Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) In my opinion, there is no reason to group them by historical/nonhistorical. It determinds the idea of the project. The idea was to sync all skins with everybode. Because BoS cant do that. You dont have to use every skin you have in the folder. I wont force you, i just want to discuss. Whsts the reason you want that? One of the problems that we face in dealing with skins in both RoF and BoS is trying to come up with an easy way for a player to install only those skins they they want to see in their game, so they won't have to see other players flying around in skins that don't seem to be at least semi-historically appropriate in general look and feel. For example, if somebody has done a "Hello Kitty" skin and happens to be flying on the same MP server that I am, I don't really want to see that Hello Kitty skin in my game - I don't care if he sees himself in that skin, but I'd rather see him in the default, historical-looking skin. However, if his skin is on your site and I use the current version of your tool to synch all the skins, then I'm going to see his Hello Kitty skin unless I take the time to go through all the downloaded skins on my PC and figure out which one is the "bad" one and manually delete it. And then it gets worse, because the next time I synch up using your tool to get any new skins it's going to put that old Hello Kitty skin back on my PC and I'm going to have to remember to manually delete it again. Thus, while the ability to get skins via your site/tool could be helpful, it would be a lot more attractive if the skins were grouped into at least 3 basic categories - historical, semi-historical fictional, and non-historical fictional, and if the synching tool could be configured so the player could choose which of the three categories they wanted to synch. Obviously, there would be a degree of subjective judgment that would have to be exercised in classifying skins between the last two categories (the truly historical category should be easy, but deciding what is "semi-historical" versus "non-historical" is a judgment call), but at least it would be better than not having any sort of classification methodology. Another thing that would be really handy would be the ability to point your synch tool to a temp folder other than your actual BoS installation - that way, the player could bring all the skins down into a temp location and be able to weed out things they don't want and create a JSGME-ready mod package to install only those skins they want to into their actual BoS installation. I do that a lot with the skin packs in RoF, and it works great, but one reason it's so easy is that you can point the RoF skin pack installers to any folder you want to - it doesn't have to be your actual RoF installation. Another thing that would be really helpful is if someone could build a skin management tool like Laser did for RoF, that would let you browse though all the BoS skins you have and weed out ones you don't want to use, and then put the ones you do want into groups or mod packs to help you manage which ones you have installed and which ones you don't. That's not a big deal now with as few skins as we have so far for BoS, but it's a big help with the several thousand skins we have for RoF at this point. Edited March 13, 2015 by TG-55Panthercules 1
II./ZG26-dada Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Okey, good reason. I think i'll change that. The only problem is, im the only programmer and im until january 2016 in the army an im just able to code from saturday midday until sunday evenig. And im not every time in the mood to do code. If there are some simple bugfixes or features, thats no problem. But a whole management-tool, that'll take a lot of time because i cant code during the week. So, if there is somebody who's able to do that, You could help^^ I would realy enjoy doing that, but yeah, you know...
BlackHellHound1 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 One of the problems that we face in dealing with skins in both RoF and BoS is trying to come up with an easy way for a player to install only those skins they they want to see in their game, so they won't have to see other players flying around in skins that don't seem to be at least semi-historically appropriate in general look and feel. For example, if somebody has done a "Hello Kitty" skin and happens to be flying on the same MP server that I am, I don't really want to see that Hello Kitty skin in my game - I don't care if he sees himself in that skin, but I'd rather see him in the default, historical-looking skin. However, if his skin is on your site and I use the current version of your tool to synch all the skins, then I'm going to see his Hello Kitty skin unless I take the time to go through all the downloaded skins on my PC and figure out which one is the "bad" one and manually delete it. And then it gets worse, because the next time I synch up using your tool to get any new skins it's going to put that old Hello Kitty skin back on my PC and I'm going to have to remember to manually delete it again. Thus, while the ability to get skins via your site/tool could be helpful, it would be a lot more attractive if the skins were grouped into at least 3 basic categories - historical, semi-historical fictional, and non-historical fictional, and if the synching tool could be configured so the player could choose which of the three categories they wanted to synch. Obviously, there would be a degree of subjective judgment that would have to be exercised in classifying skins between the last two categories (the truly historical category should be easy, but deciding what is "semi-historical" versus "non-historical" is a judgment call), but at least it would be better than not having any sort of classification methodology. Another thing that would be really handy would be the ability to point your synch tool to a temp folder other than your actual BoS installation - that way, the player could bring all the skins down into a temp location and be able to weed out things they don't want and create a JSGME-ready mod package to install only those skins they want to into their actual BoS installation. I do that a lot with the skin packs in RoF, and it works great, but one reason it's so easy is that you can point the RoF skin pack installers to any folder you want to - it doesn't have to be your actual RoF installation. Another thing that would be really helpful is if someone could build a skin management tool like Laser did for RoF, that would let you browse though all the BoS skins you have and weed out ones you don't want to use, and then put the ones you do want into groups or mod packs to help you manage which ones you have installed and which ones you don't. That's not a big deal now with as few skins as we have so far for BoS, but it's a big help with the several thousand skins we have for RoF at this point. Heey Panther and dada, I had made a few suggestions on how to improve the site in a personal message to il2skins-LuckySmile. I think it is a good idea to bring forth one of these points: Connect the SkinSync to the site (for instance by loging in into the SkinSync with the same account) and then allow the player to select what skins they want (on the website) so that only those skins are downloaded. At the moment, all skins are downloaded. (some people, like me, don't want all the skins)I too do not like that the "SkinSync" would download all the skins. I prefer historically accurate skins (as is apparent in my own work). Just like Panther; I do not mind if someone as a non-historical skin as long as I don't have to look at it. If I see someone with a custom historical skin it makes me happy. It gives me the feeling they appreciate the game but more importantly: It makes me believe they care about what happened in WWII. (Of course this is my opinion!) Because the SkinSync tool installes all skins I decided to remove the SkinSync from my PC (and the fact that it would conflict with my own skins already on my PC). Obviously there are many ways to allow players to choose what skins they want. After doing some thinking I came up with this solution. I understand it not easy to script but once in place it will probably make many people happy. With this system it would also be easy to separate the skins into some big groups like "Historical" "Semi-Historical Fictional" and "Fictional". I would really appreciate it if a function or this sort could be implemented. I had also made an other suggestion regarding the programming. You have most likely seen taleks' post "skin downloader tool". I think it would a good idea to seek contact with him. The "skin downloader tool" he made had a similar goal and worked in much the same way. If the two of you would agree to work with together, the outcome will be amazing. BlackHellHound1
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Thank you for this detailed proposals Phanthercules and BlackHellHound. I think that we can implement some of your suggestions, but unfortunately it will take a little longer. But be sure we want to make it as good as we can. For further suggestions we are always grateful for your skins as well ;-) More skins we'd love too. The offer should reach as many pilots in best quality. The Program: I do not think we will achieve it with login, rather with boxes must be selected before the download. But the way we have to discuss and try it, it will eventually be as simple as possible. Greets, Lucky Edited March 13, 2015 by il2skins-LuckySmile
Yakdriver Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 The aircraft that came with the packages he released did not have swastikas on them, but the guy that did the textures for the aircraft had a tool that added them. It allowed Mathias to be in compliance with German laws, but give his customers the option to add the markings to the default skins...something I with was available with the default skins with BoS. That would possibly Allessandro Biaggi... very consistent in his style damn i havent sent my skins... busy lookig for a job and messing with CUP
216th_Peterla Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Hi all, I just uploaded a couple of my skins but I can't proceed with more uploads. A message stating "You don't have permission to see this page" appears when I click on the upload button. Is there any limit in the uploads of a user? Is maybe a timing limit? Thanks for the effort to create this page. Regards, Peter
1.JG77LuckySmile Posted March 15, 2015 Author Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Hi all, I just uploaded a couple of my skins but I can't proceed with more uploads. A message stating "You don't have permission to see this page" appears when I click on the upload button. Is there any limit in the uploads of a user? Is maybe a timing limit? Thanks for the effort to create this page. Regards, Peter Hey Peter, i think we have a coockie problem. Login and try it again, should be working. We dont have any limit on the page. Thank you for the nice skins! Lucky Edit: The upload ist locked @ the moment, so it will be available in some hours. Edited March 15, 2015 by il2skins-LuckySmile 1
II./ZG26-dada Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Hi all, I just uploaded a couple of my skins but I can't proceed with more uploads. A message stating "You don't have permission to see this page" appears when I click on the upload button. Is there any limit in the uploads of a user? Is maybe a timing limit? Thanks for the effort to create this page. Regards, Peter I locked this page temporarly because im workin on it. But there's a message on the home-page that i'm working on it... You are now able to upload... Edited March 15, 2015 by II./ZG26-dada 1
216th_Peterla Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 I locked this page temporarly because im workin on it. But there's a message on the home-page that i'm working on it... You are now able to upload... Thanks for the info Lucky and Dada. It works again. Uploading more stuff.
SR-F_Winger Posted June 21, 2015 Posted June 21, 2015 (edited) OK, now after a while i decided to try again. Still same error. No matter the browser. I tried Firefox and internetexplorer. Nothing works. Dunno maybe someone can upload them for me? Descripotion simply like that: "planename" Hawktheme by Winger (Wintervariant or Standardvariant) https://www.dropbox.com/s/13vcufwghy4dwv4/Skins_by_Winger.rar?dl=0 There are only 2 per plane and only the german ones. Edited June 21, 2015 by VSG1_Winger
SR-F_Winger Posted June 23, 2015 Posted June 23, 2015 OK, i now uploaded from my work-PC. Its located where i work and from there it was no problem to upload the skins. So you can consider the issue solved. Thanks for hosting that site!
LoupVert Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 LuckySmile, do you plan to add BoM's birds to your planelist?
Panezz Posted October 10, 2015 Posted October 10, 2015 Hi, i like il2skins but i think it might be better if to distinguish between history and fictional skins. cheers 1
SR-F_Winger Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Hi, skinsync doesnt sync the skins for me. Only keeps saying "Starting Download". And progressbar rests at 100%. But no skin gets synced. Any clues?
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